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Title: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Bigfoot on December 30, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
Sell ur Raptor and buy that sucker...
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 30, 2018, 06:20:27 PM
Raptor left 2 years ago Biggie (lots of electrical issues), I now have a Shelby F-150, 700 HP, but I need it for towing my car trailer around to the judging meets.......maybe I could sell a Corvette tanker....... 8)
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Bigfoot on December 30, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
R those all split windows?..
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: 2112 on December 30, 2018, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I would rather have a MK I with a fixed roof.

And with my income level, it would have to be a replica.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Wedgeman on December 30, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
If that is he case...WOW..what is the ...MACH IV....going to go for ?.... ;D....LOL!!
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Greg on December 30, 2018, 07:30:43 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster


Thats a "I DON"T WANT TO SELL" number....
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: prototypefan on December 30, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
https://us5.campaign-archive.com/?e=8589de2fe9&u=db3f33528e1496a2ba58ad3c9&id=18db12370b


It's on sale now......only $11 million

I'll take two!!!! :)

Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I am not sure I agree with your reading comprehension.  The link you posted indicates that a LeMans winning GT should fetch in excess of $50M.  They are guessing this will go for more than $11M. 
Since Dana Mecum owns it, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and sell it with no reserve like they are always goading their consignors to do. 
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: SCJSTU on December 30, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I am not sure I agree with your reading comprehension.  The link you posted indicates that a LeMans winning GT should fetch in excess of $50M.  They are guessing this will go for more than $11M. 
Since Dana Mecum owns it, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and sell it with no reserve like they are always goading their consignors to do.

How long has Dana owned it?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on December 30, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I am not sure I agree with your reading comprehension.  The link you posted indicates that a LeMans winning GT should fetch in excess of $50M.  They are guessing this will go for more than $11M. 
Since Dana Mecum owns it, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and sell it with no reserve like they are always goading their consignors to do.

How long has Dana owned it?
Since 2013 according to the info.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Wedgeman on December 30, 2018, 08:44:55 PM
Do the Mecums keep anything ?  or is it just about the $$$$$$... ::)
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 30, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on December 30, 2018, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I am not sure I agree with your reading comprehension.  The link you posted indicates that a LeMans winning GT should fetch in excess of $50M.  They are guessing this will go for more than $11M. 
Since Dana Mecum owns it, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and sell it with no reserve like they are always goading their consignors to do.

How long has Dana owned it?
Dean Jefferies son sold it from the estate. This car sat under a dusty cover in his shop for years. Dean did a lot of studio cars Monkee Mobile, Green Hornet and about every SciFi looking car in every SciFi movie until the late 80s.

Here are some good shots with the Indy motor in it. https://solaros1.smugmug.com/Dean-Jeffries-19332013/Dean-Jeffries-19332013/i-jmT2bC8/A
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: propayne on December 30, 2018, 09:13:20 PM
Here is a photo of it as it sat at Jeffries' shop -

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-301218211147.jpeg)
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Greg on December 30, 2018, 09:30:36 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: CorvetteMike on December 30, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
Mecum predicts it will need $50 million to sell........https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359641/1965-ford-gt-competition-prototype-roadster

I am not sure I agree with your reading comprehension.  The link you posted indicates that a LeMans winning GT should fetch in excess of $50M.  They are guessing this will go for more than $11M. 
Since Dana Mecum owns it, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and sell it with no reserve like they are always goading their consignors to do. 


I doubt the same methods apply to him but if he did, RESPECT he would have.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on December 30, 2018, 08:44:55 PM
Do the Mecums keep anything ?  or is it just about the $$$$$$... ::)

They were willing to pi$$ off Ford when they sold that new GT. I hope it was worth it since I don't recall seeing any Ford sponsorship nor ads at any of their auctions since .
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: prototypefan on December 30, 2018, 10:16:29 PM
Quote from: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car

Not a 40 but not far off.........and one of the most incredible stories in car world
https://petrolicious.com/articles/this-lola-mk6-gt-prototype-made-the-first-ford-gt40-possible

Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car
Yeah, but Mecum doesn't own any of them....

Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 30, 2018, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: prototypefan on December 30, 2018, 10:16:29 PM
Quote from: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car

Not a 40 but not far off.........and one of the most incredible stories in car world
https://petrolicious.com/articles/this-lola-mk6-gt-prototype-made-the-first-ford-gt40-possible
That car is tiny. Allen Grant and the car were at the recent LASAAC Show at Shelby's we commented that if they said we could have the car if you could get in and drive it away there would be a very small percentage able to do it. Think 3/4 scale Lotus Europa another car I sold because it was a PIA to get in and out of.

