We might as well bring this old forum thread back to track flat gas emblem cars. The total numbers have been noted as low as 60 to just over 100. Here is the list of cars noted to have them (or had them originally, but were replaced in restoration). Car #0082 with its 12/13/66 SA completion date is the latest date we know of. The only GT500's known to have a flat gas cap emblem is the prototype V-738-2 and the first production GT500 #100. Please correct me at if there are any errors or let us know of any additions.
By VIN number
Car # Model Flat Gas Cap SA Completion
V7382 GT500 Yes 9/-/1966
0001 GT350 Yes 11/4/1966
0002 GT350 Yes 10/20/1966 JD
0004 GT350 Yes 10/31/1966
0008 GT350 Yes 11/5/1966 Bob G.
0011 GT350 Yes 12/9/1966 per Mongo
0012 GT350 Yes 11/4/1966 rcgt350 photo (updated 8/20/2019)
0014 GT350 Yes 11/3/1966
0016 GT350 Yes 11/2/1966 JD
0018 GT350 Yes 10/19/1966
0020 GT350 Yes 11/2/1966
0021 GT350 Yes 11/4/1966 per registry & JD
0022 GT350 Yes 11/5/1966 JD
0023 GT350 Yes 11/4/1966 JD – restored with flat emblems (updated 2/13/18)
0024 GT350 Yes 10/26/1966 per registry & JD
0026 GT350 Yes 11/4/1966
0027 GT350 Yes 11/4/66 RP photo
0029 GT350 Yes 10/31/1966
0030 GT350 Yes 10/31/1966 per registry
0031 GT350 Yes 10/26/1966 per registry
0036 GT350 Yes 11/7/1966 per registry & JD
0046 GT350 Yes 11/9/1966
0050 GT350 Yes 11/9/1966
0054 GT350 Yes 11/5/1966 per registry & JD
0062 GT350 Yes 11/6/1966 per owner & registry
0063 GT350 Yes 11/14/1966 per registry & JD
0066 GT350 Yes 10/31/1966 JD – restored with flat emblem (updated 2/13/18)
0067 GT350 Yes 11/16/1966 per owner note & photo B. Styles (updated 8/19/2019)
0069 GT350 Yes 11/10/1966 per owner "Martyjac"
0071 GT350 Yes 11/30/1966 Goodfriends sales ad (updated 3/7/2018)
0073 GT350 Yes 11/30/1966 JD
0078 GT350 Yes 10/31/1966 JD
0082 GT350 Yes 12/13/1966
0083 GT350 Yes 11/5/1966 Brian G.
0087 GT350 Yes 11/8/1966 per registry & JD
0098 GT350 Yes 11/5/66 photo (updated 11/12/2021 RP)
0100 GT500 Yes 12/7/1966 (or 11/10/1966)
0176 GT350 Yes 9/-/1966
Thanks for compiling all this information, Rich!
0012 is another, 0003, what about 0019?
#3 currently does not have one, it is thought that because of when it was completed that it "should" have one but some first hand and/or photo proof is needed.
Car #23 does have a flat gas emblem.
Car #66 does have a flat gas emblem.
Way back when, at SAAC 11 or SAAC 14 -both Dearborn conventions - the talk on the show field was that about 85 cars had it (or is that got it?). Seems us few early model owners there we not off on the count.
Richstang and I strongly believe that the Shelby seen in the Detroit Auto Show in late '66 is no 003.
Interestly, in the pics it doesn't have a flat gas cap, but it has a GT one instead. You could argue that it was stolen at the show, like the upper red scoop light lens appear to have been, but car 0145 was bought by it's original owner with a GT cap also. Gives you some doubt as to whether or not 003 ever got one?
https://imageshack.com/a/bAOl/1
Quote from: BGlover67 on February 06, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
Richstang and I strongly believe that the Shelby seen in the Detroit Auto Show in late '66 is no 003.
Interestly, in the pics it doesn't have a flat gas cap, but it has a GT one instead. You could argue that it was stolen at the show, like the upper red scoop light lens appear to have been, but car 0145 was bought by it's original owner with a GT cap also. Gives you some doubt as to whether or not 003 ever got one?
https://imageshack.com/a/bAOl/1
Or maybe it was stolen too. Don't dismiss the attraction of this unusual souvenir to a sticky fingered enthusiast. Two screws and its gone. I find it less likely the cars would have left SA without the badging. That brand identification was very important to SA. Just my opinion.
Quote from: rcgt350 on February 06, 2018, 01:14:42 AM
0012 is another, 0003, what about 0019?
Thanks Randy,
Do you have photos of any of these three cars showing the flat cap emblem?
I don't have any photos of #0012, #0003 is questionable as noted by others, and #0019 shows a curved emblem in my photo file.
I'll send you a PM with my email address if you can to share any photos with me.
Rich
Quote from: BGlover67 on February 06, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
Richstang and I strongly believe that the Shelby seen in the Detroit Auto Show in late '66 is no 003.
