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Title: Any good Holley Carburetor rebuiders on here?
Post by: 69mach351w on February 05, 2020, 08:35:47 PM
I'm needing a Holley 2 bbl rebuilt.  Where I'm at there is nobody.

Any info will be appreciated,

Rich

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Post by: jk66gt350 on February 05, 2020, 08:52:30 PM
I was told that Joe Bunetic is one of the best at rebuilding Holley carbs.  I believe he is in the Chicago area,
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Post by: Rocket on February 05, 2020, 09:06:10 PM
Joe is just over in Illinois from St Louis. He is the man to restore them to make them look brand new. I had mine off of 6S550 done by him, and did not put it back on because it looked too nice.  Contact Jim Cowles if you are looking to get it running like new. I think he uses a man in North Carolina for that. Ron
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Post by: 557 on February 05, 2020, 09:52:27 PM
Culver carburetor in Culver City ,ca. rebuilt em last time I checked....
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 05, 2020, 10:13:15 PM
We covered this recently. I wouldn't use Joe Bunetic.  Use Drew Pojedinec.  He's on the forum. He doesn't just restore the finish and slap a kit in them. He fixes issues with them. He went through my BJ-BKs and set them up on his engine. They ran right out of the box with the exception of the curb idle speed.
If you want them done right and with no issues that's where you send them. The turn around time is good too.

                                                                                                   -Keith
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Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 05, 2020, 10:51:05 PM
Dang it. I just sent a carb to Joe a few weeks ago.  :'(
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Post by: 427Larry on February 06, 2020, 06:55:23 AM
If you want the best, Willys Carb. & Dyno, Mt. Carmel, IL. This guy is beyond genius. Look him up on the internet. He is at Daytona speed week right now, working with his customers, he will be back February, 17th. I have been using him for 30 years, he just did my original 427 Lemans carb. and got me another 20-30 h.p. He does it internally, so it looks original.
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 06, 2020, 10:40:08 PM
No way you got 30 HP from a carb rebuild.  He also isn't known by anyone on the FE forum, which speaks volumes.
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Post by: BGlover67 on February 06, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
PM sent
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Post by: JWH on February 06, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
I am not trying to steer you one way or another but I could not be happier with the set of BJ/BK carbs Joe Buetic restored for me. He was able to source original parts that were missing on the carbs, the car starts easily, warms up through the choke cycle, idles great and accelerates quite nicely thank you. And the carbs look like works of art. (Ruben I am confident you will be very pleased when you get your carb back).
Jeff
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 06, 2020, 11:16:20 PM
Rueben:
They look good. Drew is an engineer who found something two other Ford Carb builders didn't I posted about this in a previous post and him running the carbs on his dual quad galaxie and dialing them in. It require almost NO adjustment when they were returned. Joe's build did what they did when sent to the other builder recommended here returned them.  They metering blocks had incorrectly machined ports in them. It caused a rich idle that nothing could correct. He found the issue and corrected it. Who checks all the metering block passage sizes. Not either of the aforementioned. You're not going to get that from a box builder. However, you feel free to throw your money in the trash. It seems many here have plenty to do so with.


 
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Post by: 427heaven on February 06, 2020, 11:19:10 PM
I used Joe as well and am happy with his work. Its like asking which motor oil is better, you will find one you like  and continue to use it for what ever reasons you choose. ;D
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Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 06, 2020, 11:35:38 PM
Rueben:
They look good. Drew is an engineer who found something two other Ford Carb builders didn't I posted about this in a previous post and him running the carbs on his dual quad galaxie and dialing them in. It require almost NO adjustment when they were returned. Joe's build did what they did when sent to the other builder recommended here returned them.  They metering blocks had incorrectly machined ports in them. It caused a rich idle that nothing could correct. He found the issue and corrected it. Who checks all the metering block passage sizes. Not either of the aforementioned. You're not going to get that from a box builder. However, you feel free to throw your money in the trash. It seems many here have plenty to do so with.

Wow. I thought you’d have strong feelings on this subject.

