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Title: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Bigblock on February 06, 2018, 12:28:45 PM
Since the Bullitt car has shown up a club member with a body shop has bought two 68 390 GT fastbacks and is going to make them into Bullitt cars and cash in on the publicity. Both cars have 6K tachs and he thinks that someone removed the 8K tachs. My info to him was only Shelbys and 68.5s came with 8K tachs. He says any 68 GT Mustang got an 8K tach since that's what the Bullitt has. What is the real story on what got an 8K tach? :-\
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: gt350hr on February 06, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
    390 or less =6,000
    428CJ or PI =8,000

      Is "my" understanding. Others may have a different opinion.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: stangman39 on February 06, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
Are the cars autos or 4spds?
Auto cars you had to order the tach as an option, 4spds it came standard.
I think all 68s had the 8K tach but as we know Ford did interesting things. 
Maybe some 6Ks were left over from 67 and used?
I personally think a 8K tach with a 390 is funny because you really don't get them over 6K anyway!
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Bigblock on February 06, 2018, 02:41:58 PM
4 speeds
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: OldMil on February 06, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
All of the 390 GT cars 67/68 that I've has came with the 6K tach...auto, or 4 speed
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: shelbydoug on February 06, 2018, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: gt350hr on February 06, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
    390 or less =6,000
    428CJ or PI =8,000

      Is "my" understanding. Others may have a different opinion.

My 68 GT350 has an 8,000 rpm tach.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Wedgeman on February 06, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
I have never seen a 67 or 68 390 Mustang with an 8 grand tach...4 speed or Automatic....however, since McQueen had a 67 Shelby steering wheel installed in the Bullitt car...he could have easily had an 8 grand tach..140 speedo....installed.... ;D
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: 68stangcjfb on February 06, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
The Bullitt car has a 120 mph speedometer. It's highly unlikely the tach was changed out but not the speedometer. But like they say. Anything is possible.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 06, 2018, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 06, 2018, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: gt350hr on February 06, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
    390 or less =6,000
    428CJ or PI =8,000

      Is "my" understanding. Others may have a different opinion.

My 68 GT350 has an 8,000 rpm tach.
That's because it is a Shelby. 67/68 GT350 got 8k tachs.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Vcode on February 07, 2018, 06:22:39 AM
I had a 68 Mustang GT with a 390 4-speed had a 8,000 tach.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Bigblock on February 07, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
Could the 8K tach have been an option in 68?
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: gt350hr on February 07, 2018, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: Bigblock on February 07, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
Could the 8K tach have been an option in 68?

       No option for the 8K tach on a 390. It's an anomaly or someone added/replaced it.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: Vcode on February 07, 2018, 12:15:30 PM
The 68 Mustang brochure on pg 12 shows a 8,000 tach and states available with any V8.

For 67 only the 289 Hi-Po got the 8,000 - the other V8' s got the 6,000.
All Shelby's were 8,000.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: gt350hr on February 07, 2018, 05:49:57 PM
   Vcode ,
       I believe that was a "stock'' photo of the Mustang tach option in general. Ralley Packs were often pictured that way too. Similar deal 8K  for K code only in 65-66. I'm sticking with that until I see a "Marti" that shows the option on a non 428 powered Mustang.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: shelbydoug on February 08, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
If I am not mistaken (this time), I don't remember any references to the tach on the build sheet. With all due respect to Mr.Gaines (genuflected when I said that), I HAVE seen 68 Shelbys with 6,000 rpm tachs, way, way, way in the past.

There is also something about some with "redlines" and others without?

This was a long, long time ago when I got yelled at to get a hair cut and my pants were too tight? Way before anyone was reproducing anything (except maybe kids). So long ago, I don't even recognize me in the pictures?

So my PREDICTION is that this will remain unsolved even though this thread may linger on for years?
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: OldMil on February 08, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 06, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
The Bullitt car has a 120 mph speedometer. It's highly unlikely the tach was changed out but not the speedometer. But like they say. Anything is possible.
Having a factory tach did not mean the car came with a 140MPH speedo if that is what is being inferred.  Two of my 68.5 CJ fastbacks came with a factory 120 MPH (both with trip) and an 8K tach.  On another of my 68.5 CJ cars, the marti report says "tach with trip speedo" but does not specify which tach, or which speedo.  My other martis do not have this noted, but I know the cars came so equiped.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: 68stangcjfb on February 08, 2018, 05:23:26 PM
What I was trying to imply is if the bullitt cars tach was changed (which I personally don't believe), it probably would have been easier to get a whole dashboard from a Shelby since the car has a deluxe interior rather than taking the dash in the car apart to change the tach. The fact the 120 speedometer is still there would suggest the tach is original to the car. This is my opinion and my opinion only. I do not wish to get into an argument if someone has a different opinion than me.  My 68 1\2 also has the 120 trip Speedo & 8000 no redline tach. It is not original to my car but it did come from a 4 speed 68 1/2.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: OldMil on February 09, 2018, 11:08:46 AM
No argument- just a point.  My CJ's also did not have the red line....Cheers!
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: shelbydoug on February 09, 2018, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 08, 2018, 05:23:26 PM
What I was trying to imply is if the bullitt cars tach was changed (which I personally don't believe), it probably would have been easier to get a whole dashboard from a Shelby since the car has a deluxe interior rather than taking the dash in the car apart to change the tach. The fact the 120 speedometer is still there would suggest the tach is original to the car. This is my opinion and my opinion only. I do not wish to get into an argument if someone has a different opinion than me.  My 68 1\2 also has the 120 trip Speedo & 8000 no redline tach. It is not original to my car but it did come from a 4 speed 68 1/2.

Why change anything on it at all except what the camera would see? It was just a prop for the movie.

Racing it through the streets of San Francisco is not the same as prepping it for competition.

It could hardly go around a corner and the Charger driver had to keep waiting for Mcqueen to catch up.

They intended to wreck it so why bother with little details like a tach?

Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: 68stangcjfb on February 09, 2018, 03:23:34 PM
My point exactly! That's why I believe the dash is original and obviously some 390s had 8000 rpm tachometers.
Title: Re: Final word on 68 tachs
Post by: gt350hr on February 09, 2018, 03:44:37 PM
   The cars were special ordered right? That may be the reason. 428 CJ 4spd Mustangs had a 120 speedo with 8K tach . Tach was optional on the  auto trans cars. My R code 4 spd has the 120/8K combination.