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Title: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: CSX 4133 on March 15, 2020, 01:00:47 PM


https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2020/03/12/what-the-coronavirus-outbreak-means-for-the-collector-car-market?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Hagerty_Insider_MAR_15
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: The Going Thing on March 15, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
This isn't going to be an epidemic any more than H1N1. They are a virus.  We need to cut the doom and gloom. The panic has done enough damage and we're not anywhere near the losses we see from whatever strain of flu we contend with every year. Those who aren't healthy and have underling issues should use caution, period.  If what we were told via the APA this week they can combat it well for those at risk for complications if caught early and are very close to a vaccine.  Let's stay positive and just use a little common sense. 
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Side-Oilers on March 15, 2020, 07:04:23 PM
^^^+1^^^
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Don Johnston on March 15, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
In the current era of social media followers, there is no sense that is common.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: mark p on March 15, 2020, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 15, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
In the current era of social media followers, there is no sense that is common.

+1
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: mark p on March 15, 2020, 07:20:53 PM
I also thought that the closing paragraph was pretty good:
So, if you can afford to hold on to your classic, there's no reason to sell right now. If you take a long view, it might also be a time to buy. As always, we think the important thing is to buy what you like and drive it often. Given the times, we'll add that it's even more important to stay safe. Please follow the CDC guidelines so that we can avoid COVID-19 quarantines and infections and get back to driving.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 2112 on March 15, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 15, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
In the current era of social media followers, there is no sense that is common.

And the mainstream media does have common sense? It's total hysteria on every network.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: The Going Thing on March 15, 2020, 07:34:21 PM
Here's the deal: I jumped out of the aircraft for the first eight years of my adult life for a living.  If it's your time, you can't change it. After the crap I have endured I shouldn't be breathing, yet here I am. I don't give myself credit. That is due my Maker. 

As for common sense, It's like deodorant.  The people that need it most never use it!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 427heaven on March 15, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Most all of my family are in the medical field, it is very real... with no hysteria. If you feel this a hoax like our fearless leader has stated, carry on as usual.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Coralsnake on March 15, 2020, 09:14:18 PM
Keep going, I dont think anyone has been banned under two different user names. 
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 557 on March 15, 2020, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on March 15, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Most all of my family are in the medical field, it is very real... with no hysteria. If you feel this a hoax like our fearless leader has stated, carry on as usual.
. Yep.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Side-Oilers on March 15, 2020, 10:23:07 PM
The seller of the Bullitt Mustang is probably breathing a sigh of relief that the car went to auction when it did.

The buyer, maybe not so much.

For a car like that, IMO there could be a $1 million or so drop in auction price because of all this....had they all waited until now.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Shelby73 on March 15, 2020, 11:02:52 PM
I'm sure the buyer of the bullit car has enough money to not care. He probably didn't buy it to sell.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: J_Speegle on March 15, 2020, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: The Going Thing on March 15, 2020, 07:34:21 PM
Here's the deal: I jumped out of the aircraft for the first eight years of my adult life for a living.  If it's your time, you can't change it. After the crap I have endured I shouldn't be breathing, yet here I am. I don't give myself credit. That is due my Maker. 

Always had a similar belief during my work life but the change takes place when you start thinking beyond your life and in this case, what you bring home to your loved ones/family. More that responsible for my life and choices, shot at, blown up, exposed to who knows what ....... BUT when it comes to bringing it home that's a whole different thing IMHO

Quote from: 2112 on March 15, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
And the mainstream media does have common sense? It's total hysteria on every network.

Watched about 4 hrs+ of TV today that included both national and local news as well as press conferences of both Federal representatives and State (Calif) and saw no hysteria from the media only reporting and asking of decent and surely anticipated questions. Not always what I see just saying today was a different experience . Glad all sides (hate to think that are "sides" in a situation like this) appear to be focusing and moving forward.

Sure that when this is behind us each of us will be able to look backwards and see that we were very wrong on some things and possibly right on others. Lots of stress out there let's not spread it :)
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 15, 2020, 11:22:52 PM
Could be a precedent case

Quote from: Coralsnake on March 15, 2020, 09:14:18 PM
Keep going, I dont think anyone has been banned under two different user names.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 15, 2020, 11:25:25 PM
Second this with one directly in the ER and another who is directly in the infectious disease field.  It may take in goid time six to twelve months before a vaccine is developed.

