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Title: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 17, 2018, 04:17:28 PM
Hello. I was wondering if anyone else carries any protection with them on a regular/fairly regular basis. I do, most of the time. I am going to purchase a Glock 43, which is a sub-compact, great for iwb (inside the waistband) carry and it's a 9mm. It's a pretty new model. I've seen several spec ops guys carrying it as one of their EDC (every day carry) items on YouTube videos. I also bought this nifty minimalist "wallet" by Trayvax that is a blue anodized item. I also often carry one of my two automatic knives. One is an antique American jack knife made between 1946 and 1956. I also have an Italian auto. I don't feel paranoid and I'm not in constant concern for my health or the health of my family. It's just that I have seen a lot of violence, here, in my city and all across the globe lately, as in the last 10 years or so. I may be adding some different items to my EDC that I will swap out from time-to-time, like an extendable baton and mace, in lieu of a knife. I just like to be prepared for any problem that may come up, especially when my wife and 2 small children are with me.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 2112 on September 17, 2018, 09:31:40 PM
Wow, I have to ask where you are from?

Actually, I feel I need to be more prepared all the way around.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: Don Johnston on September 17, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
Check with regional EDC laws that vary by county and State. 
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 17, 2018, 10:45:19 PM
I live in Louisville. The violence is not horrible here, just in the low-rent areas of town. I am a landlord and I have to put myself in rough neighborhood and I've had tenants threaten me, veiled and outright. I have 2 very young children with me often, along with my wife and if some worthless you know what starts to act up and come at me with my family in the car (that actually happened one time), I may have to do something that I would have to live with, for the rest of my life. Also, the last job I had as a painter (I am a painter-by-trade) was with this complete idiot who was a self-described fascist. He blew a gasket big time with me (luckily my brother was there with me), told me to meet him in the back yard of a house we spent most of the day scraping and when I wouldn't do that, he started tying to back me up in the front yard. I pulled out a Cold Steel push knife that can shave my hand and I told him you get close enough to hit me, you take a swing at me, and your getting this knife in the face, the neck. He backed off and called the cops on me. I quit painting after that for anyone. The vast majority of the painters in the trade, are jerky scumbag, rip-off artists. Yes, he sent me a text message, telling me to help him bilk his client out of money by falsifying hours my brother and I worked. That man got a call from me, when this scumbag wouldn't pay me. I eventually got paid. I live a quiet life now. I spend most of my time, with my family or out in the garage working on a task or project or down in our basement, doing woodworking or learning furniture finishing techniques.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 17, 2018, 10:50:33 PM
Btw, I got my CCDW permit years ago. In my state, if you have that license, you can carry ANY deadly weapon you want, or all of them at the same time. I've carried a straight razor, a switchblade, a pistol. My next personal defense item I would like to get, so that I can protect myself and not necessarily kill someone, would be a collapsible baton. I DO NOT want to have to live with taking a life, even if the turd is just that, because I will have to relive that over and over and over, BUT if someone like that comes to me like that, they are going to get it but good. I have also entertained learning Krav Maga here. I wanted to learn the Fred Mastro system, but there are no instructors close enough.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: FL SAAC on September 18, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
we highly recommend one of these, they have proven themselves highly effective in any and all circumstances

comparable mileage to a early model shelby
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 19, 2018, 11:15:50 PM
Sorry, can't afford a tank and I certainly would try lesser methods, first. haha ;D :P
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: dso17 on September 20, 2018, 07:03:57 AM
I work in a high crime area but have had no trouble when I'm wearing this..
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: FL SAAC on September 20, 2018, 08:08:33 AM
Quote from: dso17 on September 20, 2018, 07:03:57 AM
I work in a high crime area but have had no trouble when I'm wearing this..

and that's how we start our bbq...
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: Sixx7shelby on September 22, 2018, 09:57:32 AM
I carry a decked out Colt Officers .45 ACP for the past 20 years. I had it modified with trigger job, night sights, combat trigger/releases/safety, guide rod, ramped for hollow points, beveled magazine well,titanium firing pin, lightweight hammer, houge grips, national match barrel bushing,  and extra round Wilson Combat magazines.

