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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: 6972boss on October 09, 2019, 11:32:00 PM

Title: Roll bar repair
Post by: 6972boss on October 09, 2019, 11:32:00 PM
Anyone found an easy way to repair the rubber coating on their roll bar? I have one that the coating has tore off. I thought maybe plasti-dip might be an option....
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 10, 2019, 12:38:57 AM
Quote from: 6972boss on October 09, 2019, 11:32:00 PM
Anyone found an easy way to repair the rubber coating on their roll bar? I have one that the coating has tore off. I thought maybe plasti-dip might be an option....
Where is the popcorn emoticon when you need it ? This question has come up many times over many years. Unfortunate to report I have not seen or heard of a successful original looking repair over the many years I have been working with 67 Shelby's.  Hopefully someone else will have more encouraging news to report.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: 2112 on October 10, 2019, 01:25:14 AM
Does the original coating have a name?
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: 6972boss on October 10, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
 :o ok, looks like I am about to go into uncharted territory! I will attempt a fix and let you know the end result  ::)
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 10, 2019, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: 6972boss on October 10, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
:o ok, looks like I am about to go into uncharted territory! I will attempt a fix and let you know the end result  ::)
Only uncharted if you come up with a viable original looking repair.  ;)  Attempts to repair the roll bar foam over the years have been numerous because the problem has been around for decades. Just no successful un noticeable looking repairs that I have seen in concours judging or otherwise. Best of luck with your effort . I would suggest thinking outside the box because if it was easy a solution it would have been discovered a long time ago. Who knows you may be the guy.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Coralsnake on October 11, 2019, 08:09:42 AM
I have seen the manufacturer info on original bars, but would have to look it up
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: roddster on October 11, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
  Just buy another 67 Shelby, and switch roll bars.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
The new repro bars foam pad appearance finish don't even come close to the original finish look. The repro foam looks like it was sprayed with "Flex Seal" of TV fame. ;D   I would rather live with a pad with a little damage like from a fire extinguish mounting etc. then the cheesy shiny look that the repro bar has . The repro bar is physically made close . It is the finish that is lacking.  Replacing the entire bar is the best solution given the facts IMO. It may not be the cheapest way unfortunately. It is however the cheapest way to get the best look especially when you consider , time ,money ,stress ,personal satisfaction etc. IMO.  Roll bars come up for sale occasionally. Heck a couple in the for sale section of this forum .  FYI 67 and 68 roll bars have different inertia real brackets compared to each other.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: shelbydoug on October 11, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
The new repro bars foam pad appearance finish don't even come close to the original finish look. The repro foam looks like it was sprayed with "Flex Seal" of TV fame. ;D   I would rather live with a pad with a little damage like from a fire extinguish mounting etc. then the cheesy shiny look that the repro bar has . The repro bar is physically made close . It is the finish that is lacking.  Replacing the entire bar is the best solution given the facts IMO. It may not be the cheapest way unfortunately. It is however the cheapest way to get the best look especially when you consider , time ,money ,stress ,personal satisfaction etc. IMO.  Roll bars come up for sale occasionally. Heck a couple in the for sale section of this forum .  FYI 67 and 68 roll bars have different inertia real brackets compared to each other.

You raise the question to me as to what the original bar finish looked like? Was it always this dull flat black or when it was new did it have a sheen to it?  :o
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: 2112 on October 11, 2019, 03:35:18 PM
What is the best way to preserve an original pad covering?
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 11, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
The new repro bars foam pad appearance finish don't even come close to the original finish look. The repro foam looks like it was sprayed with "Flex Seal" of TV fame. ;D   I would rather live with a pad with a little damage like from a fire extinguish mounting etc. then the cheesy shiny look that the repro bar has . The repro bar is physically made close . It is the finish that is lacking.  Replacing the entire bar is the best solution given the facts IMO. It may not be the cheapest way unfortunately. It is however the cheapest way to get the best look especially when you consider , time ,money ,stress ,personal satisfaction etc. IMO.  Roll bars come up for sale occasionally. Heck a couple in the for sale section of this forum .  FYI 67 and 68 roll bars have different inertia real brackets compared to each other.