Quote from: 427heaven on March 15, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Most all of my family are in the medical field, it is very real... with no hysteria. If you feel this a hoax like our fearless leader has stated, carry on as usual.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 2112 on March 16, 2020, 01:03:11 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 15, 2020, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: 2112 on March 15, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
And the mainstream media does have common sense? It's total hysteria on every network.

Watched about 4 hrs+ of TV today that included both national and local news as well as press conferences of both Federal representatives and State (Calif) and saw no hysteria from the media only reporting and asking of decent and surely anticipated questions. Not always what I see just saying today was a different experience . Glad all sides (hate to think that are "sides" in a situation like this) appear to be focusing and moving forward.

Sure that when this is behind us each of us will be able to look backwards and see that we were very wrong on some things and possibly right on others. Lots of stress out there let's not spread it :)

Seriously? The virus story is the only news they cover. Updated death counts and infection rates every 30 minutes.

I guess you are right. People just ran out and cleaned out stores of toilet paper and other sundry items without any provocation.

Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Kent on March 16, 2020, 04:05:33 AM
The hagerty article is one of the most worst I ever read about this theme. A guy who is writting and reading the whole day and try to analyze something is never good like somebody who lives in the real world.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: shelbydoug on March 16, 2020, 08:02:44 AM
I thought my secret screen name was the best. It was 4Q, and if you investigated the profile, he was from the Uppa US?  8)

I loved it because it was aimed at Ct.Dave and he thought it was Kopec, because that's the kind of thing Rick would do.

At one time, Rick's secret profile was St.Irdapot.

What a bunch of trouble makers, right?  ;)


Who else is hiding out there?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Coralsnake on March 16, 2020, 08:20:24 AM
... or hiding in plain sight?  ;)

I hear you are acutally "BobGaines".

I am thinking now, there are only three people on this website!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 16, 2020, 08:33:40 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on March 15, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Most all of my family are in the medical field, it is very real... with no hysteria. If you feel this a hoax like our fearless leader has stated, carry on as usual.

I think the media finally stepped in it a little much, the media and and others, (figure it out) has done its best to make one guy look bad, and they went too far, because all the wealthy politicians and evil corporation media cost US almost everything, I hope they are happy....

Your statement alone, "If you feel this a hoax like our fearless leader has stated, carry on as usual.", shows how one sided people are. He never said it meaning that, but if you like cnn abc nbc and the rest, than that is what you heard, or was it what you wanted to hear so you can spread your hate for "One guy"?

Were you just as mad during the SARS gig? I bet not, were you as mad when Benghazi happened, I bet not.

I live in NY, I know first hand how stupid it can get. BTW I am in the "Medical Field". The medical field is not always right, look at Diabetes and how they tell you to eat, totally WRONG!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 16, 2020, 09:02:27 AM
Quote from: 2112 on March 16, 2020, 01:03:11 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 15, 2020, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: 2112 on March 15, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
And the mainstream media does have common sense? It's total hysteria on every network.

Watched about 4 hrs+ of TV today that included both national and local news as well as press conferences of both Federal representatives and State (Calif) and saw no hysteria from the media only reporting and asking of decent and surely anticipated questions. Not always what I see just saying today was a different experience . Glad all sides (hate to think that are "sides" in a situation like this) appear to be focusing and moving forward.

Sure that when this is behind us each of us will be able to look backwards and see that we were very wrong on some things and possibly right on others. Lots of stress out there let's not spread it :)

Seriously? The virus story is the only news they cover. Updated death counts and infection rates every 30 minutes.

I guess you are right. People just ran out and cleaned out stores of toilet paper and other sundry items without any provocation.

Funny, they don't tell you about any recovery....so we are to think what, people are falling like flies?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: shelbydoug on March 16, 2020, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 16, 2020, 08:20:24 AM
... or hiding in plain sight?  ;)

I hear you are acutally "BobGaines".

I am thinking now, there are only three people on this website!

Who told you? Did I give it away?  :o
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 69mach351w on March 16, 2020, 09:09:57 AM
Quote from: 2112 on March 15, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on March 15, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
In the current era of social media followers, there is no sense that is common.

And the mainstream media does have common sense? It's total hysteria on every network.
YEP, I agree there ::)
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 09:25:44 AM
Everyone is worried about this "NEW" issue, just go out and drive your cars. Enjoy them for what they are and meant to be used as. If it isn't this, its another distraction,  but you have to realize just like the Model T market,  it's just a matter of time before they all tank. The only exception will be the one off Shelby and those you can count on your hands.

Doctor T
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: shelbydoug on March 16, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
"do not go gentile into that good night".
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 16, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
"do not go gentile into that good night".

