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Title: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 24, 2019, 04:14:51 PM
Can someone please help me?  I have been trying to find part numbers for the 1966 to 1970 Shelby side scoops. I have also been trying to figure out the parts numbers for the inlet, hose and outlet for the air vent brake system.  I would like to more about them parts.

if there is somewhere where I can find that information or if I can buy that information I will.

thank you !
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: 427heaven on December 24, 2019, 04:54:37 PM
Bill Christmas came early! Call BRANDAS they have what you need they are located in Pennsylvania! ;)
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: Tired Sheep on December 24, 2019, 06:29:00 PM
Oem part numbers on Branda website? I missed that
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Post by: Coralsnake on December 24, 2019, 06:43:41 PM
Do you need the numbers for all the lower scoops?

They differ by year, bodystyle and side
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 24, 2019, 07:06:25 PM
I would like the 67/68 upper scoop info and the brake duct vent hose. I will check out the recommended sites.
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 24, 2019, 07:08:33 PM
you guys are so awesome !! Cool group of people.
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: Coralsnake on December 24, 2019, 07:18:19 PM
1965 /1966 brake scoop inlet   S2MS-2259-A
1965 /1966 brake scoop outlet   S2MS-2260-A

1965 /1966 brake scoop RH   S2MS-29076-A
1965 /1966 brake scoop LH   S2MS-29077-A

1967 brake scoop RH      (Lower)  S7MS-63290A76-A 
1967 brake scoop LH      (Lower)   S7MS-63290A77-A
1967 brake scoop RH      (Upper)  S7MS-63280B62-A 
1967 brake scoop LH      (Upper)   S7MS-63280B63-A


1968 brake scoop RH      (Lower)  S8MS-63290A76-B
1968 brake scoop LH      (Lower)   S8MS-63290A77-B
1968 brake scoop RH      (Upper/fb)  S8MS-63280B62-A 
1968 brake scoop LH      (Upper/fb)   S8MS-63280B63-A


1969 brake scoop RH      (Lower/cnv)  S9MS-7628032-A
1969 brake scoop LH      (Lower/cnv)  S9MS-7628033-A
1969 brake scoop RH      (Fastback)  S9MS-6328032-A
1969 brake scoop LH      (Fastback)   S9MS-6328033-A
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: Coralsnake on December 24, 2019, 07:18:58 PM
1968 Shelbys do not use duct work, scoops are non functional

You might find reproduction duct work on the Branda website
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 24, 2019, 10:02:29 PM
was the hose between the inlet and outlet on the brake vent special ? and the clamps used on that hose ?  or what held it in place

Thank you so much Coralsnake
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 24, 2019, 10:18:02 PM
Also was there a difference in part numbers between the  functioning and non functioning brake vent scoops.

Thank you all once again
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: JD on December 24, 2019, 10:51:18 PM
There are multiple '67 Lower side scoops as not all cars had the ducting, not sure on the part number issue for those.

The cars that did have ducting - there were no clamps holding the duct "hose" to the ends - riveted.

The upper scoops are not the same as on '68's.  There were some that had lights that worked in conjunction with the tail lights Brake and turn functions.

There are threads on this forum that cover some of this, use the SEARCH function in the upper right on the home page and it will help you find existing posted info on these

What car number are you working on??.

Here are links to 2 threads an there are others:

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=433.0

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=2351.msg21337#msg21337
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: gtobill70 on December 25, 2019, 09:42:21 AM
one last question, I bought 1969 Shelby Scoops and there was an inner housing for brake ducting and if I look on eBay it shows hoses for that inner housing. Can you guide me on any info on that.


Thank you so much for your help, I wish we could meet one day so that I could buy you lunch and pick your brain :) 
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: The Going Thing on March 22, 2020, 01:52:01 PM
Branda's ducting kit is half-arsed. It uses a good copy of the fiberglass duct that rivets to the front side of the fender well, but household thin white plastic flexible hose for dryer duct.
The correct ducting can be purchased by the foot from Cobra Automotive. You can purchase just the duct by the foot.
Below is the front ducting kit. It shows the hose available. It's heavy-duty, waterproof, and black.  I saw the Branda kit installed at the shop that painted my Shelby. It looks terrible when you can see the courtesy lamp glowing in the scoop intake.

http://store.cobraautomotive.com/standard-12-front-brake-cooling-kit/
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: shelbydoug on April 14, 2020, 08:22:25 AM
I thought about the front kit but there was no way I could invision it installed that just didn't create a mess in the front.

