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Title: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 12:43:07 PM
I am negotiating to purchase an early Shelby from an estate.  In order to expedite the transaction, I'm considering purchasing a '70 Boss 302 along with it.  Dark Aqua Metallic/blue interior,  original 4 speed car.  A solid number 2 condition car.  I don't have all the details yet, but will soon.  I'm not looking to flip it and make a buck.  Just trying to move the seller along.  Contact me if you have any interest or to make a suggestion as to what price it would move fast at.  I know these cars aren't the most desirable these days, but it's still a pretty cool car in solid driver's condition.  Personally, I love this color in person.

Brian
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 12:44:01 PM
2 more pics
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Greg on May 24, 2019, 01:03:32 PM
Brain, do you have a price?
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 01:06:09 PM
Greg, I'm honestly not sure what it will bring.  Do you think $65k sounds reasonable for a car like this?
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Rickmustang on May 24, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
Non shaker hurts a bit, but that price is fair for what you are trying to do. Of course that assumes all parts match. Make sure you check with Boss forum guys.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
Thanks Rick, I will.

Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: tesgt350 on May 24, 2019, 01:52:05 PM
That is not Dark Aqua Metallic, it looks like it is Medium Bright Blue, like the 1970 R-Code Mach 1 I used to own.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: 2112 on May 24, 2019, 01:55:57 PM
Darn nice B2
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Greg on May 24, 2019, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 01:06:09 PM
Greg, I'm honestly not sure what it will bring.  Do you think $65k sounds reasonable for a car like this?

I have seen them in the $45-55K range for non shaker hood, driven cars and $65-85K for higher level cars.  You may be a little high but it's a start, it is however a good color and the rest would depend on the restoration level, matching numbers... you know the ins and outs. 
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on May 24, 2019, 01:52:05 PM
That is not Dark Aqua Metallic, it looks like it is Medium Bright Blue, like the 1970 R-Code Mach 1 I used to own.

Opps. sorry about that.  What I know about Boss 302's could fit in a thimble, lol. 
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on May 24, 2019, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on May 24, 2019, 01:52:05 PM
That is not Dark Aqua Metallic, it looks like it is Medium Bright Blue, like the 1970 R-Code Mach 1 I used to own.

Maybe we are saying the same thing, but from the pictures it looks like Medium Blue Metallic (code Q)
There was a Bright Blue Metallic (code 6) in 1970 which is darker than Medium Blue and was the new name for Acapulco Blue. 
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: davez on May 24, 2019, 03:08:50 PM
Brian
The right front floor pan looks like it was wrinkled and straightened, Could be from and accident could be from poor rust repair and the rocker lip doesn't look straight. Not sure how much is due to camera angle but it looks weird. Doesn't match the other side. Just make sure it wasn't smacked in the side and repaired poorly. Sure it could be corrected but don't pay too much
dz
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 03:26:39 PM
Thanks Dave.  Good advice.

Brian
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: capecodmustang.com on May 24, 2019, 03:47:01 PM
Boss 302s...

It better be a factory shaker car if you're trying to resell..

Just my .02
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Chris Thauberger on May 24, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: davez on May 24, 2019, 03:08:50 PM
Brian
The right front floor pan looks like it was wrinkled and straightened, Could be from and accident could be from poor rust repair and the rocker lip doesn't look straight. Not sure how much is due to camera angle but it looks weird. Doesn't match the other side. Just make sure it wasn't smacked in the side and repaired poorly. Sure it could be corrected but don't pay too much
dz

Agree. That right front floor and rocker looks hinky.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on May 24, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
If I'm looking to buy one of the over 7K 1970  Boss 302s built(half with Shakers) I'd want a shaker and deluxe interior. There isn't a "supply/demand issue for rarity on a 70 Boss. they built a LOT. Nice color would help but without seeing better underneath pics,  what it is missing under the hood and other correct parts there or missing you could possibly be looking at a car in the 40s to low 50s. Now add on a quick estate sale to me 65K seems high. In other words to find a Boss i'd pass on this option list unless it was cheap. Just my .02 worth. BTW I found by personal experience selling a car on a forum the Boss 302 forum has been the best. We sold a 427 side oiler 69 R-code 4 speed Mach1 there a few years ago in one day.  Gary
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on May 24, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: davez on May 24, 2019, 03:08:50 PM
Brian
The right front floor pan looks like it was wrinkled and straightened, Could be from and accident could be from poor rust repair and the rocker lip doesn't look straight. Not sure how much is due to camera angle but it looks weird. Doesn't match the other side. Just make sure it wasn't smacked in the side and repaired poorly. Sure it could be corrected but don't pay too much
dz

Agree. That right front floor and rocker looks hinky.
Actually it's better in real pics.  Ill send you some.