Naaaaa that's kinda of faggy poem. This is reality, the way of the Model T crowd. The writing is on the wall. Many are in denial but it is what it is...bye, bye dinosaur
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Don Johnston on March 16, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
Stay safe and away from social contact by working  alone in the garage and going for long drives.  You will feel better. 8)
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Side-Oilers on March 16, 2020, 02:06:28 PM
"If" by Rudyard Kipling.  The first line is my favorite.

"If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;   
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;   
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,   
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,   
    Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,   
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,   
    And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
Beautiful  + 1

Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 16, 2020, 02:06:28 PM
"If" by Rudyard Kipling.  The first line is my favorite.

"If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;   
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;   
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,   
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,   
    Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,   
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,   
    And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 02:09:37 PM

Just came back from having lunch at the mall. The apocalypse has cleared out most customers or maybe they are still hunting for toilet paper? Plenty of parking and lots of empty tables, enjoy your day

Quote from: Don Johnston on March 16, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
Stay safe and away from social contact by working  alone in the garage and going for long drives.  You will feel better. 8)
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 02:10:33 PM
Continued from above
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
Please lets stay on topic...Shelby prices dropping like a rock
Title: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
The night is black, without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light
Faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best
Oh...Oh...
The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand   - Neil Elwood Peart OC
Title: Re: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: 2112 on March 16, 2020, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
The night is black, without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light
Faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best
Oh...Oh...
The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand   - Neil Elwood Peart OC

Title: Re: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 03:29:48 PM
Amazing how one can memorize the opening dialogue to Young Frankestein....

On with the discussion;

This is reality, the way of the Model T crowd. The writing is on the wall. Many are in denial but it is what it is...bye, bye dinosaur

Never investments in our eyes, toys made to be enjoyed

Shalom 

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
The night is black, without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light
Faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best
Oh...Oh...
The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand   - Neil Elwood Peart OC
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Kent on March 16, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
Then I would say sell them all to me for a t bucket price. ;D i take all shelbys for that.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 05:49:19 PM
+ 1

Quote from: Kent on March 16, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
Then I would say sell them all to me for a t bucket price. ;D i take all shelbys for that.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Model T's are selling today for roughly 20 times their original price, give or take. Earlier models in pristine condition command more, drivers a bit less. And there were over 15 million of them made. Shelby's were far less plentiful and some of them won't command 20 times their original price tag. Everything is relative.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM
Model Ts price in 1908 was right around $300

More
300 x 20 = $6,000

Less
300 x 10 = $3,000

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967, convertibles,  the first GT500, Lil Red, the Green Hornet,  experimentals. the one and only Super Snake.

Like I said you can count them on your fingers and toes.

Unfortunately we humans we are vane, I have the only green Shelby with a plaid interior, rug delete, with a am radio and no console. Not 1 of 2,000 - not 1 of 1, 000 - not 1 of 500, these are truly 1 of 1  that's it no more, the end 1 of 1

These are the ones that are worth the Benjamins.

Everyone else has nice cars.

Show me the money !

Finito

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Model T's are selling today for roughly 20 times their original price, give or take. Earlier models in pristine condition command more, drivers a bit less. And there were over 15 million of them made. Shelby's were far less plentiful and some of them won't command 20 times their original price tag. Everything is relative.
Title: Re: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 16, 2020, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
The night is black, without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light
Faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best
Oh...Oh...
The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand   - Neil Elwood Peart OC

Liberism is a mental disorder...Micheal Savage
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 08:05:29 PM
And the the most beautiful flag in the universe was brought out....USA,  USA,  USA  !

Back to the topic at hand.

As Mr T from the A team would say;

I pity THE FOOL that would be trying to sell their car now !

Tanked
Title: Re: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on March 16, 2020, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM
The night is black, without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill
Features distorted in the flickering light
Faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best
Oh...Oh...
The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill
They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand   - Neil Elwood Peart OC

Liberism is a mental disorder...Micheal Savage

Liberism ???

You must be projecting   LMOA
Title: Re: Quick to judge, Quick to anger, Slow to understand
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 08:15:12 PM
and what is LMOA....no comprende....

