Great article that came out a few months ago in Ford Muscle. It even has words of wisdom from our friends Vern Estes and Bob Gaines. As I was reading it counting down to the number one most anticipated lost Ford treasure, I was shocked to see Jim Morrison's 'Blue Lady' at number two. Then I saw what they picked for number one and I kinda have to agree.
What is the story with the lost Hertz prototype? When was it last seen?
https://www.fordmuscle.com/features/mustang-finding-next-holy-grail/
Can I answer in a week?
;)
The '69 "LID" Boss 429 has to be on the list.
Randy, I think at least the drivetrain is known to exist
More suspense from Coralsnake!!!!
A "couple" of those are rumored to have been made , but only one Mustang. Ron Butler of Shelby American drove it in '69 and said it was scary as hell! A friend of mine ( rip) was riding shotgun and agreed.
Randy
I think MrP told me that or I was drinking again....
Quote from: gt350hr on August 09, 2018, 01:50:07 PM
The '69 "LID" Boss 429 has to be on the list.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/news/1505-a-mid-engine-boss-429-mustang-yes-its-true/
Good list for sure!
I'd have to say (for me) #2 should be #1. BTW - Bret: don't you have some strong leads on where that car may be?
http://www.capecodmustang.com/morrison.php
Also, I'm surprised they didn't have the 1969 Playboy Pink Shelby GT500 that was owned by Playmate of the Year Connie Kreski...
I predict there will be room on the list soon
Just to keep the record straight. Car number 5 on their list is the "1966 Shelby Hertz GT350 Prototype." They describe that car as "'65 Shelby, car #48." That might lead one to think it must be SFM5S048. Not true. It's SFM6S048. They should have written, "'66 Shelby #48." Yes, it started life as a 1965 chassis from San Jose, but was built into a 1966 GT350, hence its status as a carryover.
Steve
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 09, 2018, 06:02:40 PM
I predict there will be room on the list soon
So we gotta wait a week to find out which car on the list is now know?
You're so cruel :'(
QSS
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on August 10, 2018, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 09, 2018, 06:02:40 PM
I predict there will be room on the list soon
So we gotta wait a week to find out which car on the list is now know?
You're so cruel :'(
QSS
Who said it's a car? Pete might be referring to number 1, the lost 1964-1966 data.
5R529....missing since what, 1966?
If not Morrisons 67 how about the 65 prototype coupe used to prove concept of the 65 GT350. It was before all of them.
Or the fastback with red interior and Monza gas cap on the top of the rear fender.
I am pretty sure I spoke to the author of the article.
Regardless, its just a couple of days....and the fun begins!
Careful, someone will start doing a Morrison Continuation Series, the '67 JM500. ::)
All this Mustang hoopla is being announced around the time of the garage sale at George Barris' - what was found in the rafters there? Wreckage of the Morrison car? The Sonny & Cher Mustangs? I know the Cobra powered Munster cars will be there for display only.
Nobody could ruin a car like George Barris could. :P
I seen & have photos of the boss 429 LID dolly in detroit back 25 years ago after a guy found it in a ford storage place & had it in his back yard but cant find his ph # or my photos as i sent them to somebody to do a story back in the mid 90s & never got them back.
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 10, 2018, 05:39:13 PM
I am pretty sure I spoke to the author of the article.
Regardless, its just a couple of days....and the fun begins!
Are we there yet?
Before the week ends....
You're killing us Pete. :o
Unfortunately, its not my decision and I wish to respect the owner's wishes....it will be worth the wait.
I too am sworn to secrecy but I will say it is a 196? for sure. I guarantee that!
Quote from: 2112 on August 10, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Nobody could ruin a car like George Barris could. :P
...i would say the Chip Fooseball on the Looseball is running a very close 2nd place. With the Gas Flunky's in hot pursuit placing third....
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 13, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
Before the week ends....
Work week or calendar week? ;)
Quote from: Bossssssss on August 13, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
...i would say the Chip Fooseball on the Looseball is running a very close 2nd place. With the Gas Flunky's in hot pursuit placing third....
Foose uses buckets of bondo and fake fur?
Yeah I don't like anything over 15" diameter wheels on 60's muscle, but when I saw his '65 Impala, the "Imposter", I will unabashedly refer to Foose as the greatest American Custom car builder to date.
Period.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/03/10/chip-foose-designed-1965-chevy-impala-takes-2015-ridler-award/?refer=musweekly
You should watch the video, it proves you actually can polish a turd.