I kid. 😉
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Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 06, 2020, 11:37:38 PM
Well, I’ll do a report out once I get my carb back from Joe. 👍🏻

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Post by: silverton_ford on February 07, 2020, 01:59:47 AM
Joe did an S2MS carb for me about two years ago and it turned out great!   He told me he did the 1-2-3 finishing GT350s at Pebble Beach in 2015.   I'm sure there are other good rebuilders too, but Joe did a great job for me.
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Post by: 427Larry on February 07, 2020, 06:20:56 AM
1967' Eightbarrel,  What speaks volume is that NASCAR paid Willy one and half million dollars for one days worth of work, because he got 1 1/2 h.p in that time frame, (and by the way Tony Stewart was there when that happended), and NASCAR called him because of his reputation. You know of any other carb. builder who got paid that, I don't think so. His carburetors he makes (patented), 650 CFM will work on a 950h.p. With his carbs. you can tune every cylinder perfectly, and no flood stall with his patented bowls (Holley has been trying to buy him out for years). Just two years ago, every racing engine builder engine was 1-2 h.p apart, and Willy came in with his new carb., and got 20-30 h.p on the first day. Like I said he beyond genius, and a really nice guy to boot. Before you doubt someone, you ought to know your facts, my carb. does in fact make another 30h.p., every carb. he does goes on one of dyno's ( he has three), before it leaves his shop, so he knows exactly what h.p. it makes. Another nice thing that he does, is he will set them up for ethanol, if you are running that. Ask any racer and he will tell you if you are not running a Willy's carb., you are simply are not competitive.
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Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 07, 2020, 10:24:37 AM
Well he seems to have some background having NASCAR winning products in a VERY competitive series.  "Willy’s Carburetor and Dyno Shop manufactures high performance carburetors for racing engines. Established in 1985, Willy builds asphalt and dirt circle track racing carburetors, as well as drag racing, marine, truck pulling, and pro street carbs. He builds for both gasoline and alcohol burning engines. Willys’ team of skilled technicians work to build the best possible carburetors for the customers’ specific requirements. He DOES 2BBLs also.
http://www.willyscarbs.com/850-cup-carburetors/
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Post by: Royce Peterson on February 07, 2020, 11:11:32 AM
Joe has been restoring carburetors for me for at least 30 years. Fantastic attention to detail and restoration of all appearance items, plating, ink stamps, colors of plating and colors of anodizing. Joe worked at the Holley shop in the 1980's where he learned how to build them properly. Very satisfying to plop one of Joe's works of art on your engine and have it light off and run perfectly every time.

I also used Mike Ulrey years ago and he also did fine work but Mike passed away maybe 10 years ago. 

I was told that Joe Bunetic is one of the best at rebuilding Holley carbs.  I believe he is in the Chicago area,
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Post by: Jbarela on February 07, 2020, 12:22:08 PM
I sent our carb to Curt, he sent it out to Joe for me. When Joe finished with his incredible restoration and rebuild Curt had his guy go through it and blue print it. When it came back home I put it on and a few pedal pumps and she runs great!! I highly recommend Joe for an incredible restoration, and Curt's guy for the blueprinting work. Hands down, worth the money.
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 07, 2020, 03:41:25 PM
You can make them "look good" all day.  Those whose cars roll on and off a trailer they're great. I explained what Drew did to correct mine Holley didn't machine them correctly. Drew checks EVERY orifice on them to make sure they spec out. It was missed by the recommended builder here and we had the discussion about it ruining an engine.. I am not running a stock PI with a stock cam.  Drew also runs the carb and sets them up. He is more than fair price wise. Did you bother to look at what your recommended rebuilder charges? Joe doesn't run them. Ask me how I know.
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Post by: mygt350 on February 07, 2020, 05:32:38 PM
Drew Pojedinec at Air Fuel Spark does an exceptional job on Holley Carbs. Sent my sick 715 to him and when reinstalled, engine runs fantastic.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=air%20fuel%20spark&epa=SEARCH_BOX

Drew is a member of this forum
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Post by: sd427 on February 07, 2020, 07:14:09 PM
Culver carburetor in Culver City ,ca. rebuilt em last time I checked....

