CSX3190 in 2010
Does this count???
Photos at the 3-Dog Garage of their 2 recently restored beauties. CSX3010 and ??? (I don't have it noted)
These are "original image" size, you may have to zoom out a little to see the full photos.
(https://i.imgur.com/MI30EdH.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/5zAkgnH.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/S65gmXc.jpg)
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and one from SAAC-33:
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Quote from: mark p on February 11, 2018, 02:07:51 PM
Photos at the 3-Dog Garage of their 2 recently restored beauties. CSX3010 and ??? (I don't have it noted)
These are "original image" size, you may have to zoom out a little to see the full photos.
(https://i.imgur.com/S65gmXc.jpg)
I have the second car noted as csx3261. That was a great day at the 3Dog Garage!!!
^^^ Thanks Rich, I was hoping that someone would "fill in the blanks" 8)
Quote from: G.Pellegrino on January 23, 2018, 07:55:39 PM
Does this count???
Hey they all didn't live a sheltered life :o
Dan - do you remember the #??
Quote from: mark p on February 16, 2018, 11:40:43 PM
Dan - do you remember the #??
Ummm ya BUT maybe the new owner wouldn't like to see his car like this. I believe he has owned it since the very early 80s.
My first thought when seeing the picture of the shell being walked was Flintstone car.
not sure but I think these are all eltee 's 427 maybe he will chime in with the history again
dealer
On the old forum Coralsnake ? posted this photo for me that I took at Mosport in Canada in 1967.I think this was eltee's car ? and he told a story about that trip to Canada ?
Mike
I cant believe after he destroyed a 289 cobra and walked away a 427 was the replacement ....... but hey he still has it. I could not find the pictures of the 289 car.
Quote from: honker on February 17, 2018, 10:25:00 PM
On the old forum Coralsnake ? posted this photo for me that I took at Mosport in Canada in 1967.I think this was eltee's car ? and he told a story about that trip to Canada ?
Mike
Buy the way, is Eltee still on the forum, have not seen or heard from him in a while
gt350shelb, Is this Eltee's 289 car your talking about ? In the one pic of the crash you can see the nose of a '66 Oldsmobile Toronado, I think that same car is in the photos of the red 427 in post # 10 on the previous page.
In my files I have the red 427 marked as CSX 3324 ? ? is that correct ? ?
Mike
If these photos should be on another thread, I can delete and move, but thought they are relevant to the discussion here ?
That is a 289 Cobra
In my post I do say that it is a crashed 289.
Perhaps I confused the matter by talking about the Olds Toronado and the red 427 car in post #10 on the previous page ???
Posted those pics because gt350shelb mentioned this incident, I don't know my Cobras well enough to judge if the crashed car is a CSX 3000 car :-\ I need some education on the different series .
Mike
Quote from: honker on February 19, 2018, 02:29:10 PM
gt350shelb, Is this Eltee's 289 car your talking about ? In the one pic of the crash you can see the nose of a '66 Oldsmobile Toronado, I think that same car is in the photos of the red 427 in post # 10 on the previous page.
In my files I have the red 427 marked as CSX 3324 ? ? is that correct ? ?
Mike
If these photos should be on another thread, I can delete and move, but thought they are relevant to the discussion here ?
Yep, that's the 289 that Eltee crashed in high school. Owing to his salesmanship, Eltee convinced his father to purchased a 427 for him to attend college. ;)
Photos are of Eltee's CSX 2389, which is still out there.
yep csx3324 in my notes
Quote from: A-Snake on February 19, 2018, 03:59:41 PM
Yep, that's the 289 that Eltee crashed in high school. Owing to his salesmanship, Eltee convinced his father to purchased a 427 for him to attend college. ;)
This must have taken place in the universe that is Parallel to the one I am in. :o
Quote from: 2112 on February 19, 2018, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: A-Snake on February 19, 2018, 03:59:41 PM
Yep, that's the 289 that Eltee crashed in high school. Owing to his salesmanship, Eltee convinced his father to purchased a 427 for him to attend college. ;)
This must have taken place in the universe that is Parallel to the one I am in. :o
That universe is orthogonal to mine. Not even close.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on February 19, 2018, 06:27:28 PM
Photos are of Eltee's CSX 2389, which is still out there.