I am starting to think that if It is indeed Mr. MoJo Risen's car, we will see a national news release with Kevin Marti first.
Just think how I feel, I have been trying not to tell anyone for months.....
Coincidence?
https://carbuzz.com/news/ford-will-unveil-a-mystery-new-vehicle-this-friday-at-woodward
Maybe it will be a Nightmist/parchment 2019 GT500 along side of the Morrison car?
Quote from: 2112 on August 15, 2018, 02:58:28 AM
Coincidence?
https://carbuzz.com/news/ford-will-unveil-a-mystery-new-vehicle-this-friday-at-woodward
Maybe it will be a Nightmist/parchment 2019 GT500 along side of the Morrison car?
I've got it! I just didn't realize Pete was such a Charlie's Angels fan.
http://phscollectorcarworld.blogspot.com/2013/01/lost-star-cars-what-happened-to-jill.html
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 13, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
Before the week ends....
Careful Pete, we've kept silent this long. Just a little longer......
Quote from: TLea on August 15, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
Careful Pete, we've kept silent this long. Just a little longer......
Don't want to be "That Guy" ::)
We're all starting to feel like we've been left out of the cool kids clique in high school. ( something I'm quite used to). :(
But I will drop this for the rest of us not in the know. He who shall not be named on the forum (owner of 139), did not tell me anything except that he was invited to attend the festivities in Detroit this weekend. Hmmm
Where's Eric ( car 100) btw?
It's Friday, well at least it is here in OZ.
Can you say yet, are we there yet, huh, huh.....
😜😜😎
Come on now, its not Friday yet.....
It would seem to be something very big for the Shelby world, and I'm pretty excited. Word is it will be unveiled at Woodward, and there will be folks on the stage who don't have any idea what it is. I'm glad to see our 'experts' were consulted to 'validate it'. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
We'll all have to have a bit more patience as everyone involved was sworn to secrecy. We can all respect that.
Of course being that I'm a relative no one, and I wasn't asked to swear a blood oath, I can start a 'which car do you think it is ' poll. All none 'Big Dogs' can participate. Be warned that the legal team for Ford maybe monitoring this forum. :o
Take a guess. Is it:
A). Edsel Ford's long lost fastback? A very cool car, but not much reason for the Shelby honchos to be involved.
B). Jim Morrison's Blue Lady? Everyone including myself has been on the look out for this 67 GT500 nightmist/parchment wonder. Start downloading your MP3 of 'Light My Fire' before the Apple site crashes if this is true.
C). 1967 GT350 (car 176)? This is a long shot. This is the holy grail of early small blocks to guys like me. It's the prototype GT350 seen in the promotional ads completed along with Lowell Otter's prototype GT500 V738-2 . Long thought to have been crushed. Maybe.
D). Lil Red, car no. 131? Car's 139, 100 and this car (131) were all sister cars in a sense. First and only Convertible, first regular production GT500 fastback and only notchback. Important to both the 67 and 68 fans. Might explain Pete's involvement. Odds are good it's this.
Hurray up and place your bets. I hear Vegas will be taking odds.
Every time I think I've figured these things out a new surprise appears around the turn.
I just found this new post on Brain's website about #0176.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/shelbyresearch/f7ixr2Zz6mY
It's an exciting time for all of us if this is indeed Shelby related and not just about some cool Mustangs. I can't wait to see what's revealed!
When is this reveal?
Where can we see it?
WE WANT LOTS OF PICTURES....PLLEEAASSEE!!!!!!
I'll guess C or D, (time reveals all)
Quote from: BGlover67 on August 15, 2018, 05:37:49 PM
We're all starting to feel like we've been left out of the cool kids clique in high school. ( something I'm quite used to). :(
But I will drop this for the rest of us not in the know. He who shall not be named on the forum (owner of 139), did not tell me anything except that he was invited to attend the festivities in Detroit this weekend. Hmmm
Where's Eric ( car 100) btw?
Hello Brian,
I just now found this thread. I had not heard about this big reveal tomorrow. I hope it is something really cool like 0131!!! BTW, 0100 and I are still in Colorado.
Thanks,
Eric
Eric,
Your find of #0100, the FIRST production GT500, will always be a BIG deal. That was and still is such a amazing find!
It gives us hopes the other missing cars will one day be found. Hopefully sooner than later.
If the reveal is Jim Morrisons' Blue lady, that opens up a whole different type of interest level, much like the "real" Bullitt.