My wife carries a Springfield Armory 9mm  XD Mod 2.  Much more comfortable than the Glock for us. My father-in-law has Glock 42 & 43. Try to rent them before you buy and get what is most comfortable for you!
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 22, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
Wow, that is an expensive .45. Sounds nice. Glad you two carry. I'll try to rent a Glock 43, if I can. Thanks for the good advice.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on September 22, 2018, 05:50:09 PM
I've grown up with small arms...fired my first shot when I was 3 yrs. old, shot trap and skeet in competition as a teen-ager.  Both wife & I have had CCP's since they were offered here. One of my collateral duties in the Navy was small arms co-ordinator, OIC of the base armory and R&P Team.  Whatever you chose, "Don't leave home without it" and I don't mean AMEX!  Hopefully, you'll never have to use it.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: FL SAAC on September 22, 2018, 06:24:17 PM
small arms hmmmmm...
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: Ldouble619 on September 22, 2018, 07:45:59 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on September 22, 2018, 08:08:15 PM
,,,and some folks grow up with small minds. :)
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: FL SAAC on September 22, 2018, 08:16:51 PM
yesah...lol
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: J_Speegle on September 22, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: SNAKEBIT on September 22, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
Wow, that is an expensive .45. Sounds nice. Glad you two carry. I'll try to rent a Glock 43, if I can. Thanks for the good advice.


Check Goupon in your area - often ranges will offer discounts through them with rentals, a box or so of bullets and a couple of targets.  Took advantage of this to take the wife out a while back to try out a couple of different guns for her.  That and lunch made an easy date of it ;)
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 69mach351w on September 23, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
Yes, been a responsible conceal carry person for several years.

And Yes, carry my weapon everywhere I go. Except Church and fed/state properties.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 69mach351w on September 23, 2018, 09:49:50 AM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on September 22, 2018, 05:50:09 PM
I've grown up with small arms...fired my first shot when I was 3 yrs. old, shot trap and skeet in competition as a teen-ager.  Both wife & I have had CCP's since they were offered here. One of my collateral duties in the Navy was small arms co-ordinator, OIC of the base armory and R&P Team.  Whatever you chose, "Don't leave home without it" and I don't mean AMEX!  Hopefully, you'll never have to use it.
NC, so we're not having to sit here and guess, us non-military civilians, let all know what the initials mean ;)

I know what CCP means, but some reading may not.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: Chris Thauberger on September 23, 2018, 10:04:29 AM
Well AMEX stands for American Express.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 23, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
I often leave home without it, but I will put my best foot forward this coming week to not do that. I need a 9mm and all I have right now, is a .32 with hollow points. It'll put the hurt on someone, but I want more power, so the Glock 43 will do. I want to carry inside the waistband. I also need to lose about 30 lbs., which is why I don't carry on my belt much, that and often my t-shirts during the Summer show a pretty big imprint. During the Fall and Winter, it is easier to conceal around my waist, of course. Thanks for all the imput, guys. Glad you all are staying safe. G-d forbid we would ever have to shoot someone. That is one of my biggest fears.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on September 23, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
OIC=Officer in Charge  R&P=Rifle & Pistol  CCP=Concealed Carry Permit
FWIW, there's really no one pistol to fit all occasions.  I currently carry a Ruger LCP .380 for maximum concealment and have two different holsters for it, one "in the pocket" and one that converts to either in or outside the waistband.  The other is a Ruger LC9S in 9mm with a convertible IWB or OWB holster.  I've equipped both pistols with Crimson Trace lasers.  My wife prefers wheel guns (revolvers) for their simplicity....a Colt Cobra .38 Special and a Smith & Wesson 351PD in .22 Magnum. Both are very lightweight and easily concealable.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 69mach351w on September 23, 2018, 06:31:49 PM
Cool NC ;)

I have my CCP and have for years. I carry a 1915 .32 Colt hammerless. My wifes Granny bought it back then (she was born in 1895), gave it to her Son (my Dad in Law), and when he passed, my wife inherited it :)

