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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 07:56:06 AM

Title: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 07:56:06 AM
Just watched the latest episode of 'Restoration Garage' on Velocity.  It's called 'Hat Trick'.  It details the shop bringing their '46 Alfa to the 2017 Cobble Beach Concours d'Elegance.  What caught my eye was the nightmist '67 GT350 that won it's best of class award.  It's only on screen for a second or so, but I was sure I recognized it.  I was parked next to it at SAAC 42.

https://www.cobblebeachconcours.com/winners

https://www.cobblebeachconcours.com/gallery-2017-winners

Congrats to Hunt Palmer and his wife.  Really nice folks with a really nice car.  Great to see some love given to a '67 at a Concourse d' Elegance.  ;D
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: 557 on February 15, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
Can't see the forest through the trees(or in this case the Shelby through the people) in the photo... :P
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: 2112 on February 15, 2018, 10:34:25 AM
If I open a page of pics, and at the top is a Miura SV, it is a forgone conclusion I won't be scrolling down the page.  🤓


On the subject of Restoration Garage, I can't help but wonder how they restore so many different makes and models to concours levels. Do they hire marque experts to advise them on each car? They would need a staff of several dozen researchers and advisors to keep all that expertise in-house.

They also move some product. It isn't like they spend 3 years on a glitzy European car, let alone an American Muscle car.

Just wondering out loud.  🤔
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Richstang on February 15, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
Quote from: 557 on February 15, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
Can't see the forest through the trees(or in this case the Shelby through the people) in the photo... :P

We can still see the front and back corners...
:P

#1412 makes a lots of concours event appearances. Here it is in 2016 at Kneeland. Interesting comments in the photo caption.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: jim mac on February 15, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
Nice car!  It is interesting that he says he is the last original owner of a 1967 GT350. I know a local guy that is the original owner of his 1967 GT500, also nightmist blue.  I bet there are others out there still.   
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Richstang on February 15, 2018, 10:59:02 AM
^^^Yes, I was thinking exactly the same. Anyone know what the "low" mileage is?
No matter what, it's a beautiful car, I'd love to have in my driveway!!!

Now about those large letter Goodyears!
uhmmm.....I don't think they were ever found on 10-spokes (never mind that late VIN), I have to look into that.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: roddster on February 15, 2018, 12:00:04 PM
  The Palmer's car mileage is under 9000K.  It was a drag car for a lot of its life.  And, as seen at SAAC 42, still in its mostly Cobra Kitted Day two  trim.  Love it.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: JD on February 15, 2018, 12:46:57 PM
There is at least one other one-owner '67 known to many, also some lower mileage '67's too.

Great history on Hunt's car!
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Richstang on February 15, 2018, 01:07:27 PM
A drag car with 9K miles....that's could be a ton of passes down the quarter. Does it still have it's original block?

After checking my spreadsheet, there were no 10-spoke cars made yet when they switched to the small letter Goodyears.
The majority were Magstars and maybe a few hubcap cars.

Don't get me wrong, I actually favor the large letter Goodyears, but at an MCA or SAAC event they wouldn't fly on that late of a build.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: gt350cs on February 15, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
According to records - car came with hubcaps originally.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
He took a lot of liberties when he restored this car.   Much of it was Ford aftermarket I assume since he worked at a dealership.  Funny how a car can win best of class at a concourse judging and yet be factory incorrect in so many ways. 

When I spoke with a fairly well known restorer recently, he told me he asks customers whether they want their car restored for SAAC Councourse (factory correct), or concourse d elegance(over restored).  I guess there is room for both. 
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Richstang on February 15, 2018, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
He took a lot of liberties when he restored this car.   Much of it was Ford aftermarket I assume since he worked at a dealership.  Funny how a car can win best of class at a concourse judging and yet be factory incorrect in so many ways. 

When I spoke with a fairly well known restorer recently, he told me he asks customers whether they want their car restored for SAAC Councourse (factory correct), or concourse d elegance(over restored).  I guess there is room for both.

