Driving back from SW Florida to home in NE next week. We're beginning to scout out retirement locales in the Carolinas/Georgia area and looking to do some exploring next week on the trip home. My wife expressed a desire for an over 55 community and/or easy access to golf.
Do these communities have 3 car garages to keep the Shelbys close by?
Any recommendations on location?
Don't worry, we are NOT east coast liberals headed to the sunbelt, rather GOP'ers lost in the land of Taxachusetts.
Thanks Doug
Pretty much any location in NC would suit you. We prefer the Piedmont area because it's in the middle between the mountains and the beach. For golf, Pinehurst is ideal but great courses are in abundance statewide. If you're coming up I-95, take the time to check out the Pinehurst/Southern Pines area. Lots of car-crazy folks over there, too.
+1 for the Carolinas. I live in the Raleigh/Chapel Hill area, pretty much equal distance to the mountains in one direction and the coast in the other. Pick a house near a lake, and you have the best of all worlds.
Doug, check this out https://grandharbor.net/
Denny
I am going to be based in Raleigh. I will miss the five minute rides to DFW. I have grown tired of the Californians moving here that can't grasp what liberal socialist policies did to my state of origin.
Perhaps a new place for the gathering of striped snakes?
-Keith
How do they tax collector cars in NC?
Sad to hear TX is being taken over.
If your willing to move south,Mar Lago???
Too far south for me. I was stationed at Benning, Bragg and Rucker. I hate not having but two seasons. Hot and hotter. lol
-Keith
Quote from: Rodster-500 on December 31, 2019, 09:06:16 PM
How do they tax collector cars in NC?
Not just collector cars, all vehicles unless they meet the listed exemptions. Ouch !
https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/title-registration/taxes/Pages/vehicle-property-tax.aspx
Vehicles 35 years old or older may be registered as "Antique Autos" and as such will be valued at a maximum of $500 for tax purposes. In essence, your property tax on such a vehicle will be negligible.
So don't own a 1985+ car worth big $$$$ ;)
The whole package has to be considered when relocating.
An ocean view property sounds great until you price hurricane insurance!
I retired from Florida in 1998 and moved to Winstom Salam NC. At that time homes with land was very affordable along with auto insurance and property taxes. In the past few years all of them have increased. I suggest you check into the each states personal income tax which takes. (NC taxes are based on all income even from pensions from other states) Ga. And South Caroline offer tax exempts for seniors on incomes which NC does not. Looking back I have enjoyed living in NC but wish I had looked into each states tax laws, I could have saved some money!
My retirement location.
Quote from: Doug B on December 31, 2019, 11:49:16 AM
Driving back from SW Florida to home in NE next week. We're beginning to scout out retirement locales in the Carolinas/Georgia area and looking to do some exploring next week on the trip home. My wife expressed a desire for an over 55 community and/or easy access to golf.
Do these communities have 3 car garages to keep the Shelbys close by?
Any recommendations on location?
Don't worry, we are NOT east coast liberals headed to the sunbelt, rather GOP'ers lost in the land of Taxachusetts.
Thanks Doug
Your last sentence says a lot and you are welcome to look at Tennessee as per that last sentence, that is where we are in the process of moving to, lots of nice things, and positives, with the exception of State Sales Tax. Oh, HOA's are a pain, since when did they get so popular?
Adding to 67 GT350's post, Tennessee doesn't have a State income tax and their Haul Tax (tax on dividend income) goes away in 2021 entirely. Kiplinger rated Tennessee as the 5th best place nationally for retirees.
Thanks all. Great suggestions and considerations.
Doug
Come to the foothills of NC. I'm in Hickory it has everything with a river big enough for any size boat. 1 hour to Asheville, 1 hour to Charlotte, 1 hour to Blowing Rock and Boone, 4 hours to the coast of Parts of NC and SC coast. 45 minutes to Mooresville (Lake Norman). All 4 seasons max 2 snows a year and there gone in 2 days. Bring a mower, weed eater, and something to kill the weeds anything that's green grows like hell here.
You can trade places with me here in Asheville. I've been here all my life (57yrs), and this place has turned into a HELL TOWN!!!
I would go on, but some may say I'm racist!! Quiet the opposite, it's just........
Silence Now..................
I know what you mean North Carolina's San Francisco, nice place to visit but not the same town it used to be. The good thing is NC has plenty of Mountain towns there's more places to settle than Asheville.