Still as a coupe or is it now a roadster again?
Quote from: 67_1183 on February 19, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
That universe is orthogonal to mine. Not even close.
It took an act of God to get my parents to upgrade from an electric mower (with 100ft cord) to a snapper with a 3 hp Briggs and Stratton).
2389 is still in its metamorphosis phase as a coupe these days.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on February 20, 2018, 10:34:07 AM
2389 is still in its metamorphosis phase as a coupe these days.
Even an elephant doesn't have a gestation this long?
Keep hoping it's going to shed its carapace and go topless...
CSX3006 is currently on display at the Toronto auto show:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4611/25438458957_ae9891f7ee_b.jpg)
So are CSX2026 and GT40 P/1080, but they don't fit the subject of this thread.
3353 getting closer.
Great pictures, thanks for posting.
The blue street car you posted is 3354 next numerical car from Phil'.
Thanks for posting the pictures.
Quote from: Grumpy on February 17, 2018, 07:40:33 AM...... BUT maybe the new owner wouldn't like to see his car like this.
History is history best not to try to ignore/rewrite it. Too many of these cars have been rebuilt from a tag or 1 part. I'd guess that there are at least 50 air cars in the mix. Ned probably knows which ones and many stories.
Info from A-Snake that this is CSX 3270, at the time of this photo, 1984 was owned by Dwight Dehne from Toronto Canada. I think this car had a cammer in it at some point ?
I only have the Mustang registry, could someone scan the history for this car from the Cobra registry and PM it to me ?
thanks, Mike
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/426-040418115018.jpeg)
3270 used to belong to Carter Gette, a wealthy Ford dealer in Millbrook, NY who played with a lot of Cobras back in the 60's - 70's. He did install a cammer 427 and used to wind the engine well past what most people would have dared.
Dang spell check!
Yep!
Quote from: Cobra Ned on April 22, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
3270 used to belong to Carter Gette, a wealthy Ford dealer in Millbrook, NY who played with a lot of Cobras back in the 60's - 70's. He did install a cammer 427 and used to wind the engine well past what most people would have dared.
Ha! If you ever wanted to know what a steel 427 crankshaft looks like after crashing through the oil pan, and embedding itself into the asphalt, Carter knew. ;)
here's a pic of the cammer in 3270, august '72, Reading PA..Shelby meet ?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/426-230418154018.jpeg)
(no credit for photo)
Someone posted this polaroid for sale on eBay.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/196-300418204129.jpeg)
It's a generic narrow-hip 427 in dark green, but unless you have more data - such as a VIN - the photo isn't worth much.
Would any of these denote any particluar VIN range?
Fender-mounted side mirror
Rectangular taillights
Halibrands in place of Sunburst wheels
Lets see if i remember this correctly? Rectangular tailights on on the first and second group of 427's.
CSX 3000's and CSX 3100's. I believe the round tailights begin somewhere in the CSX 3200's and are used until the end of production.
The "narrow hip 427's" are a group of I think 25 cars in the CSX 3100's. I want to say in the 3125 to 3150 or so but in that area rather then the end of the 3100's.
Apparently they were a "test run" of sorts to gauge customer opinion as an alternative to the big rear flares and the 7" wide Sunburst wheels.
The narrow fender cars got voted off of the island. ;)
I do remember a period of time in the early '70s when "Cobra discovery" was going on and some were questioning the narrow hip cars as not original cars.
I remember Tony Hogg having a silver one while he was editor of Road & Track mag. I think it was a CSX3140 something car? Maybe 3142?
I used to be able to do this without a Registry. I'm sure Ned still can? Is time and distance the same as old age and senility?
Found this on the ClubCobra site, from back in 2012, it is suggested Tony Hogg's car was # 3154 ? ?
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/era-speak-bob-putnam/116342-tony-hogg-road-track-editor-old-csx-427-car.html
Mike
3154 according to the Registry. You had to make me open the book huh? ;)
There were 13 green narrow-hip 427s built, between chassis numbers 3129 and 3158. This photo could be of any one of those, unless there were some way to identify where/ when the shot was taken and narrow down the possibilities. Even if we could ID the VIN, the photo probably only has value to the car's current owner.
shelbydoug, thanks for the confirmation on 3154 , sorry for making you open the registry ;)
I know what you mean about time and distance, or old age and senility.
