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The Cars => 1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H => Topic started by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 31, 2019, 07:18:18 AM
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I k ow it’s been asked but anyone make or have a set of the black interior trunk pieces for a 1966 GT350
One of mine is cracked and all of the repopieces I have seen don’t fit well and are the incorrect grain/texture
See picture the bottom one is original
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Steve, where you able to find an acceptable source? My trim pieces are original, and warped, or more precisely, wavy...
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Also looking for a correct full set. Do we know if accurate reproductions are being made?
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I haven’t found a correct repo set yet, have about 4-5 warped and broken originals but haven’t done anything with them yet
I did hear of a guy in Calif was making sets but lost the contact info when my old computer crashed and burned taking all that info with it
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Steve, this might be the info you're looking for:
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=524.msg3016#msg3016
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Coumt me in for a complete set as 296 did not take 115outside a trailer it was in very well.
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Steve, this might be the info you're looking for:
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=524.msg3016#msg3016
That’s it !
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Steve, this might be the info you're looking for:
http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=524.msg3016#msg3016
That’s it !
Steve,
Just checking seems like a lot of us are looking for the same thing. Do you plan on reaching out to him for availability and pricing of the trim pieces? If so, maybe a collective large order may work out for everyone looking for a set. I'm also curious as to the finish product in a Judged Class DIV II. Randy's reply to the other thread identified them as Fiberglass and not the original injected molded plastic. Could you post the results here after your conversation?
Respectfully,
Shawn
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Hey everyone, I am currently in the process of having these pieces made. I am in the plastics business and I have some contacts for this kind of stuff. I am having them made in the exact same way they were originally. Also they are being made out of the same material as original. This is very important so you can manipulate them when being installed. I should have something in about three months.
Chad
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I was fortunate enough to purchase a complete set of new old stock, from Shelby, complete quarter window kit for 6S281. Incredibly, they are still in the box and wrapped in 1966 Los Angeles times newspaper. The NOS trim should allow for an exact copy. I have been in contact with a local plastic company who is ready to assist with recommendations on material and a manufacturer as soon as COVID allows us to open up a little bit. He seems to think it will be possible to re-create exact copies, plastic, texture etc.
I’m curious, what say the forum members concerning a reasonable retail price and any idea on how many sets could be sold for really nice accurate reproductions?
Thanks
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I was fortunate enough to purchase a complete set of new old stock, from Shelby, complete quarter window kit for 6S281. Incredibly, they are still in the box and wrapped in 1966 Los Angeles times newspaper. The NOS trim should allow for an exact copy. I have been in contact with a local plastic company who is ready to assist with recommendations on material and a manufacturer as soon as COVID allows us to open up a little bit. He seems to think it will be possible to re-create exact copies, plastic, texture etc.
I’m curious, what say the forum members concerning a reasonable retail price and any idea on how many sets could be sold for really nice accurate reproductions?
Thanks
I’d be willing to buy a set if they look like original and more importantly that they actually fit. I spent hours and hours attempting to get a “repo” set to fit and they don’t fit very well
Branda get $129 for a set of interior panels id go as high $200 for just the interior panels (4 pieces)
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Branda get $129 for a set of interior panels.
And, none of Brandas, has ever fit.
Just a reminder for fit: sometimes, the SA workers, cut out too much material from the interior sail panels,
leaving an opening too large, for the 1/4 window panels to fit properly...even from the factory.
Doug C.
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Suggestion: While I adhere to the military axiom "Dual channel for reliability", if Karguy and Chad will converse in order to obtain the most correct and economical build, it will benefit us all and allow the most viable source to proceed.
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Suggestion: While I adhere to the military axiom "Dual channel for reliability", if Karguy and Chad will converse in order to obtain the most correct and economical build, it will benefit us all and allow the most viable source to proceed.
Very good point.
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Another suggestion: I know from experience that tooling up for items like this is expensive. I'd be willing (and perhaps others here) to contribute to the effort in advance in return for a set from the first production run.
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I have a set from the above mentioned guy from California.
While the texture was very accurate, they were about 3/8 inch short of fitting in my aluminum quarter window frames.
For Sale if anybody wants them.
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I am interested in a set also. Please keep us posted.
Happy Holidays!
Steve
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Count me in as well to this “crowd funding”
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I would be interested as well.
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I would buy a set and prepay as well.
Joe
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I would be interested as well.
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I will keep you guys posted. It is going to be a three month process. So that is what the maker is telling me so that means 4 months.
Chad
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I would love a set and willing to pay in advance and contribute to tooling-
Thanks
Cory James
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I would love a set and willing to pay in advance and contribute to tooling-
Thanks
Cory James
I would also assist with some dollars if needed. Doug C
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I would love a set and willing to pay in advance and contribute to tooling-
Thanks
Cory James
I would also assist with some dollars if needed. Doug C
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These things must have started warping almost immediately. I have a photo of my 66 interior taken in 1973 by a friend of the owner at the time showing the trim , looks exactly the same as it does today....wavy.
