Okay, getting the motor dropped in today with the FMX, need to know what the finish is on the dip stick. Natural, painted or ? The tube is a Robins Egg color so we have that painted and installed.
Would like to post current pictures but seems a little difficult. Any help would be appreciated.
To post pics, see if this works for you:
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Quote from: aboss4tg on August 23, 2018, 05:46:51 PM
Okay, getting the motor dropped in today with the FMX, need to know what the finish is on the dip stick. Natural, painted or ? The tube is a Robins Egg color so we have that painted and installed.
Would like to post current pictures but seems a little difficult. Any help would be appreciated.
Robin's egg blue is a very accurate description of the correct 69 GT350 trans dipstick.
Some pictures - hope they help
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-230818215626.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-230818215602.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/7/6-130717223114-73472198.jpeg)
Car is getting closer, these are from a few weeks ago. Now have the front suspension on and on four wheels. The valve covers are not correct, just a set used for the photos.
A few more photos. Car is running now and working on the small details with your help from the Forum.
Quote from: aboss4tg on October 08, 2018, 05:46:09 PM
A few more photos. Car is running now and working on the small details with your help from the Forum.
With that said I thought I would mention that the lower A/C compressor bracket was not painted black but bare cast iron color. Positive battery cable is not ether with that red rubber cover. comments meant in a helpful way.
Comments and any help are appreciated. These are easy to fix before everything is assembled.
On the battery cable, what is correct? The set I purchased came that way from the vendor, NPD.
I was under the impression it should be this style:
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/487-091018134000.jpeg)
I'm still learning, but I believe the oil filter should be engine blue.
Quote from: cj750 on October 09, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
I was under the impression it should be this style:
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/487-091018134000.jpeg)
Yes, that is the 67-69/70 Shelby style. Also a preferred orientation of the positive and negative cable. Sorry for the fuzzy illustration out of the 69 assemblyline manual but you can get the idea.
Quote from: Ldouble619 on October 09, 2018, 05:23:14 PM
I'm still learning, but I believe the oil filter should be engine blue.
It depends on if you are trying to restore to a point before the first oil change or after. A later filter after the first oil change would be a Autolite FL1 . The filters were block color blue from the mfg for assemblyline installed filters. They were not painted on the engine .
Mr. Gaines, as usual, great input. So, the positive cable he has is incorrect or just its position according to the assembly line manual? Does anyone make a copy of the assembly line filter? I guess, as long as you have an Autolite FL-1 it will look correct.
Quote from: SNAKEBIT on October 11, 2018, 06:08:39 PM
Mr. Gaines, as usual, great input. So, the positive cable he has is incorrect or just its position according to the assembly line manual? Does anyone make a copy of the assembly line filter? I guess, as long as you have an Autolite FL-1 it will look correct.
The positive cable in his picture is incorrect. If you don't have a assemblyline blue filter there are at least two ways to approach the problem. You can take a original FLI Autolite filter and paint it Ford engine blue . You can also take a reproduction FL1 filter and paint it Ford
engine blue .
What are the correct cables for a '69-'70 model?
Quote from: SNAKEBIT on October 13, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
What are the correct cables for a '69-'70 model?
Reply #8 shows a nice repro example.
Sorry, I got confused. I had thought you were saying that the one in Reply 8 was incorrect. You meant the one from the beginning of the thread. Oops.
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, when I originally restored my mach 1 to MCA rules, all the judging rule books were saying tranny dip stick tubes were painted black. I knew something was wrong when my FMX tube was light blue. But, was instructed "then" that blue was wrong.
Anyway, that's a different time.
My question is how can I get the black paint off my FMX tube without destroying the robin's egg blue underneath?
See photos of old rule books ;D
Lol, yea I've kept these rule books this long!
An excellent example of why there is no single restoration book.
Lol, especially over the past 30 years ;D
For those reading ,the rules and guidelines for concours have continue to evolve over time as different better information comes to light.That was my incentive for one to get involved . I wanted the best most accurate information to help people restore their car back to stock where they wanted to. I could do that most effectively from the inside of the various venues. Others can do that too. There is always help needed.
LOL, I'd still like to see if anyone can answer my question at reply #17.
The question is in BLUE
Quote from: 69mach351w on October 14, 2018, 05:17:11 PM
LOL, I'd still like to see if anyone can answer my question at reply #17.
The question is in BLUE
Me too. I have had similar situations before where I was trying to preserve the underlying finish within reason. All the processes I have tried would also harm the finish of the base you were trying to preserve. Here's hoping for a reasonable answer.
Quote from: 69mach351w on October 14, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, when I originally restored my mach 1 to MCA rules, all the judging rule books were saying tranny dip stick tubes were painted black. I knew something was wrong when my FMX tube was light blue. But, was instructed "then" that blue was wrong.
Some of those reflect many years ago when those organizations only had one set of rules that were used for all years and makes no matter. We were only able to provide better focus and detail once we broke them out by year or groups (67-68 for example or Mustangs and another for Shelby) many years ago when I was given that task
Quote from: 69mach351w on October 14, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
My question is how can I get the black paint off my FMX tube without destroying the robin's egg blue underneath?
If its been years you might be out of luck and be better off to just remove and repaint. If the blue is original you can always try some careful application of enamel reducer to the black and see if you can get it to come off without disturbing the underlying blue
Quote from: J_Speegle on October 14, 2018, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on October 14, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, when I originally restored my mach 1 to MCA rules, all the judging rule books were saying tranny dip stick tubes were painted black. I knew something was wrong when my FMX tube was light blue. But, was instructed "then" that blue was wrong.
Some of those reflect many years ago when those organizations only had one set of rules that were used for all years and makes no matter. We were only able to provide better focus and detail once we broke them out by year or groups (67-68 for example or Mustangs and another for Shelby) many years ago when I was given that task
Yes, I was quite aware that this was many years ago ::) LOL
And actually it wasn't organization
s, The judging books are all MCA :o
You can also see where I said "Anyway, that's a different time".
I was only asking about the paint removal process if anyone knew.
Quote from: 69mach351w on October 14, 2018, 06:21:22 PM
I was only asking about the paint removal process if anyone knew.
Did and hope it works out for you but no guarantees after all these years
69Mach, I used some very fine grit sandpaper to remove an old paintjob off of a 1960 Huffy Eldorado that had blue over a very faded red and found the name on the chainguard. I used 600 grit, I believe. I went slowly and as soon as I saw red, I moved my scratching a little and worked on more blue. Use water while you do this. You could maybe dip your wet/dry sandpaper into a weakened solution of paint remover/thinner of some kind to help along, maybe to soften-up the paint a tad or use a heat gun, held at a farther away distance than normal to help soften the top layer. Work carefully, patiently and this may work for you. Have a good'n.