I wasn't aware that they tried to steal your retirement AKA Social Security and Pensions. I was stationed at Bragg aka Fayettenam. It was reasonable to live there in the 80's.
As for TN, I couldn't dead-head home and had to drive Christmas day from KBNA/ Nashville. I stayed the night in Union City and went to Dixie Gun Works on the way in.
It's on the list of possibilities.
-Keith
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 01, 2020, 10:00:47 PM
You can trade places with me here in Asheville. I've been here all my life (57yrs), and this place has turned into a HELL TOWN!!!
I would go on, but some may say I'm racist!! Quiet the opposite, it's just........
Silence Now..................
I have heard many say that about Asheville, so sad to hear the cancer is invading great areas. Remember guys and gals, if we loose Texas, it is over! We are moving to Knoxville and I am hearing that that city is just starting to go that way also, but it is far off and there is many of us in the outskirts, so I think its good still.
funny on the Liberal tax bashing. I live in Mi where the Conservatives have been taxing the hell out of us and giving it to businesses. Thanks to Conservatives my pension will now be taxed in Mi(2011). My 5 late model cars got an increase of 20 percent on their registrations. On another note our catastrophic insurance we have now(220 per car=1100 for me a year) goes away which didn't happen under a Republican gov with Republican controlled legislature. Our new Democratic gov got it done with our legislature. Oh, did I mention our high gas taxes that were put forth by the Republicans? Maybe other states it is the opposite but I have been living the "CON" dream for years now in Mi... Gary
Ok to talk about the weather, quality of life, and even availability of race gas....
...but keep politics OUT of this thread.
Thanks
Drop the hammer
They dont get it
Isn't talking about some things you don't want to just avoiding the issue? A place to retire to, sorry to say, involves EVERYTHING INCLUDING SUBJECTS YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR! Please get over your fears of the truth.
Cleaning house is long overdue. I have been begging for adult supervision for two years. If you wonder why SAAC forum 2.0 is different, thats why.
Here are some options for those who dont want to talk about Shelbys...
http://www.city-data.com/forum/retirement/
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php
https://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/forums/political-discussions-freemichigan-com.76/
https://forum.veritashealth.com
Im sure these people would love your insights
Most excellent choices Carolinas and Georgia
Good luck on your move!
HEAR HEAR! Coralsnake!!
This is a car forum, let's keep it as that.
Most of us have ridiculous political opinions anyway, let those who want to vent their spleens go to political forums and fight endless fights there.
California is beautiful,I recommend it.
Nothing beautiful about California but the weather. It's so great they're all moving to Texas.
As for politics, the discussion was civil, factual and concise and commentary appropriate based on the discussion as hand. Much of it was about the ins and outs and the cost of living.
Politics and liberal lunacy will soon play a huge factor in the ownership and use of our beloved Shelbys this forum is here to promote and protect because of the usual eco-alarmist and they will become no more than a dust-collecting two ton trinket of the past if we allow it. The very freedoms paid for in blood by many of us are being eroded daily by the left because civil discourse is silenced if it is contrary to the weak minded and easily offended.
Politics are already playing a factor in our hobby and the mere mention of an internal combustion engine will soon become a crime punished in some form or another. I have already had comments made about my Shelby as the reason/contributor to so-called global warming.
Even the mention of a firearm seems to wad some people's panties discounting the fact we are free because of them, and those of us who took them up against enemies.
We are headed down the same road with our vehicles.
That wasn't political but a statement of the current infection that destroys logic and common sense and any ability for civil discussion.
P.S. I'll be in Ithaca, NY. Sunday through Wednesday if you'd like to have a face to face discussion, Ron. Monday is the only day I won't being they are interring my sister-in-law there.
Yours Truly, Keith
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 01:10:27 AM
Nothing beautiful about California but the weather. It's so great they're all moving to Texas.
As for politics, the discussion was civil, factual and concise and commentary appropriate based on the discussion as hand. Much of it was about the ins and outs and the cost of living.
Politics and liberal lunacy will soon play a huge factor in the ownership and use of our beloved Shelbys this forum is here to promote and protect because of the usual eco-alarmist and they will become no more than a dust-collecting two ton trinket of the past if we allow it. The very freedoms paid for in blood by many of us are being eroded daily by the left because civil discourse is silenced if it is contrary to the weak minded and easily offended.
