What is the difference from the 67 Shelby GT350 radiator versus mustang. Is Shelby a saddle style mount only ? If you have a early 67 that would mean it would have to have a C7ZE H2 tag built before Dec 66.
Troy
No difference between a San Jose Mustang and a 67 GT350 both from the same application (automatic or manual) if they have the same tag. Radiators installed at the other two plants would not match as far as details
As far as the H2 tag - that would be correct if the car in question was a 4 speed equipped 67 GT350
remember these assemblies are dated also
Quote from: 68cobra427 on November 23, 2018, 05:47:54 PM
What is the difference from the 67 Shelby GT350 radiator versus mustang.
Is Shelby a saddle style mount only ?
If you have a early 67 that would mean it would have to have a C7ZE H2 tag built before Dec 66.
Troy
If by "saddle" you mean the upside-down "U" shaped top brackets to hold the radiator to the radiator core support - that is a Big Block method, not small block.
Depends on the San Jose build date - if the car was built at San Jose prior to say mid-December-ish of '66 then yes.
Quote from: J_Speegle on November 23, 2018, 06:10:03 PM
No difference between a San Jose Mustang and a 67 GT350 both from the same application (automatic or manual) if they have the same tag. Radiators installed at the other two plants would not match as far as details
As far as the H2 tag - that would be correct if the car in question was a 4 speed equipped 67 GT350
remember these assemblies are dated also
To add - Most people don't take into account that the radiators are identified in two different ways . The radiators used at the Dearborn and Metuchen plants are metal stamped with the C7 engineering numbers on the side strap .The SJ built Mustangs and Shelby's radiators had the engineering number embossed on a metal tag that was later soldered onto the top of the tank. Most often the tag was soldered onto the driver side of the top tank.
For future reference for others
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-231118215357.jpeg)
Red Arrow - Identification tag/label
Blue arrow - Makers mark & date
Green arrow - FoMoCo in a rectangle
Thanks everyone.
After reading multiple threads about radiators I have a few more questions
Would the tag for a 67 GT350 4 speed built in SJ on May 02 with extra cooling package would have a tag of C7ZE-R2?
There was also a comments about fins per inch. I can only find 10 and 12 fins/inch available. I assume it would be 12?
Does the extra cooling radiator have a 2 row or 3 row core?
Is there a difference in the number of rows across the radiator?
Thank you.
Quote from: cascade-classics on February 28, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
After reading multiple threads about radiators I have a few more questions
Would the tag for a 67 GT350 4 speed built in SJ on May 02 with extra cooling package would have a tag of C7ZE-R2?
There was also a comments about fins per inch. I can only find 10 and 12 fins/inch available. I assume it would be 12?
Does the extra cooling radiator have a 2 row or 3 row core?
Is there a difference in the number of rows across the radiator?
Thank you.
Typically see H2 on MT 67 GT350.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 28, 2019, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: cascade-classics on February 28, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
After reading multiple threads about radiators I have a few more questions
Would the tag for a 67 GT350 4 speed built in SJ on May 02 with extra cooling package would have a tag of C7ZE-R2?
There was also a comments about fins per inch. I can only find 10 and 12 fins/inch available. I assume it would be 12?
Does the extra cooling radiator have a 2 row or 3 row core?
Is there a difference in the number of rows across the radiator?
Thank you.
Typically see H2 on MT 67 GT350.
Okay, I just thought H2 was for build dates before Dec 1966. Any thoughts on my other questions?
Quote from: cascade-classics on February 28, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
After reading multiple threads about radiators I have a few more questions
Would the tag for a 67 GT350 4 speed built in SJ on May 02 with extra cooling package would have a tag of C7ZE-R2?
Was the car built as part of the #2590 group order?
Have data from two cars from that group finished on May 4th and 5th with the C7ZE-U2 Dates from April and May 67 on those.
Also have an example built on the 1st and a couple two months before that period with C7ZE-T2. None of these cars were unrestored but they were not single findings either. Dates from Feb - April 67 for this group and H2s with dates before that.
Hope this helps
Don't at the moment recognize an R2
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 28, 2019, 07:05:43 PM
Quote from: cascade-classics on February 28, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
After reading multiple threads about radiators I have a few more questions
Would the tag for a 67 GT350 4 speed built in SJ on May 02 with extra cooling package would have a tag of C7ZE-R2?
Was the car built as part of the #2590 group order?
Have data from two cars from that group finished on May 4th and 5th with the C7ZE-U2 Dates from April and May 67 on those.
Also have an example built on the 1st and a couple two months before that period with C7ZE-T2. None of these cars were unrestored but they were not single findings either. Dates from Feb - April 67 for this group and H2s with dates before that.
Hope this helps
Don't at the moment recognize an R2.
If you mean DSO Special order group then no, this has a special order #2586. The R2 code is from the list that AMK sells.
Quote from: cascade-classics on February 28, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
If you mean DSO Special order group then no, this has a special order #2586. The R2 code is from the list that AMK sells.
Yes the DSO and yes I see that a group of those cars were completed on the first and second. One of those cars in that group and completion date as mentioned earlier has or had a C7ZE-T2. Don't have the date of the radiator to offer that also unfortunately
Would not let "what is available or for sale" guide you into assuming something is right for your specific car.
My car has R2, pretty sure original
Dave
Another picture
Quote from: DRGT350 on February 28, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
My car has R2, pretty sure original
Dave when was the car completed?
Quote from: DRGT350 on February 28, 2019, 10:26:18 PM
Another picture
Dave,
Another thing to note in this picture, I have seen two different top tanks. Notice that your top tank hose connection does not line up with the cut out on your fan shroud? I have a picture of two different '67 top tanks....one more lateral and the other more medial. The more medial/middle one lines up with the fan shroud cut out.
You can see if Jeff's picture, the hose is more to the middle and lines up with the FoMoCo. Your hose is to the left of the FoMoCo casting. (closer to the fender)
Nick
It's 1358, registry say completer 3/31/67
Dave
Nick,
You are correct. My tube is definitely more to the left that the picture that was posted by Jeff. Not sure what that's about?
Dave
Quote from: DRGT350 on February 28, 2019, 11:49:21 PM
It's 1358, registry say completer 3/31/67
Dave
Sorry should have asked when it was completed at San Jose. The date that is important to this discussion
In your case Feb 25th
Had the car long? Have some pictures of what was reported to be 67-#1358 from back a few years (maybe 2013) when it appears it was up for sale
These look familiar?
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-010319013102.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-010319013444.jpeg)
Had a handful of other owners from around the first of the month report that they also have cars (GT350 4 speed) with what appear to be original radiators with T2 identification tags. Thought I should share that with the thread