BTW: Being here is SoCal where Dean Jefferies was an Icon I would prefer to have the car as he saw it. Finally finishing it after keeping it all those years as a retirement project.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: sfm5s081 on December 31, 2018, 01:46:45 AM
I too saw this car at deans shop. I now own deans 1956 Porsche Carrera and I tried to buy his shop on cahuenga.... sadly it's now a shop that fixes priuses!
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 31, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on December 30, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
R those all split windows?..
No, only one of the 5 is, the others are '64s and '66s.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Coralsnake on December 31, 2018, 11:32:54 AM
I like the no reserve comment.  ;)

If you want to encourage everyone else to lay their jewels on the block, you should do the same.

Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: csx289 on December 31, 2018, 01:42:38 PM
Hi, All,

Man some anti-Mecum stuff on this thread! I don't have a dog in the hunt but I have consigned and bought a lot of cars with Mecum and they have been great to work with. Never "goaded" into no-reserve by any stretch. Yeah, on the block they will try to get you to DROP your reserve but that's their job- to get cars sold. From what I've seen most consignors are unrealistic and Mecum plays the role of saying "hey, your car isn't worth $100k but we have a bid of $60k so if you want to take the money now is the time." Tough job I assume. FWIW they are also the only auction company that I've dealt with that will negotiate big time on their fees to get a deal done. I've had them sell cars for me and NET me more than the hammer price to get deals done meaning not only did they not take a selling commission but they've also dipped into the buyer's commission. Even when they don't do that you see it on the TV broadcast all the time where they'll work a deal to death cutting their take to make it happen. It's entertaining and also shows they know the basic business 101 principle that making something is better than nothing.

Now, auctions like Barrett-Jackson simply don't allow reserves unless you have a special car that exceeds a certain value that they determine. Same with RM, Gooding, Bonhams- the general rule is under $250k you are no reserve or you're not selling a car there. Plus you'll be paying full commission too even if you get your a$$ handed to you! Stand around those sales enough and you'll hear some real horror stories.

As for GT109 I saw this car being restored for Dana Mecum at Harley Cluxton's shop in Scottsdale. I was impressed that Mecum told them he wanted it as accurate as possible- and the number of NOS/ original hen's teeth parts they hunted down to do that. Like original plug wires, tires, etc. I think it's unfair to say somebody "never keeps anything" when they rescued a decades-stalled project, paid what it took to buy it and restored it right, had it on the podium at Pebble Beach and other concours events (it was best in show at the Milwaukee Concours for one) and then sells it after 5 years. It isn't like one of these 2 week flippers we see all over today that call themselves "collectors." I can't speak for Mecum but I know for me the thrill is the hunt then getting a car and making it what I think it should be. Once you win the shows, or the races, or have your fun with it then what? Let's face facts Mecum won't be driving this car on the road, nor will it be raced, and it has won at Pebble, etc so now it is a static piece. A pricey one at that. I can't fault him for changing things up, and not that I'll ever know but seems like a guy can only have so many $11M+ cars laying around?

Just my opinions of course. Seems like a lot of these "up for auction" threads get negative really quickly. I think it's cool that Mecum restored GT109 and is offering it at public sale so we can all live vicariously so I don't really understand the negativity. Compare that to a lot of the stuff I see being sold that is clearly misrepresented or being flipped and I'll take seeing a GT40 being sold any day! I'll be in Florida when it crosses the block, as well as the Super Snake. Should be interesting to say the least, not many sales have the level of killer Ford and Shelby stuff that they'll be selling in Kissimmee.

Happy New Year to you all!

Colin
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: acman63 on December 31, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
same car at Shelby in 65?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Coralsnake on December 31, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
Tbird lights on the car in the back?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: csx289 on December 31, 2018, 04:00:21 PM
5S010 in back I'd guess Pete?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Side-Oilers on December 31, 2018, 04:04:36 PM
Noticing the guard standing by the shack, in the background:  Anyone ever tried to track down the SA guard(s) and interview him/them?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Coralsnake on December 31, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
Colin did 5S010 have the vinyl roof?
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on December 31, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
6S001 had the vinyl top
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Bigfoot on December 31, 2018, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car
Yeah, but Mecum doesn't own any of them....

Baaaaaaaa
How true.
Title: Re: The most famous, and expensive Ford GT.....
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on December 31, 2018, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on December 31, 2018, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on December 30, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: acman63 on December 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
I can think if more than 10 of these cars that are far more desirable and rare than this car
Yeah, but Mecum doesn't own any of them....

Baaaaaaaa
How true.
Godt nytt år! Feliz año nuevo! Happy New Year!  To you Biggie, may the new year bring all you have ever wanted.  Cheers!