(Hey Brian G, isn't Jimmy's music way before your time. I guess no one cares much about the Red Rocket / Sammy Hagar's '67 GT500, from our Van Halen generation)
Quote from: Richstang on August 16, 2018, 05:32:50 PM
Every time I think I've figured these things out a new surprise appears around the turn.
I just found this new post on Brain's website about #0176.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/shelbyresearch/f7ixr2Zz6mY
It's an exciting time for all of us if this is indeed Shelby related and not just about some cool Mustangs. I can't wait to see what's revealed!
When is this reveal?
Where can we see it?
WE WANT LOTS OF PICTURES....PLLEEAASSEE!!!!!!
Included in Brian's post is info which may not be fully accurate as it has to do with identifying a car by its rear valance compared to other Shelby's. I believe that it has been theorized that the early 67 Shelby's came with the non GT exhaust tip's and instead the duel exhaust turn downs (which could also come on a K code or S code duel exhaust) which is why they came without the cutouts in the rear valance. A regular Mustang duel exhaust car could be ordered that way too. I suspect is that since SA was adding their own distinctive tip's perhaps the money saved on deleting the Mustang GT tips justified the extra work on cutting out the rear valance and possibly adding the typical duel exhaust turn out.
24 hours of radio silence starts now...get ready!
Should I really be as excited as I am about this reveal????
I can't help it! ;)
Quote from: Richstang on August 16, 2018, 06:46:36 PM
Eric,
Your find of #0100, the FIRST production GT500, will always be a BIG deal. That was and still is such a amazing find!
It gives us hopes the other missing cars will one day be found. Hopefully sooner than later.
If the reveal is Jim Morrisons' Blue lady, that opens up a whole different type of interest level, much like the "real" Bullitt.
(Hey Brian G, isn't Jimmy's music way before your time. I guess no one cares much about the Red Rocket / Sammy Hagar's '67 GT500, from our Van Halen generation)
Van Haggar is definitely my generation, but his Shelby isn't missing:
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-FASTBACK-SAMMY-HAGARS-201711
Quote from: BGlover67 on August 16, 2018, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: Richstang on August 16, 2018, 06:46:36 PM
Eric,
Your find of #0100, the FIRST production GT500, will always be a BIG deal. That was and still is such a amazing find!
It gives us hopes the other missing cars will one day be found. Hopefully sooner than later.
If the reveal is Jim Morrisons' Blue lady, that opens up a whole different type of interest level, much like the "real" Bullitt.
(Hey Brian G, isn't Jimmy's music way before your time. I guess no one cares much about the Red Rocket / Sammy Hagar's '67 GT500, from our Van Halen generation)
Van Haggar is definitely my generation, but his Shelby isn't missing:
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1967-SHELBY-GT500-FASTBACK-SAMMY-HAGARS-201711
OK fair enough. #3172 was never missing, Hagar didn't buy it new, and it was born Nightmist Blue with an automatic, no stick.
SA shop from LV supposed to reveal new toys that Gary said they could not reveal at SAAC-43 in Sonoma because of commitment to do it at Woodward in Ford's backyard.. Probably their Shelby version of the new Raptor and GT500 as a Super Snake with insane horsepower and major suspension mods.
Waiting...
Order of what I want it to be.
1) Morrison's car
2) Edsel's car
3) Prototype Hertz
4) Lil' Red
My bet is the odds will favor a reverse order of that.
Morrison.. Blah. (I don't hold junkies in high regard) As for another surviving Shelby, yes. ( Rumor has this it that Morrison's Shelby's remains were found some years ago.) Perhaps it is now completely restored.
Lil' Red, Absolutely!
I guess we'll all know tomorrow!
What about Connie's car? Isn't that one still missing?
Maybe as part of the NAFTA revision we will get a licensed Shelby De Mexico continuation! ::)
Quote from: Don Johnston on August 17, 2018, 12:50:17 AM
Maybe as part of the NAFTA revision we will get a licensed Shelby De Mexico continuation! ::)
That's great! LMAO
It's coming....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/ford-mystery-car-debut-woodward-dream-cruise/
I think that article is referring to the 2018 50th anniversary Cobra jet.
No Boss 302 or GT500 yet...
Are you sure? ;)
I think/hope 0100 and 0139 are going to be joined by their long lost missing sister, 0131. If yes, with any luck, the 3 "red headed sister cars" may be reunited sometime in the not too distant future. Now, wouldn't that be something to see!!!