I personally envisioned scoops pointed at the front brakes like the Cobra's used. The hose just makes a mess.

That entire thought crosses over into what you might now see on a IMSA or NASCAR with essentially electric hair driers pointed at the rotors?

I had to drawn the line somewhere and say no way? :o


Incidentally, I DID see my front brake rotors glowing in the dark, and the smoke coming off of them always made me stop and look to see if I was on fire?  ::)
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 14, 2020, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: gtobill70 on December 25, 2019, 09:42:21 AM
one last question, I bought 1969 Shelby Scoops and there was an inner housing for brake ducting and if I look on eBay it shows hoses for that inner housing. Can you guide me on any info on that.


Thank you so much for your help, I wish we could meet one day so that I could buy you lunch and pick your brain :)
The 69/70 Shelby fastback used a inner housing that the convertible did not . The fastback used a different preformed rubber hose then the one used on the convertible. Both are reproduced. FYI some of the scoops were technically functional but no 66-70 production car Shelby side scoops were practically functional for the purpose of which they were described as being intended for which was brake cooling. The ones that moved air ducted it to the surface of the tire tread not the brakes. If you think that was beneficial then you are misinformed . They were for looks but some could be called technically functional. When the functionality was discontinued because it was extra effort for no reason in later 67 and 68 production the advertising value of functional no doubt made it practical to bring back the function for 69/70. The straw like air ducts for 69/70 were laughable at moving air but they were now technically functional . The side scoops look cool but are a embarrassment to the marque I love when I have to explain what they do because it is a lie. Fortunately I have never had anyone press for details after explaining what they did .   
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 14, 2020, 04:01:54 PM
This has probably happened to all of us with '68s: 

Random guy ogling your '68 at a car show/parking lot/gas station:  "Cool car. Those Shelby brake scoops are bad ass."

Me: "Well, they're not functional."

Guy: "Huh?"

Me:  "The lower scoops are not functional on '68s. They're just for looks."

The guy then gets down on his hands and knees to look inside the scoop.

Guy: "That sucks."

Me:  "Have a nice day."
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Post by: shelbydoug on April 15, 2020, 11:27:13 AM
My scoops are functional. I have no conscious about them. I took more crap about why a Ford should have a roll bat in it?

Mostly fron de Bronx Chebby guys. That was 30 - 40 years ago.

One of them came to me a couple of years ago and said "I thought you were a retard. You kept the three cars. Now it makes you look like a genius?" Sour grapes. Screw 'em all.


Never underestimate the enemy. I know. Sometimes it's hard. They need to elevate themselves just  to get  to stupid?
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Post by: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 12:39:58 PM
Doug, What I found interesting is how much it helped stiffen the vehicle. I don't see the lateral movement on a lift that I see on most mustangs.
We've also seen pictures of more than a couple rolled Shelbys that had the bar not been there, likely the story would have been different for the occupants.
Either way, someday the Chebby and Dodge girls testes will drop. 
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: shelbydoug on April 15, 2020, 01:05:54 PM
I think that the RB stiffens the car also.

As far as the Mopar and Chevy guys go, first off, why would anyone want to put a Hemi in a Taxi cab with push buttons on the dash for power shifting?

As far as the Chevy guys go here, at my 20 year HS reunion, most of them were missing.
When you get sentenced to life for murder in NY, you don't come up for parole until 25 years?

I get it entirely. ;)
Title: Re: SCOOP
Post by: The Going Thing on April 15, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on April 15, 2020, 01:05:54 PM
I think that the RB stiffens the car also.

As far as the Mopar and Chevy guys go, first off, why would anyone want to put a Hemi in a Taxi cab with push buttons on the dash for power shifting?

As far as the Chevy guys go here, at my 20 year HS reunion, most of them were missing.
When you get sentenced to life for murder in NY, you don't come up for parole until 25 years?

I get it entirely. ;)
Funny, most of them were bald and married to ugly women too. Hmm. :o