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Title: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: kjspeed on September 01, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
I have several old magazine articles featuring my car that I would like to post but I don't want to violate copyrights. Anybody have a guideline that I should follow to stay compliant? Thanks!


~Kevin
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: acman63 on September 01, 2018, 12:16:50 PM
dont ask dont tell.  if someone complains you pull the post
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
There are several people on the forum that have done nothing but post other people's pictures , so far no repercussions for them.

If you want to go by forum policy, it's not permitted
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:36:38 PM
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
Maybe we could a definition of spam. LOL

So like if you got a flyer about a car show..not spam

If you get three flyers everyday....spam
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: acman63 on September 01, 2018, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
Maybe we could a definition of spam. LOL

Pork Shoulder and Ham
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: GT350Lad on September 01, 2018, 04:03:55 PM
Quote from: acman63 on September 01, 2018, 12:16:50 PM
dont ask dont tell.  if someone complains you pull the post

Exactly  8)
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Chris Thauberger on September 01, 2018, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
There are several people on the forum that have done nothing but post other people's pictures , so far no repercussions for them.

If you want to go by forum policy, it's not permitted

Sorry Pete, Ill try to refrain from posting other peoples pictures I find on the web... My bad...
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: 2112 on September 01, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 01:36:38 PM
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.

Is the intent here to prevent somebody from profiting from the use of other's photos and/or articles or to prevent sharing photos and articles, which have relatively low monetary value, with other like-minded hobbyists in an environment that money is not being exchanged?

I get it, some people don't want their material showing up anywhere without compensation. Most of those protect their data with encryption or at the least, watermarks.

When paying to use (non-technical) copyrighted data for commercial purposes, most of the money goes to the money collection service, not the actual owner of the data.
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 01, 2018, 04:39:30 PM
As the author and photographer of about a thousand car articles over the decades, it always makes me smile when someone posts an old pix or article of mine.

Yes, I understand the value of copyrighted material, et al.  But when used for good purposes (on club sites like SAAC) and not for evil (meaning: someone trying to sell something using my work product, without my knowledge)  that's the difference for me.
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 04:47:05 PM
Just to be clear, I was not calling anyone out.

The information on my website is free and I try to credit the appropriate sources and get permission when possible.

I think there is a difference between sharing a photo and starting a thread, so you can post random pictures off the internet, not credit the sources or even have a basic knowledge of the picture.

As Mr Gaines says, just my opinion others may feel differently
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 01, 2018, 04:50:11 PM
Pete, your site is awesome, and has helped me tremendously with my KR and knowledge of '68s in general.

That's the type of "for good purposes" use that I was referencing to.
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 01, 2018, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 04:47:05 PM
Just to be clear, I was not calling anyone out.

The information on my website is free and I try to credit the appropriate sources and get permission when possible.

I think there is a difference between sharing a photo and starting a thread, so you can post random pictures off the internet, not credit the sources or even have a basic knowledge of the picture.

As Mr Gaines says, just my opinion others may feel differently
That phrase is being copy righted as we speak ;)  ;D  but feel free to use it anytime on this forum.  ;D
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 08:13:56 PM
It's a deal...I will take extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 01, 2018, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 08:13:56 PM
It's a deal...I will take extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof
Fair enough.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: Shelby_r_b on September 01, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
LOL!!! ;D
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 01, 2018, 09:50:14 PM
Most companies/authors allow "short" quotations of their works to be published as long as the source is cited and given credit.

All works published in the United States before 1923 are in the public domain. Works published after 1922, but before 1978 are protected for 95 years from the date of publication. If the work was created, but not published, before 1978, the copyright lasts for the life of the author plus 70 years.
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: GT350Lad on September 01, 2018, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 01, 2018, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 01, 2018, 08:13:56 PM
It's a deal...I will take extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof
Fair enough.  ;D ;D

;D
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: stephen_becker on September 02, 2018, 12:29:47 PM
Interesting post about pictures and/or info posted on these forums

I have somebody that did this to me on another shelby (cobra) forum"

".........you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing"

And I had to sue them  >:(

So be very careful what you post as far as other peoples pictures and/or information (especially if its false & defamatory) as it could lead to a very expensive lawsuit

Stephen Becker
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: stephen_becker on September 02, 2018, 01:01:30 PM
You can also run the images thru GETTY IMAGES and see if someone has registered the pictures, etc. As Coralsnake said if you know who took the pictures or even just have a name just give them credit for it and move on

SGB

Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: kjspeed on September 02, 2018, 01:34:58 PM
So far I've scanned in articles from Mustang Illustrated Winter 1989 (McMullen Publishing), Mustang & Fords November 1991 (Peterson Publishing) and The Shelby Tale Feb/Mar 1984 (published by Shelby Owners of America, Inc.). None of these are in current publication so I wouldn't know where to begin to get written permission to post. Guess I'll just sit here and enjoy them by myself... :-X
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: stephen_becker on September 02, 2018, 02:47:11 PM
So far I've scanned in articles from Mustang Illustrated Winter 1989 (McMullen Publishing), Mustang & Fords November 1991 (Peterson Publishing) and The Shelby Tale Feb/Mar 1984 (published by Shelby Owners of America, Inc.). None of these are in current publication so I wouldn't know where to begin to get written permission to post. Guess I'll just sit here and enjoy them by myself... :-X



I would post them referencing what the publication that they came out of and what year the publication was - If someone contacts you to take them down then take them down - SGB
Title: Re: Policy on Posting Pictures of Old Magazine Pages
Post by: kjspeed on September 02, 2018, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: stephen_becker on September 02, 2018, 02:47:11 PM
So far I've scanned in articles from Mustang Illustrated Winter 1989 (McMullen Publishing), Mustang & Fords November 1991 (Peterson Publishing) and The Shelby Tale Feb/Mar 1984 (published by Shelby Owners of America, Inc.). None of these are in current publication so I wouldn't know where to begin to get written permission to post. Guess I'll just sit here and enjoy them by myself... :-X



I would post them referencing what the publication that they came out of and what year the publication was - If someone contacts you to take them down then take them down - SGB


That sounds like a plan Stephen! I will start posting at this thread: http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=2333.0 (http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=2333.0)

Meanwhile, here is an ad that I came across in the Shelby American #37. If Inglese wants to come after me, he knows where I am  8)

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/153-020918152505.jpeg)