SAAC Forum

Quote from: FL SAAC on April 18, 2024, 05:06:27 PMPrice to be announced at a later date.

I guess this is the classic "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it?"

That's pretty cool!  I like it!

Quote from: Coralsnake on April 06, 2024, 11:18:23 AM
I think you have answered your own questions.

They dont have legal right to anything SAAC or Marti has. They tried suing SAAC for that and lost

Thanks, Pete.  Good to know and pretty much what I was expecting.  I was just asking from an enthusiast's point of view as this sort of thing sets off alarm bells and pegs my BS meter.

Here are some questions that come to mind regarding the Vehicle Authenticity Certificate that SA creates, as it pertains to the vehicles built by Shelby American, Inc. or Shelby Automotive, Inc. between 1962 - 1970:

• What kind of research does SA do to substantiate their statement that the vehicle has been verified in the Official Shelby American Registry?
• Does someone from SA come out and look at the car (and who would pay for such a thing, the owner, right)?  I'd put the possibility of this happening at about 0%.
• What does this cost the vehicle owner? The Shelby Store lists 1983 - 2023 certificates for $35, with no mention of 1962 - 1970 vehicles.
• Does SA have legal access to all the data that has been collected on our cars over the years (SAAC registries, Marti Reports, or, in the case of a '67 Shelby GT, a report from the 1967 Shelby Research Group.)?  I'd be far more trusting of these data sources.   I know that these are at least backed up by real data.

I've never seen or heard of this registry, especially when it comes to the cars produced from 1962 through 1970.  Or maybe I've just been living under a rock all these years?  And it sounds to me like a ploy to separate unknowledgeable owners from hard earned dollars.

Mark,

It is heartbreaking to hear this news.  My wife is also beset with chronic disease and it is tough to watch her struggle.  Please celebrate Nancy's life and remember the good times as I sure that she would want you to do.  As they say, "may her memory be a blessing".

Have you thought of holding a car show event in her memory with the proceeds going to MS research?  That might be a way to generate some funds in addition to the walk.  Pretty sure a lot of Shelby guys would show up.  I know I would.

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 01, 2024, 05:55:08 PM
I think the first April Fools cover was the Thurman Munsen (?) Cobra also on one of the Marque's I think it was a color cover.

Pretty sure that was Thurman Loomis.  Thurman Munsen was a catcher for the NY Yankees who was killed in an airplane that crashed on landing.

So what's on the odometer now, Steve?  I'm looking forward to the 250,000 mile countdown too. I expect regular updates.

Yup, Bill is the man!  That's why whenever anyone asks me if I know where to buy a Shelby, he is the guy I send them to.

Indeed, the Hi-Po block for 6S817 was cast on October 23rd, 1965 (5K23), machined on November 3rd, 1965 (5L3) and assembled that same day.  It certainly did not sit out in a field somewhere for a couple of years.

Quote from: CharlesTurner on March 26, 2024, 06:32:41 PM
Holman-Moody makes hipo camshafts and matched solid lifters.

+1 on the H-M suggestion.  If that doesn't work out, Howard's Cams & Racing Components makes a near identical reproduction of the factory camshaft.

OK, now that we have definitive evidence, I'll retract my statement that the only difference between manual and automatic are the jets.  The primary booster venturi assembly is different as well.  Good to know, thanks Dan!

A big difference between a non-HiPo and a HiPo carb that I didn't see mentioned is the HiPo carb has a cast in stop for the choke just above the primary throttle shaft.  I've seen people weld in a small rectangular piece of aluminum to simulate that stop, but those are crude at best.

Another tell-tail is the boss for filtered air for the choke is left undrilled.  Filtered air is not needed for a manual choke.

Kevin,

Just to amplify Cory's response, I believe that the only difference between the manual and automatic versions, other than the dashpot, are the jets.  The booster venturi assemblies appear to be the same between the two.  The flow rate is either 595 or 600 CFM, depending on which source you read.

As for the spacer, Cory is correct, you'll need one or have massive vacuum leaks.  Looking at the underside of the carburetor, you'll see that it is not flat and that the Cobra intake manifold mounting pad does not extend to out to the limits of the Autolite's base.  I think I used a Canton Racing Carburetor Spacer, 85-154, available from Summit Racing.  It is made of phenolic, is 1/4 inch thick, and lists for $35.  The phenolic will also help isolate the carburetor from heat.  Hope this helps.

delli,

You are chasing the holly grail of Autolite carburetors.  The one you are looking for is a C6ZF 9510-F.  Scarce as hens teeth and can cost as much as $5,000 (maybe more, I haven't checked prices lately).  The Hi-Performance 289 carburetor for a manual transmission car is a C6ZF 9510-C and is much easier to find.  The C6ZF-F carb is so difficult to find, that I had  to settle on a C6ZF-C on my own car and add a dashpot (which is the only difference I can find, although others may have more information.

There is a vendor who sells on Ebay who seems to get them occasionally, Gotta Fish Carburetors.  I don't have any knowledge of his quality of work and I am not affiliated with with this vendor.  Other than that, I don't have any information as to where you might find one.  Best of luck in your search.

Believe it is 16:1, bumped up from 19:1 with standard Pitman and idler.

Quote from: JD on March 03, 2024, 09:49:16 AM
See attached, screen grab of the link in the article regarding the $852,500.00 number, seems it was a Eleanor from 2020 - not what I'd call a '67 Shelby, but that my opinion...

I just can't wrap my head around the fact that an "Eleanor" would sell for more than a genuine 1967 Shelby G.T.500.  This is what we call "stupid money"...