I was heavy into competition Ferraris at one time, never owned one, but if you threw a chassis number at me I could tell you the history of that car, not any more ! now I have to pull a book off the shelf, I get more pleasure from that I think, then looking things up on the 'net.
Mike
Just a guess as to the location of that pix, but it looks similar to house styles in the SoCal area, in those days.
Yes, I realize that's extremely slim to no evidence.
Quote from: gt350shelb on February 17, 2018, 06:31:58 PM
not sure but I think these are all eltee 's 427 maybe he will chime in with the history again
....you could'a left that last one off there...or at least dialed 911
Accidental self banishment...not sure if I remember how to navigate...:/
Quote from: honker on May 02, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
shelbydoug, thanks for the confirmation on 3154 , sorry for making you open the registry ;)
I know what you mean about time and distance, or old age and senility.
I was heavy into competition Ferraris at one time, never owned one, but if you threw a chassis number at me I could tell you the history of that car, not any more ! now I have to pull a book off the shelf, I get more pleasure from that I think, then looking things up on the 'net.
Mike
I had the job of "Cobra Registrar" back under the old Cobra Club. The President, Bruce Jodar, called it the "Historian". Probably with a little tongue in cheek?
It was pretty easy to instantly remember details of cars. It had something to do with instant acceptance of the CSX chassis number.
I suppose you could say, I got over that?
I don't think Ned ever has?
Some of the street cars were like clones of each other but even by 1974 or so many had distinguishing "marks" that set them apart.
It's said that a mother duck can distinguish the ducklings from each other by their voices? I wonder if that's how Scudder does it? ;D
He's struggling to emerge...but...Uh..UH...can't seem to get his photos to post.
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Still sexy after all these years
Quaker State Station back in the day....1968...Clarion, PA
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CSX3131 at Amelia Island - March 11 2017
This Cobra continues to keep my attention. I love these narrow hips.
(Should it have Sunbursts?)
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-180618105454-1521299.jpeg)
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-180618105455-15511798.jpeg)
Yes on the Sunbursts.
My God those cars are pretty!!! :)
Very nice pictures, thank you for posting them.
Quote from: CSX2259 on June 18, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
Yes on the Sunbursts.
Nope. All the street cars delivered in the fall of '65 came with the 7.5" Halibrand "Cobra II" wheels. The Sunburst wheels, which were designed by Peter Brock and manufactured by Kelsey-Hayes, weren't ready until very late in '65, hence only cars delivered after then came with them. They came about because they were less expensive for Shelby than the wheels he was buying from Halibrand.
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Yet another beautiful narrow hip Cobra. This was the cover photo on SAAC's Facebook page.
Surprisingly, I wasn't able to ID the CSX number even with the CA plate.
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COX6111, a AC 289 Sport.
^^
Thanks you sir!
CSX3031 in the showroom at Legendary Motorcar, Oct 2014
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Beautiful pictures, thanks for posting them.
Technically not a "CSX3000" car, COB6127 is an original AC 289 Sports "Cobra" that was converted to LHD and had its 327 (289) stroker replaced with a Holman & Moody 427FE. It is currently for sale in Montreal: www.johnscotticlassiccars.com/en/used/1967-ac-cobra-cob6127-contact-john-scotti/10717477/
(https://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/62980599-770-0@2X.jpg?rev=1)
Great pics - thanks! 👍🏻
Let's see I f the market knows anything. That's a pile of money for this car.
It certainly has been through a fair number of owners over the years.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/547-080718124112.jpeg)
This is 3239 at Shelton Sports Cars in Ft Lauderdale in the mid 90s. They either bought or consigned it from Dr Segu in PA. Apparently he didn't drive a stick and the car had been idle for some time. I was told vermin had nested in the side pipes. It had about 5000 miles on it when I bought it and was a very good car. It did need some mechanical attention so we built a high horsepower 427 for it and freshened the mechanicals. That engine may still be in the car. I sold it at B-J around 2000 for $227,500 hammer. We've come a long way.