KENT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR POST ????

back to the article

Also thought that the closing paragraph was pretty good:
So, if you can afford to hold on to your classic, there's no reason to sell right now. If you take a long view, it might also be a time to buy. As always, we think the important thing is to buy what you like and drive it often. Given the times, we'll add that it's even more important to stay safe. Please follow the CDC guidelines so that we can avoid COVID-19 quarantines

# 5915 # tanked # corona # lost in space # will robinson # rare Shelbys loose no value  # only 1 of 1s # all other shelbys are just another car # USA is number one

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on March 16, 2020, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 16, 2020, 03:00:05 PM


Liberism is a mental disorder...Micheal Savage

Liberism ???

You must be projecting   LMOA
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: mk31755 on March 16, 2020, 08:37:24 PM
to keep this in perspective...... so far less that 100 people, in the USA,  have died from this new strain of corona virus.  In 2017 the CDC reported that there were over 80,000 deaths related to the flu virus in the USA.       Be smart.....avoid large crowds.... and wash your hands frequently.  We struggle to understand viruses and unlike bacteria which can be combated with antibiotics  viruses can be much more difficult to treat.  The sample size we have at this point is too small to be statistically significant but we need to be smart to keep this from becoming an epidemic like it is in Italy.  If you start to feel something coming on STAY HOME and contact your local CDC for instructions.  The goal is to minimize the spread of the virus.  Those that are at the greatest risk are infants, elderly, and immunocompromised people.  You don't have to quarantine yourself but don't be stupid either. 
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: deathsled on March 16, 2020, 09:07:43 PM
Still feeling fine, but that doesn't mean anything.  Contemplating the sale of my Shelby and invest the money in a year's supply of organic popcorn and Cheetos puffs.  Also, due to toilet paper shortages, I bought three boxes of Kleenex and according to my calculations of 120 tissues per box, if I use one per day, I will be good for roughly one year.  I'm all set.  All seriousness though, courts are closing up here in Chicagoland and roads are becoming vacant.  I fear a collapsed economy in the aftermath more than the virus itself.  But I do maintain a healthy fear of the virus.  I'm 56.  The Cerveza Bug would like to kill me at this age.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: TOBKOB on March 16, 2020, 09:46:43 PM
QuoteAlso, due to toilet paper shortages, I bought three boxes of Kleenex and according to my calculations of 120 tissues per box, if I use one per day, I will be good for roughly one year.  I'm all set.

Use both sides of the paper and you will be set for 2 years... ;D   ::)   :-[

TOB
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 16, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
Mucho smarto!

Quote from: TOBKOB on March 16, 2020, 09:46:43 PM
Quote.

Use both sides of the paper and you will be set for 2 years... ;D   ::)   :-[

TOB
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: TOBKOB on March 16, 2020, 10:48:38 PM
LOL  Although that could be a sticky situation... ;D

TOB
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Don Johnston on March 16, 2020, 11:14:04 PM
Use both sides.  Sounds like a lot o crap to me.  I have reverted to pages of  Mustang Monthly since they of no other use now.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Kent on March 17, 2020, 04:57:00 AM
Tony I dont know what you mean my posts are still the same.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: The Going Thing on March 17, 2020, 06:41:18 AM
Well, any of you that served in the military remember the three "tissue paper" sheets that came in each C ration or MRE.  Most of us carried them in the elastic band on our helmet. They were coveted in the field, being they were often stolen. Free advice. Make sure your hands are dry so you don't compromise the paper during use. If you happen to run out avoid poison IVY. That is all!
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: shelbydoug on March 17, 2020, 07:34:35 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
Mucho smarto!

Quote from: TOBKOB on March 16, 2020, 09:46:43 PM
Quote.

Use both sides of the paper and you will be set for 2 years... ;D   ::)   :-[

TOB

Change all of your big bills for singles. Ask the teller for new bills and tell them they are for gifts.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967, convertibles,  the first GT500, Lil Red, the Green Hornet,  experimentals. the one and only Super Snake.

Like I said you can count them on your fingers and toes.

Unfortunately we humans we are vane, I have the only green Shelby with a plaid interior, rug delete, with a am radio and no console. Not 1 of 2,000 - not 1 of 1, 000 - not 1 of 500, these are truly 1 of 1  that's it no more, the end 1 of 1

These are the ones that are worth the Benjamins.

Everyone else has nice cars.

Show me the money !

Finito

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Model T's are selling today for roughly 20 times their original price, give or take. Earlier models in pristine condition command more, drivers a bit less. And there were over 15 million of them made. Shelby's were far less plentiful and some of them won't command 20 times their original price tag. Everything is relative.

SHOW ME THE MONEY !

Here's what makes this 1967 Shelby Mustang #0139 so special and "The Rarest Shelby Mustang":

• It was the first Mustang Convertible to receive the 428 cu.in., V-8 dual-quad engine with air conditioning from the factory.

