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The Cars => 1965 GT350/R-Model => Topic started by: Cobrask8 on December 30, 2018, 11:50:56 AM

Title: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Cobrask8 on December 30, 2018, 11:50:56 AM
On a Facebook page, I saw and participated in a thread about someone selling a very bad clone, and had a Shelby tag with 5S306.

The car was originally a Detroit 6-cyl, and had so much wrong, it was actually hilarious. Yet the story was the seller was swearing the car was authentic! Many on the thread blew the car apart, and I also contributed, but kept the good secrets off the thread. The person looking to buy saw the truth, and did not buy as a Shelby, but may go back and offer badly modified Mustang money.

I cannot currently find the post, it may have been taken off, but wanted to put out the word about someone using the number.

Just an FYI.
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Cobrask8 on December 30, 2018, 08:29:31 PM
Here are some pics of the impostor

Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 09:42:44 PM
I assume it didn't have any cooling issues.....
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Shelby_r_b on December 30, 2018, 10:46:49 PM
Geez.  That's bad!  :o
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 557 on December 31, 2018, 12:13:11 PM
Well it is "a" wood steering wheel!!!About those(non side exiting) exhaust trumpets..... ???
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 6s1802 on December 31, 2018, 12:25:10 PM
Hey don't feel bad, that fake Shelby that was saved in the Malibu fire had a tag with a number only two numbers away from mine.
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 557 on December 31, 2018, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: 6s1802 on December 31, 2018, 12:25:10 PM
Hey don't feel bad, that fake Shelby that was saved in the Malibu fire had a tag with a number only two numbers away from mine.
Real tag/fake car or fake tag fake car?
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: TransamEd on December 31, 2018, 01:40:55 PM
The real 5S306 was delivered to Ecurie Filippinetti/Switzerland.
I ran over a 5S306 tagged car 1999 in France. Not sure if real or not, but of course that is no authentification.

(http://www.ponysite.de/5S306_1999web.jpg)
BTW Burgol does not show any more pics of it on their website, only the number.
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 6s1802 on December 31, 2018, 02:06:17 PM
Fake tag fake car
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: GT350Lad on December 31, 2018, 02:43:12 PM
Wow, pretty average car and move, I wonder what kind of money they are after
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: TransamEd on December 31, 2018, 05:29:11 PM
Here is a copy of the french article from 2002 (V8 Magazine) in french language about that french/swiss car carrying the 5S306 tag. (visible in one pic).

http://mustangshelbyandco.xooit.fr/t132-1965-Ford-Mustang-Shelby-GT350.htm
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: CharlesTurner on December 31, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
Use google translate to translate the site to engish:

https://translate.google.com/

Put the link in the left box, choose translate from French.  On the right, choose English, then click the link in the right box.

FYI...
The picture of the tag on the site is not a real tag with the '5S' in black before the number.
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 31, 2018, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on December 31, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
Use google translate to translate the site to engish:

https://translate.google.com/

Put the link in the left box, choose translate from French.  On the right, choose English, then click the link in the right box.

FYI...
The picture of the tag on the site is not a real tag with the '5S' in black before the number.
It is hard to tell, but it looks like one of those really bad tags that is printed with Shelby America vs Shelby American
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: Cobrask8 on January 01, 2019, 12:09:10 PM
Looks like a popular number to use!

I guess the "cloners" are using an older registry?
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: rraceme on March 08, 2019, 07:28:55 PM
My comments are a little off subject..... but my two cents worth, with the amount of knowledge and documentation known on early GT-350's and easy of verification. Any person which purchases a fake car deserves it. Maybe 25 or 30 years ago (before internet) buyers were cheated. But in this day and time where a 1965 GT-350 can fetch $300,000 or more. I would think all potential buyers would do their home work to establish the authenticity of their purchase. 3 weeks ago I purchased my first 1966 GT-350 (not the more coveted 65 model) after looking for a car for almost 20 years. In all this time looking at cars I never experienced anyone pitching a fake as the real deal. I'm sure it happens but rarely. Like I said my 2 cents- Thanks for listening.
PS these Shelby forums are incredibly informative I learn something technical every time I read postings. Truly amazing!
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on March 08, 2019, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: 6s1802 on December 31, 2018, 02:06:17 PM
Fake tag fake car
Ignorant assertion.,A reproduction tag doesn't make it a fake car. My Shelby was driven under the rear step of a concrete truck.  I had to replace all the sheet metal but the frame rails from the shock towers forward.  The ford vin is correct for my vehicle, as is the title. The vehicle had been off the road since 1977. Marti did the repo tag and the ford vin on the LF apron.  Assumption is the mother of all F-ups.

                                                                                         -Keith
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: SHELB66 on March 09, 2019, 02:19:30 AM
^^^ Read post #6 then read post #8.  It's just an answer to a question.  I don't believe an "ignorant assertion" is being made in this instance.  You are correct as a reproduction tag in no way is indicative of a fake car but should raise a few eyebrows and lead to some further questions as to why the original is missing.

Craig R.
Title: Re: Someone using the 5S306 number
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on March 09, 2019, 02:24:11 AM
No, I concur on what we know and why in this case of this vehicle My point was only that I have seen many have Marti make a new tag and include the original with the sale. The originals were beat to hell and looked horrible a full restoration.

                                                                                                          -Keith