Looks like I'll have to resize my pics.
CSX3239 has since been restored to street spec. It was bid to $1.0 million USD at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale 2018, but did not sell.
https://azure.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SHELBY-COBRA-CSX3239-ROADSTER-212962
Quote from: PhilS on July 08, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
Looks like I'll have to resize my pics.
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A few photos of CSX3022, an original 427S/C "semi-competition" roadster, taken by me at the Cobra Experience museum in Martinez CA, June 2015.
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Great! Thanks for posting these photo's.
I've "known" that car from before it was delivered new. VERY interesting to see it's current condition.
Dmxf, I was not aware of that. It would certainly be a plus in the current environment of correctness. The car has recently sold btw.
3251 back in the early 80s when we first got it.
CSX3218 in 1971, Robert Moore just purchased it from the woman in the photo who I believe was getting divorced. Mike, the boy in the photos, sent me these a few months ago I have one more.
The day I got to drive the 198 car....
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Was wet, then it got dry...a perfect Fall day
Eltee, I guess the real question is, did you get me any chocolate? :D
Sorry Ned.....I had it, but.......I ate it :/
Best part, even the shampoo smells like chocolate...
and the chocolate martinis at the hotel...prettydamngood
Next year:/
hmmm... no one has posted for a while. I was digging around and thought of these pix from 3-Dog Garage:
(https://i.imgur.com/5zAkgnH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MI30EdH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S65gmXc.jpg)
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For anyone keeping track, the black car above is CSX 3010 and the green one is CSX 3261.
3132
Quote from: Cobra Ned on March 31, 2020, 02:37:27 PM
For anyone keeping track, the black car above is CSX 3010 and the green one is CSX 3261.
Thanks Ned.
Here is the sign describing the the Black Car:
(https://i.imgur.com/4GN2haT.jpg?1)
Several photos I took of CSX3010 at SAAC 44.
Let's step back in time. Set the Wayback Machine to 1972. Here are shots of a 427 Cobra in the Wilkes-Barre, PA area from 1972. This car and the Mustang behind it were apparently parked at Andy's Esso station for several years. Maybe Andy owned both? The Cobra reportedly had a Holman-Moody modified engine and the owner felt it made the car unsafe. Don't know who modified the hood. Surely someone here knows more???
Quote from: Cobra Ned on May 16, 2020, 05:16:49 PM
... Set the Wayback Machine to 1972. .. The Cobra reportedly had a Holman-Moody modified engine and the owner felt it made the car unsafe.
"unsafe" = probably a lot of fun in this case? ::)
Yeah, probably was a LOT of fun. I was just quoting a friend who took the pictures many years ago, based on what he was told at the gas station. It sure would be nice to find someone from the area who could fill us in on more details.
here's one I had not seen before: CSX3109
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49895079408_28db03b9e2_b.jpg)
Here's a shot of CSX 3107, which was recently sold through Northwest Euro in Washington state:
3107 looks like a skinny fender car? 3109 doesn't. Is it the tire size?
I suspect is is more likely due to major body work following a crash. Note the width of the front flare at its leading edge. And the rears do appear to have been worked on.
Which one is right?
Doug, if I understand your question, the contours of the body of 3109 are more correct than those on 3107.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on June 11, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
Doug, if I understand your question, the contours of the body of 3109 are more correct than those on 3107.
From before I even saw a 427 Cobra up close in detail, I'd hear owners "debating" about how other cars were "wrong". They were talking about things like the rear fender flares and how CSX 3200 cars with 428s weren't "real Cobras".
I suppose the term "more correct" is consistent with that "Cobra social etiquette"? ;D
This isn't a complaint by me. Just an acknowledgement of, "that's just the way it is" and I suppose part of the mystique to the Cobra?
I will always value and seek out your friendly yet factual views on Cobras. Thank you.
Let's acknowledge that there were a few different flare configurations and the cars did vary somewhat. But the idea the the 428 cars weren't real Cobras is silly. They were built on the same assembly line at AC Cars and Shelby American, so...
Other than it's 1976 in Dearborn, MI. I don't remember much about this car.