Politics are already playing a factor in our hobby and the mere mention of an internal combustion engine will soon become a crime punished in some form or another. I have already had comments made about my Shelby as the reason/contributor to so-called global warming.
Even the mention of a firearm seems to wad some people's panties discounting the fact we are free because of them, and those of us who took them up against enemies.
We are headed down the same road with our vehicles.
That wasn't political but a statement of the current infection that destroys logic and common sense and any ability for civil discussion.
P.S. I'll be in Ithaca, NY. Sunday through Wednesday if you'd like to have a face to face discussion, Ron. Monday is the only day I won't being they are interring my sister-in-law there.
Yours Truly, Keith
Beg to differ,there are many,many beautiful things about California,if you have an open mind.History is one of those beautiful things.Think Shelby American Inc. would have happened anywhere else?? I don't...Native born and I will die here(If I have anything to say about it)Oh yeah,no rust..... so there's that.. 8)
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 01:10:27 AM
Politics are already playing a factor in our hobby and the mere mention of an internal combustion engine will soon become a crime punished in some form or another. I have already had comments made about my Shelby as the reason/contributor to so-called global warming.
Yours Truly, Keith
This APP shows,
in real time, where air pollution is generated;
https://www.windy.Com/-CO-concentration-cosc?cosc,40.914,146.602,3
557:
I am a native as well. California itself contributed little to the nation we know but was a benefactor of the expansion and money that came from the east.
I miss the weather and my time at the Chino Air Museum. I don't miss the 2.5 hour commute each way on the 91 freeway everyday.
I grew up in Los Angeles County. Not too far from Mc Donnell Douglas. I being five minutes from the beach and two hours from the mountains. It hasn't been the same place since the 90's.
My alma mater is UCLA. I am ashamed of what has been done. The exodus speaks for itself. Sadly they didn't learn the lessons from where they are fleeing so they are following the same pattern. It makes no sense.
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 01, 2020, 10:00:47 PM
You can trade places with me here in Asheville. I've been here all my life (57yrs), and this place has turned into a HELL TOWN!!!
Asheville was originally on our list, then we took a drive downtown to eat at one of the many restaurants we had heard about. Once we found a place to park truck and trailer (bike shop was gracious enough to allow us space in their lot), we were accosted by the plentiful "alternative living" folks who have clearly invaded the town. Outskirts are beautiful, but we wanted a town we could walk around in day or night and feel safe. Where we are in SC, we are only an hour to Asheville, in the years we have been here, we have only gone back three times, always to visit with friends who are passing through that area.....
Bill
PS: $35 is what I just paid in annual 2020 taxes for the 69 Shelby here in SC, just saying ;)
+ 1
Very eloquently and well expressed.
This is still America, we still have freedom of expressions and movement. All the gentleman asked was for a opinion as to where to reside. All everyone is doing is replying with their recommendations.
Our condolences to you and your family on your loss
That is all, carry on
Came back in to ask, do you want to stay in the states?
I hear sweden is a swell place to reside. We have contacts within that can help in relocation
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 01:10:27 AM
Nothing beautiful about California but the weather. It's so great they're all moving to Texas.
As for politics, the discussion was civil, factual and concise and commentary appropriate based on the discussion as hand. Much of it was about the ins and outs and the cost of living.
Politics and liberal lunacy will soon play a huge factor in the ownership and use of our beloved Shelbys this forum is here to promote and protect because of the usual eco-alarmist and they will become no more than a dust-collecting two ton trinket of the past if we allow it. The very freedoms paid for in blood by many of us are being eroded daily by the left because civil discourse is silenced if it is contrary to the weak minded and easily offended.
Politics are already playing a factor in our hobby and the mere mention of an internal combustion engine will soon become a crime punished in some form or another. I have already had comments made about my Shelby as the reason/contributor to so-called global warming.
Even the mention of a firearm seems to wad some people's panties discounting the fact we are free because of them, and those of us who took them up against enemies.
We are headed down the same road with our vehicles.
That wasn't political but a statement of the current infection that destroys logic and common sense and any ability for civil discussion.
P.S. I'll be in Ithaca, NY. Sunday through Wednesday if you'd like to have a face to face discussion, Ron. Monday is the only day I won't being they are interring my sister-in-law there.