Super pistol, VERY accurate
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 2112 on September 23, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
Quote from: SNAKEBIT on September 23, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
I often leave home without it, but I will put my best foot forward this coming week to not do that. I need a 9mm and all I have right now, is a .32 with hollow points. It'll put the hurt on someone, but I want more power, so the Glock 43 will do. I want to carry inside the waistband. I also need to lose about 30 lbs., which is why I don't carry on my belt much, that and often my t-shirts during the Summer show a pretty big imprint. During the Fall and Winter, it is easier to conceal around my waist, of course. Thanks for all the imput, guys. Glad you all are staying safe. G-d forbid we would ever have to shoot someone. That is one of my biggest fears.

There was an interesting case in Arizona (pro-gun state) where a guy defended himself by shooting a crazed man wielding a shovel (IIRC) and was prosecuted for murder because he used Hydra-Shock hollow point instead of FMJ.

That was 5-6 years ago I think. Food for thought.   ::)
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 23, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
2112, probably some libturd prosecutor wanted to make a case outta his use of something other than fmj. Tsk, tsk. It's amazing what some people think is important in this life.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 2112 on September 23, 2018, 10:16:39 PM
Yes, but I think the prosecutor prevailed. I am not sure if it has been appealed. Wish I knew more specifics.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 6s1802 on September 23, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
50 state retired LEO CCW, is the only way to go.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: CSX 4133 on September 24, 2018, 06:44:32 AM
Quote from: 6s1802 on September 23, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
50 state retired LEO CCW, is the only way to go.

Thirty-five years retired from Law enforcement, I used my privilege for a few years but I've grown accustomed to not feeling I need to carry. Looks like we share some close commonality 6s1802, 6S1806 owner here.   :)
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: 69mach351w on September 24, 2018, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on September 23, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
OIC=Officer in Charge  R&P=Rifle & Pistol  CCP=Concealed Carry Permit
FWIW, there's really no one pistol to fit all occasions.  I currently carry a Ruger LCP .380 for maximum concealment and have two different holsters for it, one "in the pocket" and one that converts to either in or outside the waistband.  The other is a Ruger LC9S in 9mm with a convertible IWB or OWB holster.  I've equipped both pistols with Crimson Trace lasers.  My wife prefers wheel guns (revolvers) for their simplicity....a Colt Cobra .38 Special and a Smith & Wesson 351PD in .22 Magnum. Both are very lightweight and easily concealable.
Stan,

Here's a couple photos of my .32 hammerless. This pistol was manufactured in 1915.  I found this information out on the coltcollectors.com website several months back.

Hard to believe this pistol is over 100 years old, it looks almost new  ;)
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 24, 2018, 04:06:57 PM
69Mach, nice pistol.
Thanks to our leo for their service to their respective communities.
I'm glad Kentucky issues CCDW permits, instead of the regular CCW. Anyways, everyone stay safe out there. Violence happens, nowadays, everywhere it seems. Hospitals, shopping malls, sports and music venues, schools, churches, parking lots, state fairs, you name it and it is damn near everywhere. I'd rather be safe, than sorry and I know that is something our former leo members can agree on.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: pbf777 on September 25, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on September 18, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
we highly recommend one of these, they have proven themselves highly effective in any and all circumstances

     I agree completely, but, a tad difficult on the conceal & carry side attempting to remain inconspicuous, and even though it's only a "little" tank, forget convenient parking!  Don't, ask me how I know.    ::)

     Scott.
Title: Re: Self-Protection EDC
Post by: SNAKEBIT on September 25, 2018, 04:22:42 PM
Hey guys, when I ducked into the local conceal carry store near my house, I found a neat gun. I went in to look at the Glock Gen 4 43. When I was finished looking at it, I went around looking at everything else and ran across an FNH I was not aware of. It is the 509 tactical with the 24 round mag, nice sights and the suppressor-ready barrel. I'd love to get one, but they are too pricey for me and they are not small enough for the waistband. Maybe I'll get a used one another time.