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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: acman63 on February 19, 2018, 02:23:15 PM

Title: drum brake paint
Post by: acman63 on February 19, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
does anyone know if they put a hand painted ring on the exterior of the drums when cars got options mag wheels  like they did in 65
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 19, 2018, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: acman63 on February 19, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
does anyone know if they put a hand painted ring on the exterior of the drums when cars got options mag wheels  like they did in 65
Yes they did. 65-70 Shelby
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: kingchief on February 19, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Does anyone have a picture???

Cheers,

Steve

Also, what is the black paint [gloss, semi-gloss or flat] for the drum and the backing plate?
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: JD on February 19, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: kingchief on February 19, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Does anyone have a picture???

Cheers,

Steve

Also, what is the black paint [gloss, semi-gloss or flat] for the drum and the backing plate?
Yes, semi-gloss black on both, regardless of the final wheel all the backing plates were painted both sides. 

The "face" of the drum was painted black so that as the drum rusted it would not show through the open areas of the wheel.  This was done (to my understanding) with a large brush of semi-gloss and not very neatly, runs onto the sides was not unusual.
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: kingchief on February 19, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Does anyone have a picture???

Also, what is the black paint [gloss, semi-gloss or flat] for the drum and the backing plate?

Semi- gloss black for the backing plate  and the same for the drum face though the applications were very different producing different looking results


Here is a picture of an original take off. The orange is rust - digital cameras change the look at times. Area and amount would have varied depending on worker applying

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070218172036.jpeg)


And a reproduction of the look on another year

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070218172047.jpeg)
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on February 19, 2018, 06:28:48 PM
Love these old original pictures, you can really see they were built as a production car and not perfect
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: kingchief on February 19, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Does anyone have a picture???

Also, what is the black paint [gloss, semi-gloss or flat] for the drum and the backing plate?

Semi- gloss black for the backing plate  and the same for the drum face though the applications were very different producing different looking results


Here is a picture of an original take off. The orange is rust - digital cameras change the look at times. Area and amount would have varied depending on worker applying

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070218172036.jpeg)


And a reproduction of the look on another year

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-070218172047.jpeg)

OUCH! Is it really worthwhile to be THAT accurate? This is PAINFUL!
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 07:17:53 PM
OUCH! Is it really worthwhile to be THAT accurate? This is PAINFUL!

You must be one of those owners that has problems with applying the firewall sealant around the contract and pass through spots :)

Now you don't have to reproduce the surface rust ....if that is what your thinking  ::)     lol
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 07:17:53 PM
OUCH! Is it really worthwhile to be THAT accurate? This is PAINFUL!

You must be one of those owners that has problems with applying the firewall sealant around the contract and pass through spots :)

Now you don't have to reproduce the surface rust ....if that is what your thinking  ::)     lol

OOOOOH! The pain, the pain!
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: 6s1802 on February 19, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
I can have my two year old grandson paint mine
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 08:25:59 PM
Quote from: 6s1802 on February 19, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
I can have my two year old grandson paint mine

Then just remember have him wear old clothes and make sure the nozzle points away from him ;)  Might let my 6 year old do it but not the two year old
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: kingchief on February 20, 2018, 08:23:28 AM
Thanks for the pictures.

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on February 20, 2018, 10:41:00 AM
While the drum faces were brushed, am I correct that the backing plates were dipped rather than sprayed?
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: shelbydoug on February 20, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 19, 2018, 08:25:59 PM
Quote from: 6s1802 on February 19, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
I can have my two year old grandson paint mine

Then just remember have him wear old clothes and make sure the nozzle points away from him ;)  Might let my 6 year old do it but not the two year old

Ah common. That's child's play. Try deciding on what kind of handgun a 5 year old can handle so he can be safe in school?

I'm leaning towards a James Bond type Barretta. The hard part is deciding on a holster. I like a shoulder holster.
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: JD on February 20, 2018, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on February 20, 2018, 10:41:00 AM
While the drum faces were brushed, am I correct that the backing plates were dipped rather than sprayed?

that was my understanding too
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: OldGuy on February 20, 2018, 01:29:51 PM
This is yet another example of the high caliber craftsmen the SA highered back in the day.

The statement that this is "painful" is quite accurate.

Frank
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: shelbydoug on February 20, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on February 20, 2018, 01:29:51 PM
This is yet another example of the high caliber craftsmen the SA highered back in the day.

The statement that this is "painful" is quite accurate.

Frank

Well was Shelby American known for employing the handicapped?
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: CharlesTurner on February 20, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
The drum blackout would have typically been done at the Ford assembly plant.
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: J_Speegle on February 20, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: caspian65 on February 20, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
The drum blackout would have typically been done at the Ford assembly plant.

+1 it was a Ford thing like allot (just about all)  of the black-out details
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: whiteykr on February 21, 2018, 03:51:15 AM
So we are saying that 67's were painted via brush on the exposed surface that you would see through the mag? I thought we had photos of a 65 with a paper tag on the drum where it was evident it had been sprayed black. Sorry ,didn't want to mix yrs.  On the old site is where that photo was .
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: J_Speegle on February 21, 2018, 04:58:47 AM
Quote from: whiteykr on February 21, 2018, 03:51:15 AM
So we are saying that 67's were painted via brush on the exposed surface that you would see through the mag?..................

That was the intent ... they often cover much more than just that outer area. This was something done for some Mustangs so it was just continued on the cars that would become Shelbys

Don't recall ever seeing spray used at San Jose for this purpose
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: kingchief on March 15, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
Are the colors mentioned previously the same for a '66 early rear brake drum?

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: drum brake paint
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 15, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
Quote from: kingchief on March 15, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
Are the colors mentioned previously the same for a '66 early rear brake drum?

Thanks,

Steve
65-67 Mustang/Shelby with deluxe wheels.