Did Culver Carb close? Tried googling Culver Carb and came across a company named California Carb & Auto Repair in Lawndale, says it bought Culver Carb in 2007.
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 07, 2020, 10:40:13 PM
Drew Pojedinec at Air Fuel Spark does an exceptional job on Holley Carbs. Sent my sick 715 to him and when reinstalled, engine runs fantastic.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=air%20fuel%20spark&epa=SEARCH_BOX

Drew is a member of this forum
I highly recommend Drew. He has perfected the finish and flat out does fantastic work, fairly priced and solved an issue that a big dollar rebuilder missed.
I can't say enough about his service, willingness to field calls and walk you through any issue.
Holley had screwed up and drilled two different sizes of holes in the same metering block. It constantly dripped fuel into the intake on the rear carb. I had a set of rings that didn't seat and the fuel in the oil destroyed the bearings. Had I not sent them to him it would have been missed and I'd have gone through it once again. It ran so rich at idle it was miserable to drive.
                                                                                -Keith
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Post by: Side-Oilers on February 07, 2020, 11:57:25 PM
I don't know if the Culver Carburetor you reference is the same place as the old shop by the same name when I lived in Culver City, back in the 1960s-70s.

I stopped in there a couple of times, back in the day, but the guy who owned the place was a cranky old dude who wasn't interested in helping a teenager understand anything.

It was on Washington Place, just east of Sepulveda.   
https://www.loopnet.com/property/11167-washington-pl-culver-city-ca-90232/06037-4213017002/

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Post by: 557 on February 08, 2020, 12:28:46 AM
That was the place alright,they did a great job rebuilding my Holley.
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Post by: 2112 on February 08, 2020, 12:35:47 AM
Keith, are you running a pressure regulator between your pump and log?
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 08, 2020, 02:27:54 AM
No regulator. I am running a 427 canister filter.  I would be careful with the Carter unit currently made.. It was running 8-9lbs. The Edelbrock runs 6-6.5 so there is no issue with the needle being bumped off the seat.

                                                                            -Keith
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 08, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
That Carter unit has caused a lot of drama for folks. Some of them don’t self regulate all that well.

As far as carburetor rebuilders,
Willy’s is indeed an awesome fella.
BLP is as well.
There are many rebuilders out there who can do a very good job.
For generic or race carbs I would trust a dozen builders out there.

For restoring work where you save the original parts at all cost, a restorer becomes more important.
Joe Bunetic and I do both do restorations.
Mr Joe has been restoring carbs as long as I’ve been alive. The only difference I have seen in our end Result is testing them. Half the time you probably don’t need to, but I hate finding the occasional problem child.

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Post by: kingchief on February 08, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
Hi Drew.  How do we make contact with you?  I do not do Facebook so the link is nothing here.

Thanks again for all you do for this hobby.

All the best,

Steve
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 08, 2020, 09:24:31 AM
Just pm me here. If you prefer text or email let me know via pm and we will go like that.
I work 28/28 offshore and when I get home I do about 30 restorations.... so as nice as phone calls are, I like having a text format to refer to for our conversation. Helps me stay organized 😀
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Post by: cbrown on February 08, 2020, 09:29:29 AM
Drew, fixed my carb on my drag pack car that one of the restorers we are talking about seemed have missed when he restored. I think He is being professional right now and not commenting  on the issue I had as he knows who did my carb.  ;)    Drew was is fast and fair with great communication..

chris
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 08, 2020, 09:40:17 AM
Lol, Chris, as a policy I do not talk badly about any other builder.
We are all human and overlook things.