Yours Truly, Keith
I think NC has become "non-competitive" in the market of retirement relocations. TN has no sales tax. GA gives significant property tax breaks to the retired (varies by County I think). I am not familiar with SC so won't comment.
NC has state income tax, charges annual tax on personal property (cars, etc.) and does not offer any Homestead Exemption. Beautiful place though - I live West of Asheville in the summer and it is a great place to be. I am sure you could duplicate it in TN or GA though.
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 01:10:27 AM
Nothing beautiful about California but the weather. It's so great they're all moving to Texas.
As for politics, the discussion was civil, factual and concise and commentary appropriate based on the discussion as hand. Much of it was about the ins and outs and the cost of living.
Politics and liberal lunacy will soon play a huge factor in the ownership and use of our beloved Shelbys this forum is here to promote and protect because of the usual eco-alarmist and they will become no more than a dust-collecting two ton trinket of the past if we allow it. The very freedoms paid for in blood by many of us are being eroded daily by the left because civil discourse is silenced if it is contrary to the weak minded and easily offended.
Politics are already playing a factor in our hobby and the mere mention of an internal combustion engine will soon become a crime punished in some form or another. I have already had comments made about my Shelby as the reason/contributor to so-called global warming.
Even the mention of a firearm seems to wad some people's panties discounting the fact we are free because of them, and those of us who took them up against enemies.
We are headed down the same road with our vehicles.
That wasn't political but a statement of the current infection that destroys logic and common sense and any ability for civil discussion.
P.S. I'll be in Ithaca, NY. Sunday through Wednesday if you'd like to have a face to face discussion, Ron. Monday is the only day I won't being they are interring my sister-in-law there.
Yours Truly, Keith
WOW, I could not agree with you more! When the conversation is about a nice place to retire to, how can you not talk about politics (political climate) when the move can be the most important decision of your lives! I don't know one Shelby owner here who would buy a Shelby without opening the hood upon inspection. Maybe??? Are there a few who have done that??? WOW! And, some might like to live where property taxes run about an average of $10K in NY anyway. They might enjoy giving the locals all that money, after all, potholes are everywhere here. We get to enjoy our cars about 6 months out of the year.
As far as the 1/2 part of the "Dumb and Dumber" states (that would be California and New York), I am sure CA is a beautiful State, (some of my family has lived there for many years, moved out since), Upstate New York is also beautiful, the Finger Lakes are a wonderful place, (although you can see the decay), we have many wonderful places to go, and we have NYC with up until a few years ago was a fun place to go, I will not enter that zone anymore after my last visit. What I hate is the $20K plus property taxes a home owner will pay a year, yes a year! Unless you own a house that is $100K or less maybe you can get away with about $5-7K a year? My mother's house 5 years ago was $7900.00 for a house that we sold for 135K....That is what I will not miss!
This post has not politics, with the exception of the word and relative conversation.
I am going up to my garage now to pull out the motor out of my GT350 so I can put it up for sale and tell everyone it runs great! And, you don't need to open the hood to look at the motor, trust me! You don't need to open the hood on it, because you will not be allowed to ask about it....LOL
Anyway, good luck in finding your safe haven! You have 50 choices and I can think of 3 I would not touch...I hear Idaho is not as nice as it used to be either....(climate change has hit there also).
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 02:56:15 AM
557:
I am a native as well. California itself contributed little to the nation we know but was a benefactor of the expansion and money that came from the east.
I miss the weather and my time at the Chino Air Museum. I don't miss the 2.5 hour commute each way on the 91 freeway everyday.
I grew up in Los Angeles County. Not too far from Mc Donnell Douglas. I being five minutes from the beach and two hours from the mountains. It hasn't been the same place since the 90's.
My alma mater is UCLA. I am ashamed of what has been done. The exodus speaks for itself. Sadly they didn't learn the lessons from where they are fleeing so they are following the same pattern. It makes no sense.
https://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/ Property values and rent dictates there isn't an "exodus" like you speak of. My Son lives in West LA so I am very aware of the costs of property and rent. I guess the term supply and demand doesn't apply to California if everyone is leaving in droves.
Politifact is garbage. The property taxes are limited by Proposition 13 to 1% assessed value. That includes school taxes. Much of the populous that is exiting is skilled labor which is being replaced by illegal aliens. Business has been exiting in droves since the late 80's because of the unfriendly climate. What I stated is fact compiled by US government statistics, not biased garbage.