Brian
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on May 24, 2019, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: capecodmustang.com on May 24, 2019, 03:47:01 PM
Boss 302s...

It better be a factory shaker car if you're trying to resell..

Just my .02

Being a flat hood car will make it more difficult as well as the fact that it has blue guts.  Blue is more rare, but not necessarily desirable.   
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: 2112 on May 24, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
Do you think having a properly tuned in-line Autolite 4BBL carburetor and Cross Boss manifold would make up for the lack of a Shaker?

I mean, those are pretty incredible if they are tamed correctly.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 08:44:59 PM
I wonder what a no reserve BaT auction would bring?
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: 2112 on May 24, 2019, 08:56:40 PM
Brian, this page tracks all the Gen I Boss sales on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/ford/mustang-1969-1970-1971-1972-1973/
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Bigfoot on May 24, 2019, 10:34:31 PM
Having had a few shaker 70's I think it's fun to have a flat hood car. But most people want a shaker. I love the blue on blue but most want black interior.
65 is High unless numbers match and no Repop and perfect OG Metal.

Rear gear ratio is super relevant to price.

All this is super important if ur paying over 50 for a car like this just to get the other car unless ur buying the Shelby enough under the money to cover the difference.

PM if you don't know where the VIN derivative is on the block,... I'll help u find it if it's there.

Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Bigfoot on May 24, 2019, 10:37:24 PM
Normally on these it's pretty easy to see VIN on inner fender with a small amount of work. I wouldn't touch one without seeing it on one side at least.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: papa scoops on May 24, 2019, 10:59:06 PM
the only purpose of the shaker was to tell you if you have a broken motor mount. phred
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 25, 2019, 10:08:57 AM
That's pretty funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Chris Thauberger on May 25, 2019, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on May 24, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: davez on May 24, 2019, 03:08:50 PM
Brian
The right front floor pan looks like it was wrinkled and straightened, Could be from and accident could be from poor rust repair and the rocker lip doesn't look straight. Not sure how much is due to camera angle but it looks weird. Doesn't match the other side. Just make sure it wasn't smacked in the side and repaired poorly. Sure it could be corrected but don't pay too much
dz

Agree. That right front floor and rocker looks hinky.
Actually it's better in real pics.  Ill send you some.

Brian

Thanks for the pictures Brian. Hope you found my opinion objective  :)

What ever you decide have fun with it, its only money  ;D

Chris
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: shelbymann1970 on May 26, 2019, 06:42:32 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on May 24, 2019, 08:44:59 PM
I wonder what a no reserve BaT auction would bring?
2112's link was one of the reasons I mentioned the prices I did. Also when the cars do not meet reserve on any auction I am always suspect if there were any shill bidders bidding up to just below a reserve price. 
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 26, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Some better quality pics:   


https://imageshack.com/a/PXyo/1
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: BGlover67 on May 26, 2019, 05:52:13 PM
Just so everyone knows, I'm honestly not looking to make any money off these two cars.  I just want the opportunity to purchase a third car.  But if I make an offer on all three, I need to know what's the minimum price I could get for each, so I can figure what to offer.  Or have them pre-sold before I make an offer.  For this car, the 1970 BOSS 302, I was thinking $60k, but hit me up if you are interested and you think it should be lower.  This whole thing is a long shot and the chances it's going to come through is seeming slimmer by the day.  Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on May 26, 2019, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on May 26, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Some better quality pics:   


https://imageshack.com/a/PXyo/1
Brian,
FWIW
As others have pointed out, the pass front framerail has had work done on it or replaced. 
1)If you look at the very back of the drivers side frame rail you can see that the portion that is spotwelded to the floor extends past the sides and then tapers down to the back of the framerail.  The passenger side matches the sides of the framerail.
2)You can see that there are spotwelds missing where it is welded to the floor (interior portion)
3)There should be two holes on the bottom of the passenger side framerail similar to the drivers side.  Only the larger one where the body buck was mounted is present.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: 67 GT350 on May 27, 2019, 07:36:43 AM
Better scoop the bosses up, they are dirt cheap right now! They are a great car to drive!
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: terlingua11 on May 27, 2019, 11:40:51 AM
They didn't race with a shaker, so I prefer no shaker on a Boss 302.
Title: Re: Any interest in a '70 Boss 302?
Post by: Rex on May 27, 2019, 01:25:27 PM
I have a 17,000 mile Grabber Orange, no shaker, no slats, no rear spoiler and I like the clean look. I was looking for a Shaker, slat, rear spoiler car when I found this one.