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Title: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 12:34:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpa1HB-wOc


They are inexpensive and easily purchased at any auto parts store.  I am inclined to go out and buy another one tomorrow and check the expiration date on the one that is currently in the back seat of my car.  Should have it mounted.  Anyone have suggestions how to mount without doing any cutting or drilling?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: J_Speegle on March 04, 2018, 01:20:17 AM
Quote from: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 12:34:23 AM
Anyone have suggestions how to mount without doing any cutting or drilling?  Thank you.

Think they are available commercially but have seen mounts built that use the front two seat mounting studs as anchor points as the extinguisher is located just in front of the forward of the seat edge. You choice driver or passenger.


Chances are that a fire such as shown in the video would not be stopped by one of the typical fire extinguishers we see people carrying in their vehicles but if it makes you feel better..... at least you can try

Make sure you have good insurance

Odd sounding siren for a English fire unit. Crew is slow and didn't even bring tools such as a Kelly or other pry tool to get access to the fire initially.  ::)

Hard to watch
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 2112 on March 04, 2018, 02:23:49 AM
I have an automatic Halon system in one my vehicles.

Bought it from these guys;

https://safecraft.com
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 557 on March 04, 2018, 02:31:19 AM
Expensive mistake...damn that things flammable!!
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on March 04, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
We have 2-1/2 lb. HALON fire bottles in every car (7), one 5 lb. unit in the truck and 2 ea. 10 lb. HALON bottles in the garage.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Greg on March 04, 2018, 07:57:08 AM
Man that is heart breaking to see!
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 1690 on March 04, 2018, 07:57:27 AM
Wow....million dollar accident.  Ouch.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Greg on March 04, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on March 04, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
We have 2-1/2 lb. HALON fire bottles in every car (7), one 5 lb. unit in the truck and 2 ea. 10 lb. HALON bottles in the garage.

Can you share pictures of the mounted system in your cars?
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Bigfoot on March 04, 2018, 08:11:43 AM
That wuz ugly.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
Quote from: Greg on March 04, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on March 04, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
We have 2-1/2 lb. HALON fire bottles in every car (7), one 5 lb. unit in the truck and 2 ea. 10 lb. HALON bottles in the garage.

Can you share pictures of the mounted system in your cars?
Yes please. If possible.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: TedS on March 04, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
This is not a recommendation of a particular product or mounting method, just passing along an option I found.

http://www.thebracketeer.com,
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: CSX 4133 on March 04, 2018, 09:42:51 AM
I have this model SafeCraft extinguisher mounted in the trunk area, it has thermal sensors and a manual override inside the cockpit. Engine compartment and cockpit areas are covered.

https://safecraft.com/product/model-lm/

My trailer and my truck both have Halotron extinguishers. I've used my truck mounted extinguisher one time so far helping put out a RV fire in the middle of no where New Mexico.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: TedS on March 04, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
This is not a recommendation of a particular product or mounting method, just passing along an option I found.

http://www.thebracketeer.com,

Worth having.  Thank you!  Better than my current arrangement of loose behind the driver's seat.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 2112 on March 04, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: TedS on March 04, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
This is not a recommendation of a particular product or mounting method, just passing along an option I found.

http://www.thebracketeer.com,

Looks like a great solution
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 2112 on March 04, 2018, 10:56:18 AM
A group purchase was organized and Safecraft prebent Stainless lines for the engine compartment.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 2112 on March 04, 2018, 10:57:21 AM
Using sniffer to check for leaks;

Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: mr68shelby on March 04, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
And definitely splurge for the Halon or Halon replacement type. A dry chemical type will put out a fire, but you are going to spend forever cleaning up after it has been used.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Bigfoot on March 04, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
Always make sure ur insurance is current!
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 04, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 04, 2018, 01:20:17 AM
Quote from: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 12:34:23 AM
Anyone have suggestions how to mount without doing any cutting or drilling?  Thank you.

Think they are available commercially but have seen mounts built that use the front two seat mounting studs as anchor points as the extinguisher is located just in front of the forward of the seat edge. You choice driver or passenger.


Chances are that a fire such as shown in the video would not be stopped by one of the typical fire extinguishers we see people carrying in their vehicles but if it makes you feel better..... at least you can try

Make sure you have good insurance

Odd sounding siren for a English fire unit. Crew is slow and didn't even bring tools such as a Kelly or other pry tool to get access to the fire initially.  ::)

