Another 1966 GT350 saved this week. Check it out here. https://www.facebook.com/bosscars429/posts/1348844928633364 (https://www.facebook.com/bosscars429/posts/1348844928633364)
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I saw this earlier today on Facebook. Incredible that they left the car outside for all those years! :'(
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on February 07, 2020, 05:49:25 PM
Incredible that they left the car outside for all those years! :'(
Especially considering Shelbys have not been a undiscovered secret over the last 40 years.
Painful yet exciting to see all at once. Like finding a centuries old gold statue in the Amazonian rain forest. Much appreciation for these photos.
Best,
Richard E
That is painful to see but I am glad it is being saved!
Hi Brain,
Thanks for sharing. Keep the pictures coming.
Catch you later
Cory
Great to see but the comment "scared it would break in half" makes me think that 40 years in the mud had been pretty catastrophic, hope not
Look at the rockers.... :o
A Vin and some parts on this one is about what you have to start with. I would love to see some detailed under carriage photos just to show what all that time in the mud did to it. If the owner kept it that long outside in the mud, I doubt the new owner got a crazy deal on it either. He probably came to the decision of "I have to save this one" so he stepped up to get it.
What number?
This is truly unbelievable that they found two ( this one and the red one ) almost simultaneously
Es un milagro !
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop. Some more details in the video. The vin tag is a little unclear but my guess is 6S1582 (?). I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on February 10, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
This is truly unbelievable that they found two ( this one and the red one ) almost simultaneously
They tend to come in bunches or its just that you remember them that way or pay more attention. A few years back 3 Black Hertz all turned up available locally within 4 seeks of one another all were about the same condition and sold for about the same price.
10 months before that two 65's turn up locally - didn't know of either of them before that. All 5 cars had been off the road for more than 30 years
And of course one thinks to themselves - That has to be it can't be any more in hiding ::)
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop. Some more details in the video. The vin tag is a little unclear but my guess is 6S1582 (?). I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on April 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop... I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
+1Seems
very strange for a guy as experienced & knowledgeable as Rick Parker to give a low number like that? He did say that it would take 2 years. Needs new seats, restore steering wheel, lots of new metal, etc... how much is just a good paint job - and what about the engine?? ???
I had no rust on my vehicle. I had to replace the left and right front aprons and the top of the apron over the shock towers. The rest of the vehicle was sound.
I had to locate a few Shelby specific items that were missing from the vehicle after sitting for a few years. Paint alone was 15K.
I did all the work but the exterior paint, but it went as a shell for paint. That's a 100K restoration all day long at any shop worth their salt.
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on April 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop. Some more details in the video. The vin tag is a little unclear but my guess is 6S1582 (?). I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
I watched video to the end and they show pictures of a restored GT350H imagine my surprise when it's my car. Mine was bad, not sure if it was as bad as this one, but mine was pretty bad, a total of $22,000 was spent on the restore including paint ($1,100 paint job) and machine work on the engine ( overbore, balance new cam, lifters etc.)
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 13, 2020, 09:38:51 AM
I had no rust on my vehicle. I had to replace the left and right front aprons and the top of the apron over the shock towers. The rest of the vehicle was sound.
I had to locate a few Shelby specific items that were missing from the vehicle after sitting for a few years. Paint alone was 15K.
I did all the work but the exterior paint, but it went as a shell for paint. That's a 100K restoration all day long at any shop worth their salt.
Quote from: The Going Thing on April 13, 2020, 09:38:51 AM
I had no rust on my vehicle. I had to replace the left and right front aprons and the top of the apron over the shock towers. The rest of the vehicle was sound.
I had to locate a few Shelby specific items that were missing from the vehicle after sitting for a few years. Paint alone was 15K.
I did all the work but the exterior paint, but it went as a shell for paint. That's a 100K restoration all day long at any shop worth their salt.
After doing three cars myself, my opinion is that paint alone to the quality level expected for this kind of a car is fairly priced in the $30 to $40 range.
You are looking somewhere over $100k to put these cars even in a high quality drivers condition.
Mine have become incredibly finicky on stupid stuff like wiring. Some thing that should take a couple of hours winds up taking two weeks.
I'm sure it is age related but I'm not sure if it is the car or me that is the main contributing factor.
Quote from: mark p on April 13, 2020, 09:15:33 AM
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on April 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop... I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
+1
Seems very strange for a guy as experienced & knowledgeable as Rick Parker to give a low number like that? He did say that it would take 2 years. Needs new seats, restore steering wheel, lots of new metal, etc... how much is just a good paint job - and what about the engine?? ???
Rick is a very experienced person so the number is probably for a basic resto with all aftermarket parts and basic paint. My guess driver quality and back to the family. It won't be a concours car.
Keep in mind........In the video his estimate was not to restore the entire car. At 21:35 of the video if you listen closely he is just talking about body and paint. Never mentioned interior and drive train work.