• It was the third Mustang (all body styles) to receive the 428 engine.

• It was the first Ford to be equipped with the upgraded "PCG-R" C-6 Automatic Transmission #000001.

• The only 1967, and the only GT 500 convertible to be ordered, serialized, and built by Shelby American. 

• One of two 1967 models to be upgraded with 1968 styled fiberglass.

• It Is the most photographed and publicized Shelby GT Mustang car ever built.

• It is a 1 of 1 fully documented and very valuable 1967 Shelby GT 500 convertible.

Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 17, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967, convertibles,  the first GT500, Lil Red, the Green Hornet,  experimentals. the one and only Super Snake.

Like I said you can count them on your fingers and toes.

Unfortunately we humans we are vane, I have the only green Shelby with a plaid interior, rug delete, with a am radio and no console. Not 1 of 2,000 - not 1 of 1, 000 - not 1 of 500, these are truly 1 of 1  that's it no more, the end 1 of 1

These are the ones that are worth the Benjamins.

Everyone else has nice cars.

Show me the money !

Finito

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Model T's are selling today for roughly 20 times their original price, give or take. Earlier models in pristine condition command more, drivers a bit less. And there were over 15 million of them made. Shelby's were far less plentiful and some of them won't command 20 times their original price tag. Everything is relative.

SHOW ME THE MONEY !

Here's what makes this 1967 Shelby Mustang #0139 so special and "The Rarest Shelby Mustang":

• It was the first Mustang Convertible to receive the 428 cu.in., V-8 dual-quad engine with air conditioning from the factory.

• It was the third Mustang (all body styles) to receive the 428 engine.

• It was the first Ford to be equipped with the upgraded "PCG-R" C-6 Automatic Transmission #000001.

• The only 1967, and the only GT 500 convertible to be ordered, serialized, and built by Shelby American.

• One of two 1967 models to be upgraded with 1968 styled fiberglass.

• It Is the most photographed and publicized Shelby GT Mustang car ever built.

• It is a 1 of 1 fully documented and very valuable 1967 Shelby GT 500 convertible.
Being most photographed only as a 68 GT500 convertible given its prototype status hopefully someday pictures will surface of the car in 67 Shelby trim to support the way it is restored now . Ether way it is a beautiful car.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: 67 GT350 on March 17, 2020, 07:32:24 PM
Quote from: mk31755 on March 16, 2020, 08:37:24 PM
to keep this in perspective...... so far less that 100 people, in the USA,  have died from this new strain of corona virus.  In 2017 the CDC reported that there were over 80,000 deaths related to the flu virus in the USA.       Be smart.....avoid large crowds.... and wash your hands frequently.  We struggle to understand viruses and unlike bacteria which can be combated with antibiotics  viruses can be much more difficult to treat.  The sample size we have at this point is too small to be statistically significant but we need to be smart to keep this from becoming an epidemic like it is in Italy.  If you start to feel something coming on STAY HOME and contact your local CDC for instructions.  The goal is to minimize the spread of the virus.  Those that are at the greatest risk are infants, elderly, and immunocompromised people.  You don't have to quarantine yourself but don't be stupid either.

AMEN
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 17, 2020, 07:44:49 PM
1 of 1 only 1967 Shelby convertible ever made by Shelby American

This is the money shot !

Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 17, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967 convertible

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM

Being most photographed only as a 68 GT500 convertible given its prototype status hopefully someday pictures will surface of the car in 67 Shelby trim to support the way it is restored now . Ether way it is a beautiful car.
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 17, 2020, 07:48:20 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 17, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967, convertibles,  the first GT500, Lil Red, the Green Hornet,  experimentals. the one and only Super Snake.

Like I said you can count them on your fingers and toes.

Unfortunately we humans we are vane, I have the only green Shelby with a plaid interior, rug delete, with a am radio and no console. Not 1 of 2,000 - not 1 of 1, 000 - not 1 of 500, these are truly 1 of 1  that's it no more, the end 1 of 1

These are the ones that are worth the Benjamins.

Everyone else has nice cars.

Show me the money !

Finito

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
Model T's are selling today for roughly 20 times their original price, give or take. Earlier models in pristine condition command more, drivers a bit less. And there were over 15 million of them made. Shelby's were far less plentiful and some of them won't command 20 times their original price tag. Everything is relative.

SHOW ME THE MONEY !