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Quote from: Cobra Ned on June 12, 2020, 10:19:31 AM
Let's acknowledge that there were a few different flare configurations and the cars did vary somewhat. But the idea the the 428 cars weren't real Cobras is silly. They were built on the same assembly line at AC Cars and Shelby American, so...
Of course but it seems that every CSX 3000 car is different in fender configuration even one number apart.
The 289's are at least consistent. That is if you don't compare the left side of the car to the right side? ???
Quote from: jguyer on June 12, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Other than it's 1976 in Dearborn, MI. I don't remember much about this car.
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I'll take a guess and say it's CSX3274.
Thread on Ken Miles with CSX3002 at Lakeside Australia, November '65. Couple of another Cobra as well, not sure if it's a 3000 ?
Mike
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?556-Ken-Miles-and-CSX3002-427-Competition-Cobra-at-Lakeside-1965
The other Cobra is COB 6033 formerly owned by Ron Thorp.
https://www.bowdensown.com.au/collection/ron-thorps-1964-ac-shelby-cobra (https://www.bowdensown.com.au/collection/ron-thorps-1964-ac-shelby-cobra)
CSX3001 - The Bordinat Cobra, aka XD Cobra, was a Ford styling concept built on a coil-spring 427 Cobra chassis. The car was powered by a 289 Hi-Po V8 engine mated to a 3-speed automatic transmission, and the body was vacuum formed from Royalex composite material. The car was shown at the 1965 Detroit auto show.
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Beautiful design, Especially the coupe.
Tail lights look similar to the ones on the '63-'64 Riviera. :)
Scott.
CSX3159 aprox. 1981, I wonder if the little guy is a Shelby fan ?
Mike
I suspect he is. I imagine he also misses his dad, Carl Mentz, who left us in July. RIP, Carl.
Very sorry to hear Carl Mentz has passed away. He was a good guy.
Quote from: Cobrabob on October 14, 2020, 04:46:36 PM
Very sorry to hear Carl Mentz has passed away. He was a good guy.
+1 :(
Ken Miles 1965 Lakeside Raceway , Queensland, Australia
I was probs there that day. would have been 7yo
Pictures of CSX3134 taken at a car lot in Beverly Hills about 40 years ago.
Cinturato CN36's.....magnifique
I'm thinking that was at the Rodeo Coach dealership.
That sounds correct. I was trying to remember the name of the lot, but it was escaping me. There was a Lamborghini there as well, but the only car that meant much to me was the Cobra. My fiancee ( now wife of almost 40 years) and I were visiting my sister in So. California and we stumbled upon this car. I had been looking for a Shelby for a couple years at this point, but a 289 Cobra was running about $30,000 and a 427 Cobra around $60.000. We bought our '67 GT500 about 2 1/2 years later for $7800. A far cry from what a Cobra was bringing in those days, but still a pretty good stretch for a 22 year old kid in 1982! $60,000 in those days was like $1,000,000 today!
Rodeo Coach supposedly sold it for $70k, so the time frame sounds correct. When I was 23, I only had to come up with $5500 for a 289 roadster. A stretch, yes, but thankfully well before the prices managed to rise right out of sight. Glad I got in when I did, even though just about everyone said I was nuts. I believe in the slogan "He who laughs last, laughs best." :D
Very true! People thought I was crazy buying a 15 year old Mustang for 50% more than it sold for new! Glad I hung on to it through all the years. There were times when it was tempting to sell it, when we bought our house, put daughters through college.......Managed to keep it and I'm driving it to breakfast this morning!
Quote from: pbf777 on September 23, 2020, 01:27:33 PM
Tail lights look similar to the ones on the '63-'64 Riviera. :)
Scott.
Mercury units
Hello Everyone,
Here are some photos of 427 Cobras and a 289 Cobra that are remembered as "royalty" in the history of the RMVR vintage races that were held on the streets of Steamboat Springs, Colorado from 1984-1998. The first photo (1986) shows CSX3261 owned and driven by Chek Beuf on the left, CSX3274 in the middle owned by Dave Murray and driven by Bill Murray, and CSX2226 on the right which at that time was owned and driven by Dave Lipsky. Bill Murray won the race in 1984 driving CSX2226. He sold the car (CSX2226) to Dave Lipsky who won the race in 1985, 1989, and 1990. Bill Murray won the race in 1986, 1987, and 1998 driving CSX3274. Bob Bondurant won the race in 1988 when he was invited to drive CSX3261.