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on April 13, 2020, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on April 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop. Some more details in the video. The vin tag is a little unclear but my guess is 6S1582 (?). I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
Guessing that $1100 paint was a while back. ;D
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
I watched video to the end and they show pictures of a restored GT350H imagine my surprise when it's my car. Mine was bad, not sure if it was as bad as this one, but mine was pretty bad, a total of $22,000 was spent on the restore including paint ($1,100 paint job) and machine work on the engine ( overbore, balance new cam, lifters etc.)
It was the cost of the paint. Brother in law painted it over two weekends
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on April 13, 2020, 11:29:24 AM
I watched video to the end and they show pictures of a restored GT350H imagine my surprise when it's my car. Mine was bad, not sure if it was as bad as this one, but mine was pretty bad, a total of $22,000 was spent on the restore including paint ($1,100 paint job) and machine work on the engine ( overbore, balance new cam, lifters etc.)
I thought that was your Tag :o Not sure if that is cool or not... I guess the pix are in the public domain?
What year was it $1100 for a paint job?
My local buddy spent close to $1000 to paint his '67 coupe- for materials alone. Primer, paint, clear, thinner, etc. IIRC that was about 3 years ago.
2007 was the paint job He had the car for about 8 months and did basically nothing, then did it two weekends, burned through the paint in a few places, and chipped the paint on the deck lid, was supposed to fix it but that was 13 years ago, not holding my breath for it to happen anytime soon . $1,100 was what he charged and that included materials, but I also had rebuilt the 455 for his 1969 Hurst Olds for free and that's still not together and that was in 1983. He moves slow
I hope someone documents the restoration of that car
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on April 13, 2020, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on April 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 24, 2020, 11:32:49 PM
Someone made a video of the car being excavated and taken to a resto shop. Some more details in the video. The vin tag is a little unclear but my guess is 6S1582 (?). I doubt a car in this condition can be restored for anywhere near the $35-$40K estimate from the guy in the video - and then what do you have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQtSWiSBt_M
I finally watched the whole video, and you're right. Anyone whose been through the restoration of a rust free car that's been sitting will tell you that $35K to $40K on a completely rusted car is insane.
I watched video to the end and they show pictures of a restored GT350H imagine my surprise when it's my car. Mine was bad, not sure if it was as bad as this one, but mine was pretty bad, a total of $22,000 was spent on the restore including paint ($1,100 paint job) and machine work on the engine ( overbore, balance new cam, lifters etc.)
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What century was your restoration done in? I have 12,000.00 in just the engine. The only things farmed out was machine work.
PPG paint alone was over 3K in products. In all honesty, there were about 75 hours just in blocking the car for paint.
That's nothing else that goes along with painting. I used a doner 67 that had been hit from the rear for the rear aprons and shock towers. I was able to buy a NOS left side apron and core support. The battery tray/apron was a repro. My friend that helped had access to a spot welder so they are spot-welded as they were from Ford.
If you get into a Concours Thoroughbred I am sure the number doubles from my estimate of 100,000.00.
Most people aren't like me. I know most farm out the majority of their work. I know the hours it takes to disassemble a vehicle, restore components and reassemble it. There is a marked difference between paint and refreshing and a full restoration.
Did all the work ourselves besides the paint and seats. 20+ years of being a line tech at Ford and L/M dealers lets you know all the little tricks. Began buying parts right after I got it, dash pad was $15, quarters were $125, fenders $29, etc. Mine was never intended to be anything more than a driver quality, it shows pretty good, but would never be anything more than a driver, that's why is has 240,000 miles on it. The shutdown for the virus is cutting into my prime driving time
As for the paint and body, 3 years of High School Vo-tech for body and fender helped a lot. Blocking is something that took about 6 months, as it gets tiring really quick and if you work it too hard you make mistakes, that's why it took almost 14 years to get the restoration done. Was paid for 100% when completed. Now I'm going back over things and reinstalling some of the original parts as I get them restored.
Does anyone know if they have a blog or Facebook page on the "found" car and if they started to restore it, would love to watch the progress.
The number of cars recently being shown.going to ths one restoration shop is rather interesting. Have I been too sheltered to know the quality of their work?... Is this a media blitz to drum up business?... who's in a position to know which car this is and release it publicly?
Quote from: TJinSA on April 30, 2020, 05:54:15 AM
The number of cars recently being shown.going to ths one restoration shop is rather interesting. Have I been too sheltered to know the quality of their work?... Is this a media blitz to drum up business?... who's in a position to know which car this is and release it publicly?
I have been to Rick's shop and the work I saw was great. He has a lot rare cars, boss 9, 302's and is a super nice gentleman. He also builds and ships a lot of cars around the world.
We call these barn find types "cookies"
Because as soon as you touch or start working on them, the sheetmetal crumbles ....