Hard to watch
Spoken like a true retired fireman. ;D
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 04, 2018, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: 2112 on March 04, 2018, 02:23:49 AM
I have an automatic Halon system in one my vehicles.
I have a manual built in Halon system to install in my car as it goes back together. You can get automatic ones also from Marine supply houses. Halon is effective and clean but don't breath it and don't set it off while the vehicle is still moving since you'll drive out of the Halon cloud and it won't work.
Biggest problem with dry powder extinguishers in cars is that the powder compresses from the vibration and bumps. Take it out every couple months and shake it up to keep the powder loose.
Use a metal mount - in a severe crash the plastic one will probably fail then you have a 5 pound club flying around the car.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: jguyer on March 04, 2018, 02:46:16 PM
I still have the same one in my '67 since 1977. I suppose I should get a new one. The gauge says it's good, then again, the gauge could be stuck.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: deathsled on March 04, 2018, 02:48:08 PM
I'd get it tested or replaced.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 04, 2018, 02:54:24 PM
A nice fire extinguisher costs so little compared to the lose you can suffer, I almost cried watching that video  :-[
I keep one in the car and one in the trailer. Always check them every year
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: sfm5 on March 04, 2018, 05:47:46 PM
Wow, I found this extremely hard to watch. Guess I will go check the extinguisher that came in my car to make sure it is good to go!
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: J_Speegle on March 04, 2018, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: jguyer on March 04, 2018, 02:46:16 PM
I still have the same one in my '67 since 1977. I suppose I should get a new one. The gauge says it's good, then again, the gauge could be stuck.

Likely dry chem and the powder will be caked like a rock at the bottom (depending on how it was stored) This style needs to be "shaken" up at least once a year to make sure that all of the product will be available for use or you will just get pressurized air when you activate it.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: gt350shelb on March 04, 2018, 06:48:29 PM
lamborghini miura's  are  extremely flammable   due to the  12 weber stacks inside  the air box /  You learn  not to pump the gas pedal  with these cars    if they  cough back it  loads the air filters with fuel and  the previous video  is the result.  All restorations I was involved with included an on board system  plumbed right into the air box . "Very cheap insurance" 

Keeping an eye on ALL fuel connections is mandatory protocol around here  every time car is started.       
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: gt350cs on March 05, 2018, 10:45:18 AM
A number of years ago, I pulled into work very early in the morning and just before exiting the car I could smell smoke and saw that there must have been a short in the under dash wiring. I was very thankful to have my fire extinguisher right beside me in the car. I had a little mess to clean up, a tow to the shop and relatively small cost to trace all the problems and get them fixed.

Be sure to maintain them in good working order.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 68stangcjfb on March 05, 2018, 11:17:27 AM
A habit to get out of at car shows would be to put the fire extinguisher under one of the front tires. The first reason is that probably 90% of the fires start under the hood ( the other 10% probably being behind the dash) and you can't get to the fire extinguisher with flames shooting out. The second reason is that some people forget they have the fire extinguisher under the tire and run over it like they did at Niagara Falls 2 years ago at the MCA show and covered the car next to him and my car next to that with dry chemical. The MCA no longer allows fire extinguishers under the tires because of this incident.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: deathsled on March 05, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: TedS on March 04, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
This is not a recommendation of a particular product or mounting method, just passing along an option I found.

http://www.thebracketeer.com,
I contacted the Bracketeer and Mr. Wehr expressed doubt that the bracket would work on a 66 after I sent him pics of the seat track. It needs to go back far enough to fully expose the bolts.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: vtgt500 on March 05, 2018, 09:07:31 PM
I have used a Halon fire extinguisher on an underhood fuel fire.  Can vouch first hand, they work amazingly well.  Am in the market for a couple more.  What's the current best option?
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: GTBULLITT on March 05, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
https://www.h3rperformance.com/sm01bk.htm 

this will work perfectly on a early mustang / shelby seat

I have one ... about $80 on line
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: 2112 on March 05, 2018, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: GTBULLITT on March 05, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
https://www.h3rperformance.com/sm01bk.htm 

this will work perfectly on a early mustang / shelby seat

I have one ... about $80 on line

Do you have a picture of it in place?
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: GTBULLITT on March 06, 2018, 10:01:30 PM
I'll try to find some ( photos ) but it bolts under the two front seat track threaded rods, very neat 
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on March 07, 2018, 07:03:38 AM
I have mounts from Brey-Krause and Stable Energies in our Porsches and MINIs as well as traditional mounts for the Shelbys and the truck.  Tip: Don't buy an inexpensive extinguisher with a plastic nozzle...They can melt!  While HALON is expensive and hard to find due to regulation, the alternative is HALOTRON but be aware that it is half as effective as HALON, i.e., it takes 5 lb. to do the same as 2-1/2 lb of HALON. Here's the mount for the '66.  Can be done w/o drilling any additional holes.
Title: Re: Why everyone on this site should have a fire extinguisher in their car
Post by: FL SAAC on March 07, 2018, 09:56:01 AM
always one in trunk with a portable charger and miscellaneous tools....an ounce of prevention.....but still if the $h*ts gonna hit the fan , it's gonna hit....