Interestly, in the pics it doesn't have a flat gas cap, but it has a GT one instead. You could argue that it was stolen at the show, like the upper red scoop light lens appear to have been, but car 0145 was bought by it's original owner with a GT cap also. Gives you some doubt as to whether or not 003 ever got one?
https://imageshack.com/a/bAOl/1
Brain, #0003 is a strong possibility for the Detroit show, but so is #0069. No other cars appear to fit the location and timeline as well. That said, I recall on the old forum a post from someone who was there and said it was not a green or black car as they or their father didn't like those colors and he remember that detail very well. ???
I think there too many questions about #0003 to put it on the list of flat gas caps. As it sits now the car has been altered in too many places. Certainly the early SA completion date supports it having it. If it is the Detroit show car we still have to wonder if it left SA with the "GT" cap or if it was stolen and this "GT" cap was the quick fix the replace it.
Quote from: roddster on February 06, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
Way back when, at SAAC 11 or SAAC 14 -both Dearborn conventions - the talk on the show field was that about 85 cars had it (or is that got it?). Seems us few early model owners there we not off on the count.
I'm going to throw in curveball theories. If the flat gas caps were pre assembled of the assembly line then the highest number currently known (excluding #100 the first GT500) is #0082. That could mean at least 82 cars with had them.
If looking at SA completion dates, #0082 is also the latest car built (SA 12/13/66) with a flat cap as currently known. That could put the total number much higher, up to around 124 cars with them. This "dated" theory could fit in with the Fred Goodell time / cost savings efforts along with the upper scoop lights deletion.
Something to consider....
updates on list in red....with dates
Our 1967 GT500 #185 completion date at SA of 01/04/1967. Has the convex or curved and embossed gas filler emblem. Rick
Hi All,
Just a quick note to add 0017 to the list also.After looking at this list maybe someone should ask if anyone has seen or got pictures of a G.T.500 with a flat cap that was built prior to Jan 1967.
We know of only 2 well documented ones to this point.....any others known ??? Still looks like they made less than 90 as a total.Cut off date seems to be early January 1967 for all cars.
Regards R.R.
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 15, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
Hi All,
Just a quick note to add 0017 to the list also.After looking at this list maybe someone should ask if anyone has seen or got pictures of a G.T.500 with a flat cap that was built prior to Jan 1967.
We know of only 2 well documented ones to this point.....any others known ??? Still looks like they made less than 90 as a total.Cut off date seems to be early January 1967 for all cars.
Regards R.R.
I was surprised there was even one up until some years ago. Even more surprised when a service replacement GT500 flat gas cap emblem showed up for sale about 5 years ago. Why would Ford go to the trouble of making service replacement parts for such a low production part? JD still has it I think.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 15, 2018, 08:55:39 PM
I was surprised there was even one up until some years ago. Even more surprised when a service replacement GT500 flat gas cap emblem showed up for sale about 5 years ago. Why would Ford go to the trouble of making service replacement parts for such a low production part? JD still has it I think.
Bob, sorry but not me, I don't have, or had, a GT500 Flat Gas emblem. If I did I'd post a photo or two to share with the gang.
I missed the GT350 flat one that was on e-pay a few years back - I assumed that you got it but I seem to remember when I asked you about it at one of the SAAC conventions you said you missed that one too.
#0071 added to list
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on March 07, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 15, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
Hi All,
Just a quick note to add 0017 to the list also. After looking at this list maybe someone should ask if anyone has seen or got pictures of a G.T.500 with a flat cap that was built prior to Jan 1967.
We know of only 2 well documented ones to this point.....any others known ??? Still looks like they made less than 90 as a total.Cut off date seems to be early January 1967 for all cars.
Regards R.R.
My GT500 is less than 15 before you and It was convex with NO upper scoop lamps.
Eight Barrel,
I think RR has car #0024. Is you car really a lower number than that with out these features?
If you don't want to share the number can you tell us when was it built?
It's in the mid 100's. It's in the gap.
Quote from: Richstang on March 07, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on March 07, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 15, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
Hi All,
Just a quick note to add 0017 to the list also. After looking at this list maybe someone should ask if anyone has seen or got pictures of a G.T.500 with a flat cap that was built prior to Jan 1967.
We know of only 2 well documented ones to this point.....any others known ??? Still looks like they made less than 90 as a total.Cut off date seems to be early January 1967 for all cars.
Regards R.R.
My GT500 is less than 15 before you and It was convex with NO upper scoop lamps.
Eight Barrel,
I think RR has car #0024. Is you car really a lower number than that with out these features?
If you don't want to share the number can you tell us when was it built?
Hello Rich,
Keith (1967 eight barrel) states on another thread that his car is a November 1966 GT500. According to the registry, it must be 0171. It is the only GT500 in addition to 0100, 0131, and 0139 that has Ford build date in November 1966.
Thanks,
Eric
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on March 08, 2018, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: Richstang on March 07, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on March 07, 2018, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 15, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
Hi All,
Just a quick note to add 0017 to the list also. After looking at this list maybe someone should ask if anyone has seen or got pictures of a G.T.500 with a flat cap that was built prior to Jan 1967.