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These things must have started warping almost immediately. I have a photo of my 66 interior taken in 1973 by a friend of the owner at the time showing the trim , looks exactly the same as it does today....wavy.
It probably didn't take too many heat cycles for the plastic to start warping.Of course some are worse then others.
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I’m definitely in, and $200 would seem to be an entirely appropriate price for quality set of 4....
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I'd be willing to buy a LH&RH set if they look original and fit.
Saves me from making them in my shop. The best of luck to ya.
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Guys thank you for all the offers in helping to pay for the tooling. At this time I have it covered. The tooling cost will dictate what the price of the pieces are.
Thanks
Chad
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Chad - any update on your progress getting the parts made?
Thanks
Shawn
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+1. Any updates?
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Yes, inquiring minds want to know. 😉
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Hey everyone, I am supposed to have a sample at the end of this month. I will follow up with my friend/supplier that is making these for me and I will post more of an update this week.
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🙏
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I spoke to my friend and he said the molds are finished and they are running samples. They will send me a sample as soon as they have it dialed in. stay tuned!
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Thanks for the update...
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;D
GREAT! Can't wait!
Steve
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Good deal! A much need part.
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Chad -
What's the latest?
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Any updates?
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Lots of folks wanting in on this! Me included!
Rob
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Hey everyone,
I got my first samples two weeks ago and they looked really good. They have to tweak a few things and make another sample set. These things are going to be great. They are made exactly the way they were originally and out of the same material! Unfortunately they are not going to be cheap. Like everything in life it has cost more than I originally thought
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Hi Chad, Thanks for your efforts on driving this project with your friend. Question since there are going to be master moulds for the final product can you friend offer them in fiberglass also? I just cant see putting these on so that they can just warp again down the line.
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Hey everyone,
I got my first samples two weeks ago and they looked really good. They have to tweak a few things and make another sample set. These things are going to be great. They are made exactly the way they were originally and out of the same material! Unfortunately they are not going to be cheap. Like everything in life it has cost more than I originally thought
Can you share what the potential cost will be for a complete set?
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You cannot use these molds to make fiberglass parts. Also you can not make fiberglass parts fit. They have to be made out of plastic so you can manipulate them to fit. The price is probably going to be around $500 per set.
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You cannot use these molds to make fiberglass parts. Also you can not make fiberglass parts fit. They have to be made out of plastic so you can manipulate them to fit. The price is probably going to be around $500 per set.
It could be my old age but I just dont understand, is anything being done to strengthen them/reinforce them so they dont warp just like all our originals did and are?. Just like if an original 65 plastic gauge pod was replicated with the same material, it would just warp again. So excited and 8nterested in this project, I just want to better understand what I will be getting and if it's worth the time and effort for replacement. Thanks again for your efforts.
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You cannot use these molds to make fiberglass parts. Also you can not make fiberglass parts fit. They have to be made out of plastic so you can manipulate them to fit. The price is probably going to be around $500 per set.
It could be my old age but I just dont understand, is anything being done to strengthen them/reinforce them so they dont warp just like all our originals did and are?. Just like if an original 65 plastic gauge pod was replicated with the same material, it would just warp again. So excited and 8nterested in this project, I just want to better understand what I will be getting and if it's worth the time and effort for replacement. Thanks again for your efforts.
It was not a forgone conclusion that every trim piece or dash pod would warp . Many did but some didn't. To each their own but I think a exact looking quarter window trim would be a God send regardless of if made out of original materials that had a tendency to warp over time or the modern equivalent material that might not as much. At least compared to the ill fitting and different texture looking fiberglass trim alternatives IMO.
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+1, would rather have original type then fiberglass
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Guys one thing you have to remember is they parts warped because the cars sat out in the sun as daily drivers for years. They amount of time your cars sit in the sun now is an absolute fraction of time!
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I would also be willing to bet that even if the same type of material is used, the chemical makeup is different and will behave differently.
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I agree 100%, anything that is better than what's currently available is always a winner! Bob made a good point, old plastic versus possibly better modern equivalent plastic. Did not mean to come across as a negative nancy they were just questions of concern. Thank you again
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Chad
Hate to bother you but these trim pieces are basically the last thing I need to finish a restoration! Any updates? Thanks much
Rob
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I need a set too to finish my car. The only area of the car I'm still not happy with.
Where to cut templates for the new interior receiving panels would be nice in a kit.
Ray
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For those of you, who haven't had the pleasure, of installing the 1/4 window trim pieces, please be Aware....
Pay close attention, to the interior sail panels, where the chrome trim, has been cut out for the 1/4 window install.
Sometimes, the SA workers were not too careful and removed too much material and the opening is too large, to
allow, the trim pieces, to fit properly. I noticed that the trim pieces ( originals ) in my Shelby never matched at the ends.
