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Title: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 17, 2019, 09:03:26 AM
this was the stunt car found in mexico

pictures illustrate how it was found and how it was put back together and green paint shot on it

"Lost" Bullitt Mustang surfaces in Mexico | Hemmings Daily
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2017/03/08/lost-bullitt-mustang-surfaces-in-mexico/
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: deathsled on August 17, 2019, 10:20:12 AM
I didn't realize how bad the floor pan was.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Bigfoot on August 17, 2019, 10:23:29 AM
They should have done a better job just keeping it as it was found and just getting it rolling. Not even running but rolling. Kept it authentic
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 17, 2019, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: deathsled on August 17, 2019, 10:20:12 AM
I didn't realize how bad the floor pan was.

crispy as grandmas cookies....
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 17, 2019, 10:51:27 AM
+ 1

Quote from: Bigfoot on August 17, 2019, 10:23:29 AM
They should have done a better job just keeping it as it was found and just getting it rolling. Not even running but rolling. Kept it authentic
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: 2112 on August 17, 2019, 11:50:56 AM
I thought the story was they didn't know what they had when the started the restoration and sent in for a Marti report when things were well underway?
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: deathsled on August 17, 2019, 11:59:09 AM
Quote from: 2112 on August 17, 2019, 11:50:56 AM
I thought the story was they didn't know what they had when the started the restoration and sent in for a Marti report when things were well underway?
That's what I heard as well.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 17, 2019, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: 2112 on August 17, 2019, 11:50:56 AM
I thought the story was they didn't know what they had when the started the restoration and sent in for a Marti report when things were well underway?


correct was going to be eleanorized, then found out that it was 558 the stunt car in bullit.

the whole world found out about this new and at the time one and only  bullitt mustang....

this caused the owner of 559 the true bullit car to take it out of hiding or announcing to the world of its presence

hello world I have the true bullit mustang

should be written up as a novel,  great drama....
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: deathsled on August 17, 2019, 04:54:31 PM
Yes to writing a novel about it!
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on August 17, 2019, 05:37:34 PM
How does the story about Washington's hatchet go?

The handle was changed several times and it has a new head, but it is the hatchet he used to chop down the cherry tree????
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 17, 2019, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on August 17, 2019, 05:37:34 PM
How does the story about Washington's hatchet go?

The handle was changed several times and it has a new head, but it is the hatchet he used to chop down the cherry tree????

ROTFLMAO  ;)


I will pass on the Kool-aid thanks.

I would be interested in that hatchet though...  ::)
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: rhjanes on August 17, 2019, 07:26:20 PM
The family that owned the one here in the USA, knew what they had.  A very few "insiders" knew who had it and generally where it was.  The "news" of the other one did seem to prompt them to bring it out instead of in a garage.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 17, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
Quote from: rhjanes on August 17, 2019, 07:26:20 PM
The family that owned the one here in the USA, knew what they had.  A very few "insiders" knew who had it and generally where it was.  The "news" of the other one did seem to prompt them to bring it out instead of in a garage.

absolutely,  the iron was hot on the other stunt junk car receiving all the press and headline that belonged to the real bullitt car

why continue to hide the one and only real mccoy
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: deathsled on August 17, 2019, 10:22:57 PM
It's good that the hero car is out in the light.  That was a special car to me in my formative years.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: J_Speegle on August 17, 2019, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on August 17, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
why continue to hide the one and only real mccoy

Some do not enjoy the attention nor the consent badgering from people would surely continue to try and buy the car. Know a number of owners that sort of wish they had not brought out their car to a show for that very same reason while many more than leave their cars covered in a garage or warehouse for the same reason.  This may limit how they wish to enjoy their car but its their car and their choice.

Plus if this can had been known of for decades and had allot of exposure it would limit the impact of the current situation and choices being made.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: shelbydoug on August 18, 2019, 07:18:06 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 17, 2019, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on August 17, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
why continue to hide the one and only real mccoy

Some do not enjoy the attention nor the consent badgering from people would surely continue to try and buy the car. Know a number of owners that sort of wish they had not brought out their car to a show for that very same reason while many more than leave their cars covered in a garage or warehouse for the same reason.  This may limit how they wish to enjoy their car but its their car and their choice.

Plus if this can had been known of for decades and had allot of exposure it would limit the impact of the current situation and choices being made.

I had one guy force me to the side of the road like a cop would and yell out the window "hey, do you know what that is?" I was tempted to say, "Sure. Do you know what a Smith & Wesson is?"