We know of only 2 well documented ones to this point.....any others known ??? Still looks like they made less than 90 as a total.Cut off date seems to be early January 1967 for all cars.
Regards R.R.
My GT500 is less than 15 before you and It was convex with NO upper scoop lamps.
Eight Barrel,
I think RR has car #0024. Is you car really a lower number than that with out these features?
If you don't want to share the number can you tell us when was it built?
Hello Rich,
Keith (1967 eight barrel) states on another thread that his car is a November 1966 GT500. According to the registry, it must be 0171. It is the only GT500 in addition to 0100, 0131, and 0139 that has Ford build date in November 1966.
Thanks,
Eric
Hi Eric,
If it is #171, having a 1/19/67 SA completion date would certainly put it outside the range for a flat gas cap or the upper scoop lights.
Thanks,
Rich
Updated the list (in 1st post) with #00067
:)
Hello Rich,
I have attached a crisp photo of the rear end of car number 0050. I believe this photo is probably one of very few if not the only clearly legible original color photo of a production flat gas cap and emblem in existence today.
Best regards,
Eric
VERY, VERY, NICE!!!
Thanks for sharing, Eric!
#0012 added to the list.
Thanks Randy!
Hi 67 Fans,
Just a few comments-0017 should be on this list. Also I am thinking 0003 was built with a flat cap and it was changed along with much of the interior to look more 1968.
Would like to also ask if anyone out there knows of any cars on the following list as the owners are in the registry but have not been to any conventions/shows recently.
0007-0049-0053-0059-0060-0065-0072-0075. And the 2 cars that are real different would be Lowells and 0176 both really not part of Shelbys official count of 1967 production.
Thanks in advance R.R.
Quote from: Road Reptile on August 20, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Hi 67 Fans,
Just a few comments-0017 should be on this list. Also I am thinking 0003 was built with a flat cap and it was changed along with much of the interior to look more 1968.
Would like to also ask if anyone out there knows of any cars on the following list as the owners are in the registry but have not been to any conventions/shows recently.
0007 -0049 -0053 -0059 -0060 -0065 -0072 -0075. And the 2 cars that are real different would be Lowells and 0176 both really not part of Shelbys official count of 1967 production.
Thanks in advance R.R.
R.R,
#00017 appeared to have a curved gas cap emblem in a older photo. I left it off the list until we get more info about it.
It likely was built with a flat emblem, especially with an October completion date.
I have not seen any current photos of any of the cars you requested;
#00059 was sold some time back and I was not able to grab the large photo versions. The ad is still available, but it does not shows any back views.
https://www.specialtysales.com/vehicles/1967-gt350-1011
#00060 was posted on the forum some time back, in an old photo.
It showed the flat tail panel was replaced with a raised panel version and it had a curved gas cap emblem at that time.
Hopefully someone with one of these cars will see your request and respond with updates.
Quote from: Road Reptile on August 20, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Hi 67 Fans,
Just a few comments-0017 should be on this list. Also I am thinking 0003 was built with a flat cap and it was changed along with much of the interior to look more 1968.
Would like to also ask if anyone out there knows of any cars on the following list as the owners are in the registry but have not been to any conventions/shows recently.
0007-0049-0053-0059-0060-0065-0072-0075. And the 2 cars that are real different would be Lowells and 0176 both really not part of Shelbys official count of 1967 production.
Thanks in advance R.R.
The photos I've seen of #59 do not show the rear of the car, don't have anything on the rest.
Quote from: Road Reptile on August 20, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Hi 67 Fans,
Just a few comments-0017 should be on this list. Also I am thinking 0003 was built with a flat cap and it was changed along with much of the interior to look more 1968.
Would like to also ask if anyone out there knows of any cars on the following list as the owners are in the registry but have not been to any conventions/shows recently.
0007-0049-0053-0059-0060-0065-0072-0075. And the 2 cars that are real different would be Lowells and 0176 both really not part of Shelbys official count of 1967 production.
Thanks in advance R.R.
Attached is a color photo of V7382 from the Fall of 1966. Photo by Sid Avery.
Thanks
Lowell
It did. No replacements available when I got into the restoration as well.
-Keith
We haven't talked about flat gas cap emblems in a long time. So...
Anyone know a car that had one and is not on our page one list?
Car #60 did have a flat gas cap when Joe Bopp purchased it. I believe he put the later style cap on it when the car was painted, due to the fact that there was no flat cap emblem available.
I own # 61
It has a flat gas cap
Updated the list in the first post with the addition of #0027 having a flat gas cap
Very minor correction, but #0083 actually had a completion date of 10/22/66. Thanks!
Quote from: 67#0083 on July 18, 2021, 11:59:57 AM
Very minor correction, but #0083 actually had a completion date of 10/22/66. Thanks!
Respectfully, the
San Jose Build Date on #83 was 10/22/66 the
Shelby Completion Date was 11/5/66
JD, thank you for respectfully correcting my incorrect correction. I stand corrected!!! 😂