Here's what makes this 1967 Shelby Mustang #0139 so special and "The Rarest Shelby Mustang":

• It was the first Mustang Convertible to receive the 428 cu.in., V-8 dual-quad engine with air conditioning from the factory.

• It was the third Mustang (all body styles) to receive the 428 engine.

• It was the first Ford to be equipped with the upgraded "PCG-R" C-6 Automatic Transmission #000001.

• The only 1967, and the only GT 500 convertible to be ordered, serialized, and built by Shelby American.

• One of two 1967 models to be upgraded with 1968 styled fiberglass.

• It Is the most photographed and publicized Shelby GT Mustang car ever built.

• It is a 1 of 1 fully documented and very valuable 1967 Shelby GT 500 convertible.
Being most photographed only as a 68 GT500 convertible given its prototype status hopefully someday pictures will surface of the car in 67 Shelby trim to support the way it is restored now . Ether way it is a beautiful car.


Details...details..  eleanor ignores the details that don't fit his narrative ;)     

cut/paste repeat...cut/paste repeat
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 17, 2020, 07:51:08 PM
Hoser lineage...
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 18, 2020, 09:42:28 AM
Just reflecting on some of the comments on the 1 and only some say to bad we don't have old pictures of it as a 1967. The title say 1967 and Ford sent it to SA in 66.

But you know I also have never seen God or a picture of him,  but I still know he is out there and exist.


Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 17, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM

Rare Shelbys like the one and only 1967 convertible

Quote from: kjspeed on March 16, 2020, 06:32:40 PM

Being most photographed only as a 68 GT500 convertible given its prototype status hopefully someday pictures will surface of the car in 67 Shelby trim to support the way it is restored now . Ether way it is a beautiful car.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

I agree, and eleanor is just fanning the flames. What the hell does he know about Shelby values? 

Anybody here going to ask eleanors advice if they are buying a Shelby?  HELL NO! A car inspection by tony simon = WORTHLESS

Did anyone notice that none of the member that buy and sell these car even bothered to respond to this thread? 
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 18, 2020, 10:42:04 AM

YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

I agree, and eleanor is just fanning the flames. What the hell does he know about Shelby values? 

Anybody here going to ask eleanors advice if they are buying a Shelby?  HELL NO! A car inspection by tony simon = WORTHLESS

Did anyone notice that none of the member that buy and sell these car even bothered to respond to this thread?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Covid-19 virus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:44:24 AM
Lets stay on topic please.


Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 18, 2020, 10:42:04 AM

YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

I agree, and eleanor is just fanning the flames. What the hell does he know about Shelby values? 

Anybody here going to ask eleanors advice if they are buying a Shelby?  HELL NO! A car inspection by tony simon = WORTHLESS

Did anyone notice that none of the member that buy and sell these car even bothered to respond to this thread?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Covid-19 virus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 18, 2020, 10:49:00 AM
YOU STILL HAVE BEEN REPORTED

looks like you need another vacation , maybe permanently...lol

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:44:24 AM
Lets stay on topic please.


Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 18, 2020, 10:42:04 AM

YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

I agree, and eleanor is just fanning the flames. What the hell does he know about Shelby values? 

Anybody here going to ask eleanors advice if they are buying a Shelby?  HELL NO! A car inspection by tony simon = WORTHLESS

Did anyone notice that none of the member that buy and sell these car even bothered to respond to this thread?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Covid-19 virus might affect Tony' self esteem.
Post by: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 11:09:08 AM
Let see how the day plays out...

I wonder which one of us everyone is rooting for...LOL



Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 18, 2020, 10:49:00 AM
YOU STILL HAVE BEEN REPORTED

looks like you need another vacation , maybe permanently...lol

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:44:24 AM
Lets stay on topic please.


Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on March 18, 2020, 10:42:04 AM

YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

Quote from: Chris Thauberger on March 18, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 18, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
I think that article is a combination of "blank page filler" and stir the pot? There is hardly anyone that can corner the market.

Just like with stocks, if you are offered a deal and you have the cash, probably you should take it.

Values will not stay down forever and likely will rebound higher then before.

I agree, and eleanor is just fanning the flames. What the hell does he know about Shelby values? 

Anybody here going to ask eleanors advice if they are buying a Shelby?  HELL NO! A car inspection by tony simon = WORTHLESS

Did anyone notice that none of the member that buy and sell these car even bothered to respond to this thread?
Title: Re: Hagerty article on how Coronavirus might affect Collector car market.
Post by: FL SAAC on March 18, 2020, 11:14:06 AM
Truly an epic situation that the world is facing