You raise the question to me as to what the original bar finish looked like? Was it always this dull flat black or when it was new did it have a sheen to it?  :o
It was always dull flat black.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: deathsled on October 11, 2019, 06:13:05 PM
Quote from: roddster on October 11, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
  Just buy another 67 Shelby, and switch roll bars.
Lol! That's creative! One can never have enough of em
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: gt350bp on October 11, 2019, 06:32:50 PM
I think I'd investigate a large diameter shrink wrap material that is used for rollers on roller table etc. Once it is shrunk wrapped, might be able to simulate the pebble grain finish with a truck bed liner paint / finish??? Just a thought.

Don
gt350bp
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: 6972boss on October 12, 2019, 02:08:26 AM
Well, lol, I would love to have another Shelby but I'm sure my other 8 mustang would not approve >:(
This roll bar is a 69 and it is going in my 70 mach 1. It is torn on the right side and there was a fire extinguisher strapped on the driver side.  It is OK if it is not concourse.  I'm sure that would be impossible without a big tank to dip it into. I am going to try a repair, don't have much to loose...
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: cboss70 on October 14, 2019, 09:15:40 AM
If you are going to give a repair a try, or two, keep us posted with pictures.  After all this talk I have to admit its an interesting dilemma.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: shelbydoug on October 14, 2019, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 11, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
The new repro bars foam pad appearance finish don't even come close to the original finish look. The repro foam looks like it was sprayed with "Flex Seal" of TV fame. ;D   I would rather live with a pad with a little damage like from a fire extinguish mounting etc. then the cheesy shiny look that the repro bar has . The repro bar is physically made close . It is the finish that is lacking.  Replacing the entire bar is the best solution given the facts IMO. It may not be the cheapest way unfortunately. It is however the cheapest way to get the best look especially when you consider , time ,money ,stress ,personal satisfaction etc. IMO.  Roll bars come up for sale occasionally. Heck a couple in the for sale section of this forum .  FYI 67 and 68 roll bars have different inertia real brackets compared to each other.

You raise the question to me as to what the original bar finish looked like? Was it always this dull flat black or when it was new did it have a sheen to it?  :o
It was always dull flat black.

So the issue is that the repops don't have enough flattening agent in the covering?
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 14, 2019, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 14, 2019, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 11, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on October 11, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: cboss70 on October 11, 2019, 07:58:11 AM
Maybe carefully razor blading the pad off of a new repro one will get you closer (better than nothing) but would be a big effort and won't look exact.
The new repro bars foam pad appearance finish don't even come close to the original finish look. The repro foam looks like it was sprayed with "Flex Seal" of TV fame. ;D   I would rather live with a pad with a little damage like from a fire extinguish mounting etc. then the cheesy shiny look that the repro bar has . The repro bar is physically made close . It is the finish that is lacking.  Replacing the entire bar is the best solution given the facts IMO. It may not be the cheapest way unfortunately. It is however the cheapest way to get the best look especially when you consider , time ,money ,stress ,personal satisfaction etc. IMO.  Roll bars come up for sale occasionally. Heck a couple in the for sale section of this forum .  FYI 67 and 68 roll bars have different inertia real brackets compared to each other.

You raise the question to me as to what the original bar finish looked like? Was it always this dull flat black or when it was new did it have a sheen to it?  :o
It was always dull flat black.

So the issue is that the repops don't have enough flattening agent in the covering?
The repops are a completely different texture compared to the original . It is as if it was dipped in the rubber product you dip tool handles in or that "Flex Seal " TV stuff .  There is no spongy foam feel . The repros just have a solid unforgiving hard rubber feel. The surface is slick smooth shiny black rubber compared to the original which has a slightly rough slightly spongy foam feel and is a dull black.  The difference is night and day IMO. The product that they are dipped in is completely different from that used on the genuine roll bars.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: DGSOH on October 15, 2019, 05:37:33 PM
Though mine is an early, non-dipped roll bar I would say the material is neoprene, hopefully others can confirm, but at least that's what the texture and feel is like to me. I personally don't know if the dipped bars are of the same material but thought I'd throw it out there in case it helps in some small way.
Title: Re: Roll bar repair
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 15, 2019, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: DGSOH on October 15, 2019, 05:37:33 PM
Though mine is an early, non-dipped roll bar I would say the material is neoprene, hopefully others can confirm, but at least that's what the texture and feel is like to me. I personally don't know if the dipped bars are of the same material but thought I'd throw it out there in case it helps in some small way.
The early separate roll bar covers are apparently the same material as the dipped bars. I had to buy a entire car to get mine.