The second photo shows CSX3274 as it looked in 1987. The third photo shows Bob Bondurant in CSX3261 after winning the race in 1988. The last photo shows Bill Murray in CSX3274 on his way to winning the race in 1998.
Thanks,
Eric
Here is 3017, the Supersnake twin Paxton car before being painted back to blue for the BJ Auction where it sold for $5.5 m. It was black when we recieved it and had a whole 3 weeks to get it done for the auction catalog.
Here are a few more of 3017 before auction
Quote from: AZFAST1 on January 02, 2021, 09:23:37 PM
Here is 3017, the Supersnake twin Paxton car before being painted back to blue for the BJ Auction where it sold for $5.5 m. It was black when we recieved it and had a whole 3 weeks to get it done for the auction catalog.
That is CSX3015 not 3017
Quote from: AZFAST1 on January 02, 2021, 09:26:50 PM
Here are a few more of 3017 before auction
Again, this is CSX3015 ;)
Were Aeroquip fittings available and used back then?
If not, was it just steel fuel line?
2112: I don't know if such A/N fittings were available back then. (Doubtful on the braided stainless line.)
I kinda think the silicone spark plug wires were not.
Looks like that driver's side carb is running a little fat.
A-snake, sorry you are obviously correct! I was going on poor memory!
Thanks, Glenn
We also painted 3017 quite a while ago, which is why my other post had that number, had them confused!
Yes, I believe Aeroquip Fittings were available (back then) but more of a borrowed product from the aircraft industry rather than product marketed so directly to the automotive racing scene as took place later.
But those are definitely more "modern" Holleys in place! :(
Although the use of the Edelbrock X-F66 cross ram 8V intake was what was available "on the shelf" at the time to execute the desired separation of the two Paxtons and their respective cylinder responsibilities, it unfortunately does not provide an even spacing of intake valve actuation events to each individual plenum, as would a true 180° intake manifold if it were utilized; otherwise one would/could apply a 180° "Flat" crankshaft to "fix" the intake manifold shortcomings. ;)
But then,........... it's just not a perfect world, is it! ::)
Scott.
I have this in my files as CSX3015 ? ? Is this right ? If not will correct the post. I think this was on Forum 1 ?
Mike
(photo AmCarGuide.com)
I think it's Guardsman blue.
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 28, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
I think it's Guardsman blue.
If you mean CSX3015 today, no that is a bright metallic blue painted by Harley Cluxton. At one point it was black.
Quote from: A-Snake on March 28, 2021, 03:47:07 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 28, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
I think it's Guardsman blue.
If you mean CSX3015 today, no that is a bright metallic blue painted by Harley Cluxton. At one point it was black.
Some of these cars seem to have had so many previous lives, it's difficult for me to keep up with them.
My memory of it was when it was apart in the "body shop" in CA, and still "owned" by Jim Webb. I remember it as Guardsman blue, but memory, like youth and hope is fleeting.
Quote from: honker on March 28, 2021, 11:00:53 AM
I have this in my files as CSX3015 ? ? Is this right ? If not will correct the post. I think this was on Forum 1 ?
Mike
(photo AmCarGuide.com)
You have it right. That's how 3015 looked when it sat for a number of tears at a shop in Sylmar, CA.
Hello Everyone,
Here are three photos that I took of CSX3305 at the last Colorado SAAC event held at Continental Divide Raceway near Castle Rock, Colorado in September of 1983. Bill Murray had done quite a bit of work on this car. I think it was mid afternoon when the owner, Ken Wilhelm, asked Bill to take him for a few laps around the track. Bill really wanted to show Ken what the car was capable of, and he really had the car flying around the track. I distinctly remember Ken's face being white as a sheet when he and a grinning Bill returned to the paddock area. The first photo shows Bill and Ken coming back into the paddock. The second and third photos are of the 427 SOHC engine in this car.