It must be an exceptionally clean car to win at concours events. They are such a different crowd of people compared to a single mark event.

I imagine the cost difference is a factor as well. I'd be happy (and lucky) just to have a driver '67 Shelby. There's room for all of them in my book. 
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 15, 2018, 02:27:12 PM
Quote from: JD on February 15, 2018, 12:46:57 PM
There is at least one other one-owner '67 known to many, also some lower mileage '67's too.

Great history on Hunt's car!

Very true.  I met a fellow at SAAC 43 that had owned his white 67 Shelby GT500 (I believe it was a big block, but can't remember for sure) since new.  He gave me his card, but I can't find it.   :-[
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 15, 2018, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
He took a lot of liberties when he restored this car.   Much of it was Ford aftermarket I assume since he worked at a dealership.  Funny how a car can win best of class at a concourse judging and yet be factory incorrect in so many ways. 

When I spoke with a fairly well known restorer recently, he told me he asks customers whether they want their car restored for SAAC Councourse (factory correct), or concourse d elegance(over restored).  I guess there is room for both.
I first aw Hunts car at the French Lick Concours that he helped run. A few years back Hunt asked me to come and look at his car and evaluate the factory correctness because he wanted to put it in SAAC concours. I said I would be glad to . During preliminary conversation prior to me coming I asked him what he planned to do once given the information and he said "I am not going to change a thing" . I decided it would be better not to drive 1400 miles round trip and expenses under those circumstances  ;D . I explained what SAAC/MCA /Mid America concours is about in as sensitive way as possible. I explained that the car in it's current state would not be appropriate in a venue where assemblyline originality is the point and the expectation. SAAC does have a popular vote class where the day 2 parts and other personal touch's are appropriate. The last thing I wanted to do is give him the wrong idea that I didn't think his car was great. He understood . I believe he understood and took my explanation in the friendly non disrespectful way it was meant. We remain friends that goodness. He did the car the way he personally wanted which is cool too. I remember the cars at Pebble beach concours the year the GT350's were there . You had basically from one extreme of correctness to the other in the GT350 class. But even the much less correct cars were considered as good.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: BGlover67 on February 15, 2018, 03:33:22 PM
If I remember correctly, it won an award in the '67 GT350 class popular vote on Saturday at SAAC 42.  1st place maybe?  Anyone recall?  I do remember my friend John Callis won 3rd place. 
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: J_Speegle on February 15, 2018, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: Richstang on February 15, 2018, 02:09:26 PM
It must be an exceptionally clean car to win at concours events. They are such a different crowd of people compared to a single mark event.

Yes they are different and can be a real challenge to understand how winners (Concours d'Elegance) are chosen some times.

Attended one back maybe two years ago with a car I helped with. Talked to one of the two judges after the event about the car and his comment was that since the Shelby was a mass produced car it really would not have been considered for a top trophy in its class.

Had to scratch my head since a Doge Dart and a  were two of the top three cars in the class.   Guess the judges didn't like Fords or maybe too many of them had won in the past years.

Ahh the fun of shows  :) 
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: Irishroamer on February 15, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
Just my 2 cents regarding original owners.....I purchased #1382, GT-350, in November, 1967 from Reynolds Ford in Syracuse, NY and still own it today with 48,000 miles on the odometer.  Currently in final stages of a restoration to deal with the problems of being stored for 40 years.
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: jim mac on April 11, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
I just saw #1412 at the Amelia Island concours this year (2018). Also talked to the owner for a while.  Nice guy, nice car. Some repro stuff and day 2 stuff on the car, but hey, it looks great and he is having a great time with it. Nothing wrong with that.

Jim
Title: Re: Restoration Garage episode with a '67 GT350
Post by: jim mac on April 11, 2018, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Irishroamer on February 15, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
Just my 2 cents regarding original owners.....I purchased #1382, GT-350, in November, 1967 from Reynolds Ford in Syracuse, NY and still own it today with 48,000 miles on the odometer.  Currently in final stages of a restoration to deal with the problems of being stored for 40 years.

You still in the Syracuse area?