As for West Hollywood. We won't discuss it's majority of inhabitants.
Quote from: 67 GT350 on January 03, 2020, 10:39:08 AM
I hear Idaho is not as nice as it used to be either....(climate change has hit there also).
That's right - Idaho sucks.
Keep moving along. Nothing to see here.
;)
LOL, Good one!
As far as California not contributing to the nation....fiction.....Economic powerhouse and all the benefits(taxes) distributed to everyone else's benefit as well....entertainment.....music.....food....on and on....you are welcome.....
Sweden as an alternative. Lol! Good one Tony from a few posts back. I'm half Icelandic, though a Canadian originally. Now I'm 'Merican. I wouldn't move to any Scandinavian country. I'm pretty content to be here in the U.S. Far better than Canada from my point of view. I wouldn't be who I am today had I not moved to the U.S. I wouldn't be a lawyer. I don't think I would have written a book or composed music had I not moved to the U.S. I don't even think I would have owned my red Hertz either. It was a smart move to come to the States for me. Despite the problems, this country still inspires me on many levels to get out and accomplish things. Being here in the U.S. really motivates me. This country gave me a great start. The rest was and is up to me. There will always be good areas and bad areas. Hopefully the bad areas don't spread out too far and wide. Just choose a good weapon with sufficient magazine capacity and all is fine. LOL. Even bad people aren't bullet proof. Except for John Wicks of course (but technically he wasn't bad but rather bad ass). I once saw him kill three men with a pencil! I live in Chicagoland (though a good 30 miles away from the City). As an addendum, Tennessee and NC impressed me (the areas I saw that is) i.e. Tail of the Dragon and adjoining areas.
Best, Richard E.
All states have a way of getting their tax Tenn. does not have income tax but you will pay over 9% in sales tax on cars and I think everything else correct me if wrong. NC has 3% sales tax on cars with no cap. S.C. Has a 5% tax on cars with a 500 maximum. I also have a house in SC and their property taxes are cheaper if you are a full time resident, if you have a vacation house your property tax is triple that of full time SC residents they call it a school tax.
Y'all need to expand your horizons. I would move to the Principality of Sealand. A beautiful an sovereign nation located in the calm and peaceful North Sea. Low taxes and a zero crime rate make this an ideal place to retire.
Sealand. Lol. Are there any direct flights there?
Uruguay.....l
How about the fuel cost factor? California is not good in that regard, especially for those of us with thirsty motors.
This is good site to compare different areas cost of living (less taxes) to make an educated decision. You can customize your choices to check one against the other.
https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/knoxville-tn/charlotte-nc/50000
Again most excellent choices the Carolinas and Georgia
Good luck on your move!
Quote from: CSX 4133 on January 04, 2020, 10:45:10 AM
This is good site to compare different areas cost of living (less taxes) to make an educated decision. You can customize your choices to check one against the other.
https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/knoxville-tn/charlotte-nc/50000
wouldn't the taxes be a major factor?Such as [real estate] Property tax (extremely high here in NJ), personal property tax, income tax on retirement income, income tax, sales tax, fuel tax??
Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on January 03, 2020, 11:56:46 AM
Politifact is garbage. The property taxes are limited by Proposition 13 to 1% assessed value. That includes school taxes. Much of the populous that is exiting is skilled labor which is being replaced by illegal aliens. Business has been exiting in droves since the late 80's because of the unfriendly climate. What I stated is fact compiled by US government statistics, not biased garbage.
As for West Hollywood. We won't discuss it's majority of inhabitants.
I'm all about learning something new so please feel free to message me those government statistics that you are using as your base so I can be better informed on how California is turning into a bunch of illegals and businesses are leaving by the droves. I guess my son is the exception to the rule(Masters in finance and has passed the 3 CFA exams) when he moved there a few years ago to find a job because he couldn't in Mi.
Quote from: mark p on January 04, 2020, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: CSX 4133 on January 04, 2020, 10:45:10 AM
This is good site to compare different areas cost of living (less taxes) to make an educated decision. You can customize your choices to check one against the other.
https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/knoxville-tn/charlotte-nc/50000
wouldn't the taxes be a major factor?Such as [real estate] Property tax (extremely high here in NJ), personal property tax, income tax on retirement income, income tax, sales tax, fuel tax??