Btw, when doing inventory last week I found a GTI choke cap. If you have not found a replacement elsewhere, drop me a line and I’ll send it to you when I get home in March.
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Post by: shelbymann1970 on February 08, 2020, 09:58:06 AM
A friend last night was telling me about a guy he knows who has started doing carbs again. He retired from Holley. He has done a few carbs for him for a 63.5 Galaxie Kosin Auto parts NASCAR stocker that my friend is helping a Widow with. Hopefully I will get my 69 M-code 735  carb done and see how it comes out. He also dyes them. If/when it is done i'll report back. Gary
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Post by: 427heaven on February 08, 2020, 10:12:41 AM
Drew- That's a class act response. There is enough room for everyone to play in our sandbox if they so choose. Slinging fecal matter about never helped anyone or anything. There are a handful of you guys that restore vintage stuff, and there are a handful of guys that can ring out every last fraction of horsepower with newer carb technology. Most know where to look for these guys, if not they can come here and make their choices on where to go for their individual needs. Thanks for your contributions to this great Hobby.!  ;)
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Post by: 2112 on February 08, 2020, 12:05:19 PM
My Drew restored/blueprinted carbs;

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Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 08, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
My Drew restored/blueprinted carbs;

Looks great, Michael! And, man - you’re super organized with the drawers in the background. I’m feeling quite “Shade Tree” right now. 😉
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 08, 2020, 01:27:24 PM
Looks great, Michael! And, man - you’re super organized with the drawers in the background. I’m feeling quite “Shade Tree” right now. 😉

That is because the picture is from my shop where I probably have 100,000 holley pieces in 10 of those bins.
Btw, the bins are an akro mills product, best deal is via Zoro, $50 each and free shipping. Very nice way to organize. Better picture with the intake setups.
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Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 08, 2020, 02:07:18 PM
Nice!!! 👍🏻

Michael: compliment retracted. 😜
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Post by: 2112 on February 08, 2020, 04:08:23 PM
Nice!!! 👍🏻

Michael: compliment retracted. 😜

That’s cool , not like I earned it 🤓
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 08, 2020, 09:35:30 PM
Drew organized?  Not a chance!  ;D Thank you again for sorting out my BJ-BK's that were AFU!

                                                                     -Keith
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 09, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
One of my favorites.
An old established company did this.

Stock jets are 66.  They had a 74 on one side, other side wasn’t drilled, only had a .024 pilot hole.
The saddest part is they did a lot of drilling in the metering block on a pair of bk/bj Gt500 carbs. Very hard to plug .026 holes. Had to drill and tap with mini set screws to return to stock calibration... but original parts are forever altered.
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 09, 2020, 08:29:14 AM
WTF? Why?
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 09, 2020, 08:35:57 AM
WTF? Why?

The small jet?  Just an oversight. Slow down and inspect each part.
The large jets, extra bleed holes, etc?  Arrogance. Thinking you know better than the engineers in 1963.
I’m smart enough to know that I’m not that smart lol.
Very few factory carbs need much massaging, if so it is very very small changes. Stock BJ/BK’s really only benefit from changing the pump nozzle from .021 to .025, and if a massive radical engine, maybe enlarge IFR from .026 to .028
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Post by: 1967 eight barrel on February 09, 2020, 09:17:07 AM
Drew: It was the IFR that was two different sizes on my carb, correct?
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on February 09, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
Idle air bleed.