They were spread apart.
When I went to install replacement trim panels, I found when I had them snugly in the rear, I had about 3/16" gap at
the front and when I moved them forward, I had the same size gap at the rear. Trying to equally place them in the
opening, didn't work, as they just didn't look right.
So my solution, was to procure a real nice set of used interior sail panels and take the time to mark the cut out area
accurately and was very careful, in cutting out the trim pieces. This paid off, as the replacement 1/4 trim pieces, fit
perfectly.
I'm sure, my Shelby, isn't the only one that came from SA, with this condition, concerning the 1/4 windows. Just be
aware, it's a possibility and take a close look at what you have. Good Luck
Doug Cresanta
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Chad
How is your project going? Looking forward to seeing how and turns out and hopefully getting a set. Thanks
Rob
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+1
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Good question. We think we have a company that will do the molding but we have to make a few tweaks to the mold and the vacuum system. Hopefully I will have some samples in a month or two. I know I have said that before but I am going on what my friend tells me. He is working hard on this.
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+1
The last pieces I need to complete my car. Mine car will come home without any and will sit this winter til the issue is resolved.
I did not realize Chad was this far in fixing this issue when I mentioned 3D printing as a solution in another thread.
Ray
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Ray I am in the same boat as you. My Hertz car has undergone a complete resto and all I need to complete it is the trim pieces. I am supposed to have new samples this month but I am not holding my breath. You can not push anyone in the plastics business these days. They have more work than they can handle and a small project like this is of no interest to those companies.
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I hear you Chad. We wait together. Admittedly I know little about plastics molded or printed.
I do agree all mfg is backed up. Maybe some "limo pull shades" in the interim ;)
Ray
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Chad
Any progress news ?
Wife wants to know what I want for Christmas. These would be on the short list, these and a 289 CSX2000 series please 😎
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New year, any new news!
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Guy I am about to pull my hair out!! Supposedly I am getting some production pieces this month. I am not holding my breath!
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Ok, just checking
It’s too cold to mess with anything anyway
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Still in the same boat for a set. No hair here to pull.
Ray
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Thanks for hanging in there with it, looking forward to one day installing a set!
Rob
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Me 2!
Steve
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Hope these get made, have a buddy that is needing a set.
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I talked to Chad today. He is frustrated to say the least because of mishaps with samples and MFG delays. He has a car that is done except for the panels so he has every incentive to not delay but it is not in his hands . I would be cool and not press the issue . It is not in anyone who needs them best interest to aggravate a already frustrated helpful soul .Just saying.
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Having worked suppliers for over 30 years I understand his frustration
Sometimes their concept of time is much different than the rest of us
Here’s a virtual hug to Chad 👐
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I would be interested in a set.
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Bump to get this higher in the message queue and easier to find.
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i could use a set also. i have a lower one with slight warp
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Me too...ready for a set.
Steve
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I think we all have to remember that, if this were easy, it would've been done by others a long time ago.
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Hey everyone,
I am still working on this project. I just had what we thought was going to be the last prototype before we cut the mold, but it needs a little tweaking. So if the next set is good we can move to cutting the mold.
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate your hard work and dedication to getting this done
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate your hard work and dedication to getting this done
+1
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Chad
Thanks for all the hard work and dealing with the frustrations you surely have had to deal with taking on a project like this, especially with the challenges of the past couple of years. Please know that if you’re ultimately successful there will be quite a few folks that are going to be very appreciative of your efforts, me included! Thanks for the update!
Rob
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+2
Steve
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Just mentioning I have a set of the inner curved front edge panels and the inner 2 part pieces that lay against the plexi glass. I am in the UK which may make this unattractive for most folks to purchase. They are repo.
Cheers. Peter
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Chad
Any updates. I am in need of a set.
Rodney
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+1
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Hey Everyone,
The mold is being cut right now. I hope to have some parts made in three months.
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GOOD NEWS!
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Thanks Chad
I can't say how thankful i am for your hard work in getting this done. I'm sure I speak for many when I say "Thank you"
Steve McD
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Can’t wait!
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Meeeee 2!!!
Steve
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Thanks for sticking with it. Many will benefit from your fortitude. Can't wait to see the final product and UPS in my driveway.
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It occurs to me that SAI had to deal with these same challenges back in 1965 / 66,
as the volumes of the GT350's was still small batch manufacturing, AND they were working up against hard deadlines to meet production schedules!
The meeting minutes related in Chuck Cantwell's book reflect the struggles of getting tooling setups, sample pieces and production run going and meet the car production schedule.
So no wonder there were incomplete GT350's sitting waiting for hoods, quarter window trim, wheels, etc.
Just imagine doing this for volumes like F-150's !
The documentary "A Faster Horse" is a view into new model startup, an interesting video!
regards,
jim p
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plus, bills to vendors weren't paid and new suppliers had to be found