Quote from: BGlover67 on August 17, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
Are you sure? ;)
I'd say Yes. The article was written on the 14th, and states the intro will be on Thursday.
The Cobra Jet was introduced yesterday, wasn't it?
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on August 17, 2018, 01:00:34 PM
I think 0100 and 0139 are going to be joined by their long lost missing sister, 0131. If yes, with any luck, the 3 "red headed sister cars" may be reunited sometime in the not too distant future. Now, wouldn't that be something to see!!!
That is news!!
(If that is the case thanks to whomever didn't "crush" what was to be crushed.)
Thanks, E
Good Grief.
How much longer? ::)
The suspense is making me red in the face!
Quote from: gt350hr on August 17, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
The suspense is making me red in the face!
Could it be something to go along with this one of a kind, Kona Blue "Bullit" built for a charity raffle that is being unveiled at the Woodward Cruise ;)
(https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2018/08/17/ford-is-raffling-a-one-of-a-kind-kona-blue-mustang-bullitt-to-he/jcr:content/image.img.881.495.jpg/1534537465248.jpg)
Quote from: gt350hr on August 17, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
The suspense is making me red in the face!
Good one! ;D
Google search shows:
Shelby's Little Red GT500 EXP discovered!
Autoweek-3 hours ago
Shelby's Little Red GT500 EXP is the only GT500 coupe built by Shelby American. It was just the second coupe to get a serial number and was ...
Postage stamp size photo of rear passenger quarter. Link is not active.
Attempt to capture the photograph.
I just spoke with Brian Styles he's at the event tonight with a whole bunch of folks that we all know. He has sent me a link to a site where he's going to upload live pictures as they become available of the car.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cCpl5RvGfYxI55MLnTGNoMLaXxG81w
I just modified the link
Well, that certainly is interesting. I think this thread needs to start fresh
Looks like the new 2019/2020 (?) Ford Shelby GT500 and they will probably reveal the actual rated horsepower (press releases so far say 700+).
Lil' Red!!!!
Here are two pics (one is a bigger version of the one posted prior) I found...gee, wonder what would make a notchback car so interesting under that tarp? Especially, with a 67 style hood. ::)
Lil' Red isn't my cup of tea, but I would really be interested in the story of how it was rediscovered.
Especially since it appears to be sitting outside in the mid-west. (labeled as Texas)
Quote from: 2112 on August 17, 2018, 06:43:41 PM
Lil' Red isn't my cup of tea, but I would really be interested in the story of how it was rediscovered.
Especially since it appears to be sitting outside in the mid-west. (labeled as Texas)
The word is Jason Billups found it. Perhaps he will enlighten us on here. I'm sure the story is great.
Quote from: Shelby_0022 on August 17, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
Lil' Red!!!!
Here are two pics (one is a bigger version of the one posted prior) I found...gee, wonder what would make a notchback car so interesting under that tarp? Especially, with a 67 style hood. ::)
The Super Snake is under the cover...still waiting for the unveiled photos at the dinner.
I still think this is HUGE...or is that LITTLE...hehe
So much for throwing the wolves of the trail Pete.
I answer "little red"
Next....
++1 Pete ;)
But, STILL (all through these rare finds here) can't understand why anyone would put such a rare car "outside" in the elements ::)
I KNOW, you're thinking,"they didn't know they were rare or different". I still say bullchit!!
These people HAVE to know in some sort of instinct that these Ford cars mean something when they have different badging, sequentials, lettering, etc.... even way back then ???
I cant explain someone elses thought process or motivation, but I can tell you the story of how it was found and where its been.
Quote from: 2112 on August 14, 2018, 01:13:32 AM
Quote from: Bossssssss on August 13, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
...i would say the Chip Fooseball on the Looseball is running a very close 2nd place. With the Gas Flunky's in hot pursuit placing third....
Foose uses buckets of bondo and fake fur?
Yeah I don't like anything over 15" diameter wheels on 60's muscle, but when I saw his '65 Impala, the "Imposter", I will unabashedly refer to Foose as the greatest American Custom car builder to date.
I am running 17" 10 spokes on my Shelby. I put the 15" away. Not much in the way of decent rubber for 15" rims. I'm running 255 40 17 rear and 245 40 17 front.
Period.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/03/10/chip-foose-designed-1965-chevy-impala-takes-2015-ridler-award/?refer=musweekly
You should watch the video, it proves you actually can polish a turd.