Stock for 550cfm carbs like yours should be.070
Your secondary carb had .070, the primary had .061 on one side and .070 on the other. Would have made tuning impossible.
If mixture screws were set properly at idle you would have had trouble at light throttle, like idling around a parking lot or slowly taking off from a stop light. Probably would have bucked, or shuddered as it swung lean/rich/lean. Just guessing tho.
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Post by: jk66gt350 on May 14, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
Drew rebuilt and restored the 3360 and 3361 Holleys on my 2 x 4 bbl setup.  Got them back last week and I got them re-installed and dialed in this week.  Drew's work exceeded my expectations!  The carbs are like eye candy and the car has never run better. 
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Post by: vtgt500 on May 15, 2021, 03:23:44 PM
I'm see a lot of hype, but no substance.  Generally, on well used carbs the bores for the throttle shaft(s) will wear egg-shaped.  Vacuum leaks become serious.  Where a new throttle plate assembly is not available, necessary to use a small, jig bore to pic up on the original center line, and bore over size.  Index to the opposite side and bore in perfect alignment.  Lathe turn a bronze sleeve, slip fit into the new bores using Loctite.  Finally, ream the bronze repair sleeves in place for .0002 clearance with new throttle shafts.  Any less is just aesthetics.
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Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 15, 2021, 04:45:14 PM
I've always been able to rebuild my own carbs and have them work. I haven't looked for the final pony or best finish. The comment about checking each part is the best advice. 1/2 the time when you buy a used carb from some guy at the swap meet who has 20-30 of them you'll find it put together with the wrong parts. If you see some that have been tinkered with for more HP run away. Every seller will tell you it was prepped by God and the best thing since sliced bread when in fact it was some guy under his shade tree with a hammer.
There is a PDF file on the Holley site that lists all the part numbers for each carb. Base plate, metering blocks, gaskets, jets as shipped etc. https://documents.holley.com/techlibrary_carb_numerical_listing.pdf

I'm going to try the Track Warrior on my 310" Cleveland. Roush ran an 830 but I couldn't find one so I got a new 850. If it doesn't work I'll have to drag out my old 750 and look for a 460 to put this one on.
(https://i.imgur.com/2PSVNPkm.jpg)
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 16, 2021, 03:48:33 PM
I'm see a lot of hype, but no substance.  Generally, on well used carbs the bores for the throttle shaft(s) will wear egg-shaped.  Vacuum leaks become serious.  Where a new throttle plate assembly is not available, necessary to use a small, jig bore to pic up on the original center line, and bore over size.  Index to the opposite side and bore in perfect alignment.  Lathe turn a bronze sleeve, slip fit into the new bores using Loctite.  Finally, ream the bronze repair sleeves in place for .0002 clearance with new throttle shafts.  Any less is just aesthetics.

A few questions:
-Was this directed at anyone in particular?
-In a Holley baseplate, what wears first, the baseplate or the brass throttle shaft?
-these shaft vacuum leaks. What overall effect does one have on an engine?

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Post by: vtgt500 on May 18, 2021, 08:35:36 AM
A few questions:
-Was this directed at anyone in particular?
-In a Holley baseplate, what wears first, the baseplate or the brass throttle shaft?
-these shaft vacuum leaks. What overall effect does one have on an engine?

A few answers:
-No.  Assumption is carburetor is being rebuilt to due to wear induced loss of performance and improve upon original function.
-My experience is throttle shafts are low carbon steel and throttle plates are an aluminum or zinc die casting.  Latter shafts have a PTFE coating.  In time, vacuum attracted grit is drawn into the bores wearing both shafts and plate.
-Throttle shaft vacuum leaks are no different than any other vacuum leak.  Loss of air:fuel ratio calibration, rough idle, overall performance loss.

Everyone works to a different standard.  Important buyers have the best knowledge base to shop wisely.
For reference only, https://www.carburetor-blog.com/knowledge-base/throttle-shafts-and-bushings/

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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 18, 2021, 09:14:16 PM
Pre Colt Ford throttle shafts are brass.
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Post by: gt350hr on May 19, 2021, 02:09:15 PM
   I have made my personal collection of over 50 original Holley engineering sheets available to Drew as he needs them. These feature all the specifications ( some hand written) and in some cases the "source" carb being modified.
    Randy
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 19, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
I do need to get those from you and scanned. I am a data nerd. I just love reading about how and why they did what for a specific purpose. Both to learn from and replicate as needed.

Been busy, 98 carbs in 76 days has been exhausting.
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Post by: Side-Oilers on May 20, 2021, 12:08:18 AM
Cool photo. You're the man! 

Now you just need something like ten 1700 cubic-inch V-12 Allison engines on test stands, to fire-up all them Holleys at once.
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Post by: Drew Pojedinec on May 20, 2021, 07:45:14 AM
That would save me a ton of time....