Thanks,
Eric
Thanks for posting the photos of CSX3305 with the SOHC motor.
CSX3270 also had a Cammer at one time, but not when I saw it here in Canada.
Does any one have an idea as to how many Cobras had SOHC engine installed in their life time, I don't think any came from Shelby
with one ?
Quote from: honker on March 29, 2021, 04:10:28 PM
Thanks for posting the photos of CSX3305 with the SOHC motor.
CSX3270 also had a Cammer at one time, but not when I saw it here in Canada.
Does any one have an idea as to how many Cobras had SOHC engine installed in their life time, I don't think any came from Shelby with one ?
I shot this photo of CSX3208 at Hershey in 1977. Sorry for the poor quality but the negative got damaged.
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Plain to see
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^^ nice - two ways to "fly" 8)
CSX 3066
https://www.beckerautogroup.com/inventory-vehicles/1965-shelby-cobra-427-s-c-csx3066
I think the title of this thread was meant to include original CSX3xxx cars. Not present-day replicas. ;)
happier times CSX 2389
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Quote from: eltee on April 23, 2021, 11:08:49 PM
Plain to see
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The subtlety of your car is growing on me.
LT, don't let any kids drive that pretty blue 289 car at night on empty country roads. Never know what might happen... :(
Quote from: honker on March 29, 2021, 04:10:28 PM
Thanks for posting the photos of CSX3305 with the SOHC motor.
CSX3270 also had a Cammer at one time, but not when I saw it here in Canada.
Does any one have an idea as to how many Cobras had SOHC engine installed in their life time, I don't think any came from Shelby
with one ?
Friend of mine has a white one that when he bought it years ago out of Va the seller offered the car either with the cammer that was in it or the orig 428.....he got the orig 428.....
Run offs Road Atlanta
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I believe this is CSX3052 wadded up, these two images were in a group of photos (only four of which had Shelbys in them) in a link
posted by 1179/jon , id'd as Willow Springs, but Side-Oilers is correct that the crashed car is at Riverside in '68, can any one put a
# to the yellow car, not sure if it's a 3000, and is it also Willow Springs ? I like the '50s Ford pick . I've included the photos, in case
they get sold.
Mike
https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=373592679630&_ssn=vintagephotograph&_osacat=0&hash=item56fbdbe4ce%3Ag%3AbIEAAOSwqfFgrae1&_odkw=&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=willow+springs&_sacat=0
I think the yellow car is CSX3020. I believe Dave Dralle owned that car then with that paint scheme.
All three photos are from the August 1968 National at Riverside....and the yellow 427 Cobra (3020) is Dave Dralle's as Silverton-Ford had noted.
I agree with the ID of the wrecked Cobra as being CSX 3052. I have put remarkably similar, but different, photos of the wrecked car in the online Registry.
Who's "driving" it now? I'm sure that was "restoreable"?
It was restored the smart way: they bought a used 427 Cobra and used it as the basis for rebuilding the wrecked 3052. And the amalgamation is owned today by the same owner who was lucky to survive the crash in '68.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on May 28, 2021, 09:53:42 AM
It was restored the smart way: they bought a used 427 Cobra and used it as the basis for rebuilding the wrecked 3052. And the amalgamation is owned today by the same owner who was lucky to survive the crash in '68.
"Amalgamation? "
You weren't satisfied with coining "air car"? Now it's an "amalgamation"? OK. Cool. 8)
Very lucky indeed.
CSX3205 - recently refreshed by Mike McCluskey, this original 427 Cobra is going to cross the auction block at Bonhams Quail Lodge event, Aug 13, 2021
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CSX3242 - once owned by Formula 1 race driver, Didier Pironi, this original Shelby 427 Cobra is going to cross the auction block at Bonhams Quail Lodge event, Aug 13, 2021
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I thought Wyoming had trees? Huh?
Here and there...a little higher up:)
Well at least the road is paved.
These photos were id'd as CSX3129 ? ?