It's getting ridiculous out there. I rarely go to any shows any more for that reason. You get all these local ganstas that are gonna' make you an offer you can't refuse.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 08:21:57 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 17, 2019, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on August 17, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
why continue to hide the one and only real mccoy

Some do not enjoy the attention nor the consent badgering from people would surely continue to try and buy the car. Know a number of owners that sort of wish they had not brought out their car to a show for that very same reason while many more than leave their cars covered in a garage or warehouse for the same reason.  This may limit how they wish to enjoy their car but its their car and their choice.

Plus if this can had been known of for decades and had allot of exposure it would limit the impact of the current situation and choices being made.
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understood sir
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on August 18, 2019, 07:18:06 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 17, 2019, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on August 17, 2019, 07:36:55 PM
why continue to hide the one and only real mccoy

Some do not enjoy the attention nor the consent badgering from people would surely continue to try and buy the car. Know a number of owners that sort of wish they had not brought out their car to a show for that very same reason while many more than leave their cars covered in a garage or warehouse for the same reason.  This may limit how they wish to enjoy their car but its their car and their choice.

Plus if this can had been known of for decades and had allot of exposure it would limit the impact of the current situation and choices being made.

I had one guy force me to the side of the road like a cop would and yell out the window "hey, do you know what that is?" I was tempted to say, "Sure. Do you know what a Smith & Wesson is?"

It's getting ridiculous out there. I rarely go to any shows any more for that reason. You get all these local ganstas that are gonna' make you an offer you can't refuse.

we hate when that happens , it is so bad here we limit our outings to a half hour in the morning and a half hour in the late afternoon....just to be safe
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 08:24:38 AM
alrighty let's get back on track bullitt 558 the stunt car found in a junkyard in mexico
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: gt350shelb on August 18, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
still not convinced this  is not an air car
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: gt350shelb on August 18, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
still not convinced this  is not an air car

we have never said it was either, just a bit rough mustang

 but having said that, we to viewed what was left of vehicle number two #558

even if you could replace it with day one sheet metal, correct stampings, date codes etc

it can only be that particular original car once 

the question we pose is at what point does one call it a rebody ?

also recently a 1965 shelby gt350 sold at auction for just a bit over $100,000 to us this truly put a value on car 558 and car 559

your thoughts my friend...

Buyer beware: There are more rebodied cars out there than you think
https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2018/10/08/buyer-beware-rebodied-cars-are-out-there
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 18, 2019, 10:29:05 AM
Quotethe question we pose is at what point does one call it a rebody ?


When you use a 1967 body under a 1968 VIN its a rebody.

#you cant fool everyone
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 18, 2019, 10:29:05 AM
Quote?

Im not sure who "we" are? But, when you use a 1967 body under a 1968 VIN its a rebody.

#you cant fool everyone

we the people, the plain folks

so would it be OK to use a good 1968 stang body for this project?

original 1968 bullitt stunt car gets a 1968 stang body....its like 1968 all over again ...

then all would be honky dory?
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 18, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
That's not for me to decide. The owners can do whatever they like, replace whatever they like.

Let's start being real and stop trying to deceive people, by saying this is the car.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 18, 2019, 11:02:44 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 18, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
That's not for me to decide.

Let's start being real and stop trying to deceive people, by saying this is the car.

Pete truly do not understand what you mean by "Let's start being real and stop deceiving people, by saying this is the car"

So this car is not the chase car used in the movie Bullit?

We truly thought that they had found remnants of it and rebodied it.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 18, 2019, 11:04:44 AM
Found ..yes

Have they ( the owners) ever said it was rebodied?

I missed it, if they did. My apologies.

The only thing I have ever seen is it was authenticated?
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: FL SAAC on August 19, 2019, 07:08:19 AM
Roger that
Tremendous soup sandwich
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: gt350hr on August 19, 2019, 11:20:33 AM
   If it's a full rebody , it fooled Kevin Marti who "authenticated" it. One thing FOR SURE ....
  The engine and trans won't be original to the car!!!!
      Randy
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 19, 2019, 11:30:00 AM
QuoteThe engine and trans won't be original to the car!!!!

....or the fenders, doors, hood, quarter panels, floors, valences, deck lid, etc......
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: gt350hr on August 19, 2019, 12:06:43 PM
  How could an expert see a '67 unibody as a '68? I could understand that on a pilot plant car but not on a regular production car.
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 19, 2019, 02:43:15 PM
How shall we define expert?  :)
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Bigfoot on August 19, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: gt350hr on August 19, 2019, 11:20:33 AM
   If it's a full rebody , it fooled Kevin Marti who "authenticated" it. One thing FOR SURE ....
  The engine and trans won't be original to the car!!!!
      Randy

Did he authenticate the car or the VIN?
Title: Re: Bullitt car # 558 found in Mexico
Post by: Coralsnake on August 20, 2019, 09:12:26 AM
Personally, I dont think I want to be an expert, because someone will always know more.

Heck they dont even have to be an expert to take you out.