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1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Drivers Glass
« on: June 09, 2023, 12:52:56 PM »
KR, are there different Carlite codes identifying whether it's for a FB or Vert?

Not on the glass to be used to identify it.

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Hertz brake warning decal
« on: June 08, 2023, 01:39:37 PM »
Since most cars are restored or have been you might want to ask or research where they were originally. Just a thought.

Or post what car your focusing on and do a limited search around when that car and others were at SA

Was there a specific date change? .............The Mustang K collectors may have an actual production date for when changes occured.

At least at San Jose likely not it appears. More likely a range when it too place would be the closest we could/can determine. Two problems - #1 we don't know specifically when each car was built (as Mustangs) and #2 when the change over took place they likely used up what was in the supply pipeline and in the small inventory at the car and at Sterling that supplied them and they likely were not concerned about which got used in any particular order since the change did not affect any of the other parts on the car unlike other running changes that took place (example change over from generator to alternator where there were a bunch of related parts that needed to be changed all at the same time.

The Lounge / Re: Shelby GT350 tributes and clones. What's important
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:28:37 PM »
Too much carefully crafted word "smithing" for me to watch.  Think it's pretty easy like the high in art and paintings you have "fakes" and you have "good fakes". but that wouldn't make a very long U Tube video

Concours Talk / Re: Export Brace
« on: May 31, 2023, 10:16:24 PM »
The car is number 3081, I have had it since 1986. I feel like I will put it on the car at this point.

Thanks that helps. Seeing that car spent allot or most of its life in the north east there is the likely possibility IMHO that someone replaced the export brace from one from a NJ built Mustang from the  April-May production period there.

1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1969 wheel restoration
« on: May 31, 2023, 10:12:36 PM »
Some get carried away and put on allot of clear, which can create problems later but in the short term give the wheels or centers a "dipped in plastic" look which may catch the eye in a judged event and lead to unwanted deductions

As always make you choices wisely and anticipate the negative affect of them

Concours Talk / Re: Export Brace
« on: May 30, 2023, 03:08:17 PM »
Hello everyone, perhaps you can help me out here. I have a 67 GT500 and have had a few different export braces in the garage over the years. The interesting one (that I believe came on the car 37 years ago) has 8 holes, 4 that alight for an earlier car 65 66 and 4 that align with the 67 etc. Has anyone ever seen this?

Interesting. What car number did this come from? 

How long have you had the car?

What else may have been changed on the car?

Perhaps it was a leftover at LAX that got redrilled or something? The picture is in primer and a little hard to see, sorry.

If ones like this were originally used on cars then it would be a San Jose/Ford thing since that is where they were installed not at Shelby

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: GT350 #1341 is on the road again!
« on: May 28, 2023, 01:34:36 PM »
Congrads on getting it done. Now enjoy it

Just a little detail that stood out -  the battery inspection decal is incorrect for the car and filled out for San Jose in 67. Easy fix :)

Since you mentioned the "reproduction" word be aware that most if not all of the electronic ones have a visible different from the original. The difference is often the base below where the wire loom plugs in if your looking for something that looks like an original

Rarely have problems with originals or service replacements. Reproduction electric items can often be an issue from reports over the years on the forums. Hopefully there are some good ones out there the issue is that in buying from resellers (the catalog companies) you often don't know who the supplier is of each

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Early 67 no affiliation
« on: May 23, 2023, 11:14:11 PM »
A couple of pictures from a car reported to be #190 from 2012. Had the same paint job it appears back then - White with blue stripes

These might give some somethings and details to ponder   :-\

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Early 67 no affiliation
« on: May 23, 2023, 05:37:03 PM »
As always do your home work or get help doing it ;)

Another rat rod Mustang. For some just standing out and the need for attention is a driving force


Agreed.  The pure number of similar cars doesn't always impact the value from what I've seen.

Also, in this same auction (Mecum Indy 2023) we saw a blue 66 GT350 with a repro tag (amongst other things) sell for $308K all in. 

Somethings cannot be explained.   :(

Never, over the decades, have I ever attended an auction and not gone away with mixed feelings and results both up and down market.

Yes, great job compiling the results.

Iím incredibly surprised at how soft 65 GT350 prices were. Crazy.

I was surprised as well.

No saying it about this specific group of cars but it can often not be about the market but the cars offered in the auction and the stories or history related. IMHO can't judge a market from a couple of cars at an auction. Just a thought

1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: 67-68 markings
« on: May 20, 2023, 09:33:15 PM »
Remember that 67 and 68s were built at two different Ford assembly plants and each year that cars were converter by two different companies. Because of this, and other things its often not a good idea to lump but together. Not to say that there are not plenty of "restored" cars that owners and builder have not borrow details from one another only to get found out later

Just a suggestions

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