It appears that most here on the SAAC forum are all about MONEY first and Family second? As retirement looms for me i'll be where my kids are or the majority of them. For me that is Michigan with my taxes on my pension thanks to our politicians.
So, one kid is in New York, one kid is in Idaho, and one kid is in Florida, which if you follow your kids, I should divorce, my x can more to one, I can move to another, and our cat can go to the third? My one brother bought a condo in SC and they are thinking their kids might visit them. Interesting way to pick a place to live. They do not plan on, that's the funny part....Snowbirds? I don't get that, why keep a house and pay taxes on it and worry about it when your not there?
Anyway, great conversation and arguments!
I want to touch on the politics issue that SAAC seems to have, how about a place on this forum labeled "politics" when if you get scared on such a subject, you can choose not to go?
Some of the things that I will be looking at is if the location I'm interested in has real estate taxes, school taxes, personal property taxes AND does it have a full time Police Department or is it a County Sheriff patrol? Does it have a volunteer Fire Department or full time? Does it have local schools or just one county High School?
Is it well water or public water supply? Are their public sewers or just septic tanks?
Items like this will tell you what the nature of the area is like.
Where I am at now gives a discount to real estate taxes for Seniors. Gasolene is about the same. Gas & Electric is high. Other utilities keep creeping up. Food prices are higher in rural areas for lack of competition of the big food chains.
Also, I want real pavement, not dirt roads.
Everyone has different considerations and if you move a fairly remote area make sure you aren't in fire prone areas with a volunteer fire department. They might take a vote on whether to save your house and they might turn it down because you only bought one keg of beer at the picnic last year?
I don't like getting my brake scoops full of cow manure driving "the country roads" either. Call me picky.
Quoteall the benefits(taxes) distributed to everyone else's benefit as well.
:-X
Hey, I've said it before and I'll say it again: North Carolina may not be "God's Country" but it's where he goes on vacation! ;)
Quote from: 67 GT350 on January 04, 2020, 11:45:00 AM
So, one kid is in New York, one kid is in Idaho, and one kid is in Florida, which if you follow your kids, I should divorce, my x can more to one, I can move to another, and our cat can go to the third? My one brother bought a condo in SC and they are thinking their kids might visit them. Interesting way to pick a place to live. They do not plan on, that's the funny part....Snowbirds? I don't get that, why keep a house and pay taxes on it and worry about it when your not there?
Anyway, great conversation and arguments!
I want to touch on the politics issue that SAAC seems to have, how about a place on this forum labeled "politics" when if you get scared on such a subject, you can choose not to go?
you missed my point as many never mention areas -say where there kids may live- and want to know areas in a general vicinity. They are asking for any areas around the country it appears hence my comment. Hey NOBODY likes paying high taxes and I hate my Mi taxes as mentioned before. Hey, some don't have kids. Others don't speak to their kids. Lots of different scenarios but that wasn't the vibe I was getting. A friend of mine is getting ready to retire and he is focused on areas in NC near where his Daughter lives now. My parents have been snowbirds since 1996(Mom still is just left for Florida Sat- Dad passed away in 2018). All 4 of us kids visit them in Florida with the Grand kids for the last 25 years(great grand kids now too). 3 Months away with your kids visiting many can take(Mom goes 4 months now). I get why some are snowbirds. My parents rented instead of buying because of all the condo BS. My Mom now pays 12.5K for a little over 4 months 2 bedroom corner unit ocean front in Jensen Beach. Better than paying taxes, insurance and special assessments plus upkeep to the Condo(salt air messes with a LOT of stuff).Worrying about your house while you are away? Well many of my friends and coworkers own more than one house and usually it is "up North" as we call it here in lower Mi. They do not seem to worry about their 2nd homes while down in lower Mi or Ohio or Illinois. Politics? I wish those that can't help themselves use a little more restraint or the Moderator should create a politics section. I can very well hold my own on calling out fake political BS as I ALWAYS bring facts to the table. :) Gary
Colorado is a great place, except for all the Liberals. If you were in the western or southern part, mostly conservitaves. Ron
Food for thought: Many ,if not most,of my neighbors don't share my "political affiliation " and we get along great.How??? We are all adult enough to leave it alone.Thats why voting booths are private as well....