Correct - 3129 back in NY circa '69/'70.
marlboro
Betty Hogg's 427 Cobra, CSX 3154. She inherited it from her husband, the late Tony Hogg, in 1983. He bought it in 1967. Its on exhibit at the California Automotive Museum, Sacramento, Betty and Tony's son John does routine maintenance - oil and filters, drain the gas tank, add fresh gas, etc. John and his wife Barbara drove this Cobra around Laguna Seca when Shelby was honored.
My pictures of this car: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjoXfFsR
That is one of the rare "skinny fender 427's".
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I'm thinking that's CSX 3274 with Doug McClellan's MI plate on it. Mid- '70s.
I posted these pictures a couple years ago of CSX 3134 that I took back in about 1979. In more recent pictures that I've seen of the car it has a plain hood with no scoop, in these pics I took it had a little bubble on the hood. I believe the car is now owned by Colin Comer, or was a few years ago. Is it known as to why this hood was put on the car at some point, and did the bubble serve a purpose?
Paxton Supercharged? Hood bump needed for clearance?
Prior owner in CA added a dome instead of a scoop. Was changed quickly.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on December 12, 2023, 10:43:08 AM
I'm thinking that's CSX 3274 with Doug McClellan's MI plate on it. Mid- '70s.
1976 at Ford World HQ. Motor City Region event.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on December 18, 2023, 08:18:56 AM
Prior owner in CA added a dome instead of a scoop. Was changed quickly.
Was there damage that was being repaired, or why was the hood replaced? I assume the original hood would not have had a scoop since that's the way it is now?
427 Cobra pic - taken in early 1970's.
Quote from: mark p on February 11, 2018, 02:07:51 PM
Photos at the 3-Dog Garage of their 2 recently restored beauties. CSX3010 and ??? (I don't have it noted)
These are "original image" size, you may have to zoom out a little to see the full photos.
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great vehicle love that black and gold paint !
CSX3019 in 2023 Goodwood Revival as part of Shelby Parade
CSX3019 last year
Not sure of the VIN
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Looks to be a 289 Cobra? Besides the snout and hood scoop it says "289 Ford Racing" on the side.
Also, there is a GT-E Cougar lurking behind it on the other side of the fence.
Any info on when and where this pic was taken?
- Phillip
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Quote from: propayne on April 02, 2024, 10:08:03 AM
Looks to be a 289 Cobra? Besides the snout and hood scoop it says "289 Ford Racing" on the side.
Also, there is a GT-E Cougar lurking behind it on the other side of the fence.
Any info on when and where this pic was taken?
- Phillip
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Good eye on the GTE!!
These were on Facebook. - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1664188180497375 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1664188180497375)
"May 11th 1968 Cumberland MD races held at the local airport"
The 289 car is CSX2260, The 427 car is CSX3010
I guess Riverside.
I'm sure most know this - but just in case.... GT-E Cougars had unique grills - blacked out with twin horizontal chrome bars running across the middle.
I've sent this pic on to the GT-E Registrar.
- Phillip
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Car spotting addendum
Once again, spotting background cars can be as interesting as the main image imho.
In reply 181 photo, just to the right of the dude in the red jacket is a Mk 1 Cortina with a black trunk lid. Guess some custom paint accents were added.
Quote from: 68countrysedan on April 02, 2024, 01:00:57 PM
Car spotting addendum
Once again, spotting background cars can be as interesting as the main image imho.
In reply 181 photo, just to the right of the dude in the red jacket is a Mk 1 Cortina with a black trunk lid. Guess some custom paint accents were added.
and to the right of the Cortina, a 2002 BMW?
Behind the lady looking at the camera and next to the red jacket, perhaps an MG? Got a luggage rack and the suitcase is wrapped in plastic due to the rain.
My uncle raced his Triumph from the late 1950's until perhaps the mid-1960's. I always look at these photos and see if I can spot him or my aunt. He's passed now, but 30 years ago he pulled out his photo's from way-back. It had him and the Group-44 team and such....just hanging out before and after the races. They also had a Volvo and between the Cobra and the people, is a Volvo. Except I remember theirs was more grey.
Nope, it's not Riverside. Too green. Hills are too small (although the density of big rocks is pretty close.)
Count the number of non-CA license plates. (Are there any CA plates?)
Oops, just read silverton_ford's post: "May 11th 1968 Cumberland MD races held at the local airport"