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1991-93 SAAC Mk1, Mk2 Mustang / MKII 013 convertible in Peru
« on: October 10, 2023, 12:35:40 AM »
After many years out of site. A new owner has emerged with this car.
It is the only White MKII convertible and the only white convertible with a black top and black interior.
I have been looking for this car for over 10 years. That was with help from another MKI owner in Peru.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 24, 2023, 09:58:46 PM »
From the SRG (1967 - Shelby Research Group):

First, a pie chart to show how all the paint colors are divided up.

GT/CS - California Special / GT/CS stripe colors ?
« on: January 07, 2023, 01:42:40 PM »
Did the California Special come with stripe colors other than white or black from the Ford factory?

I've seens some black and some various blue paint shades with gold stripes...
Also some white cars with red and with blue stripes.

How do we know if an owner changed the stripe color (from say white to black or visa versa)
Any paint / stripe color list info out there?

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / 1967 Shelby commercial location identified!!!
« on: December 24, 2022, 12:01:28 PM »
Most of us always assumed the '67 commercial segment was filmed somewhere in LA.
That assumption just changed.

With help from the Michigan SAAC club (MCR and Bill Cook) we now know it was filmed at the Ford NAAO building
FORD NAAO BUILDING (North American Automotive Operations)

Recently I discovered a Ford PR photo from 1960 that show this exact location in Michigan.

Very Cool to get this new infomation...Thanks Bill

It's no secreat I have hunted for all development photos (Ford) that can be found on the web .

Attached is a photo dated from June 11th, 1963 showing the start of the full sized GT40 clay model.
On the same date there are about 4 renderings that were relaseed, with a red backgound.
They don't look like the same design, so I imgine there were more renderings made.

A few days later, on the 19th, the finished clay design is photographed completed in light blue metallic.
There apeear to be at least 10 images of that design per the identification numbers 1 - 10.
(I usually just find 8 views per designs from Ford)
To date I have only found S-6453 -1,-2,-3,-5,-6, &-10 (missing -4,-7,-8, &-9 and no others after -10)

These are the earliest photos found, so far, over many years of looking

Shelby American History / LAX video - looking for the source
« on: September 11, 2022, 02:35:35 PM »
Looking for this LAX video source  ?

Years ago, I saved a few still photos from a LAX video, but now I can't find the video source.
We can see many vertical lines in the still shots so it might be an old worn out copy.

Does anyone recognize it that can help share a link to the video to watch again?
Please help

It is great to read about our Shelby Research Group here on the SAAC forum. Nice to read our ‘Z’ stamped theory on Ford’s takeover.
There are many other reasons that led us to believe Ford took over SAI in very late April / early May 1967.
The ‘Z’ stamp on the VIN plate is just one of the reasons...

For example, there is the letter that discusses Shelby American getting split into 3 separate companies around this time. 
Another letter, discusses Ford opening up sales from the 90 franchised dealer networks to over 1000 non franchises Ford dealers around the country...
to move more units out of inventory.

Then there is the invoice from Shelby to Ford to get paid before the change took place on ‘Loss of Use” of company cars.
Then we see the DSO group number change. Originally it was ‘71', it changed to ‘84’ then to ‘89’ about this same time.
Each change reflected a point in time and Ford’s relationship. I’m sure the list goes on, but you get my point.

Years ago I heard the theory that the ‘Z’ stamped VIN meant that a car should have an outboard grille and lights.
After collecting hundreds of photos of every ‘67 VIN plate I could find, that theory dissolved.
I was also tracking VIN plate photos by the noted registry completion dates. I discovered the added ‘Z’ stamp appears on cars on 4/27/67
 … not one day before that.

Like most everything with ‘67’s, there are one or two exceptions to every rule. We found one car completed after 4/27/67 with a ‘Z’ stamp.
Thanks to Jeff Speegle for sharing that one! The outboard grille / lights start appearing on cars around the second week of May.
That was a couple of weeks after the ‘Z’ stamping started. It’s an interesting theory, but it doesn’t hold water anymore.

Another theory was the cars with a ‘Z’ Stamping were not to be scavenged for parts. That one faded away too.
It was mentioned here on the forum; Why not simply put a card on the dash?
Yes the “Z’ stamp would be more permanent, but who’s going to open and close every hood to check?

Recently, I’m hearing a theory the ‘Z’ stamps were added to cars that received the upgraded Mustang 390 brake pads.
(By dealers that already had cars?)
There was a Service Bulletin issued on March 1st 1967, to dealers, that the brakes pads should be changed to the new 390 on any customer complaints.
Ford was going to change to these other brake pads on Shelby’s after car ‘1422’. That work was under warranty, not a recall of any kind.
It doesn’t explain all the cars with the ‘Z’ the stamping after that ‘1422’ VIN and onward until the end of ’67 production.
Nobody would need to track those units. Also since that service bulletin was issued March 1st it was many weeks before we start to see the ‘Z’ Stamps!.

“98 SVT” I’ve noticed you quoting our SRG posts before, but I don’t think you’re signed up on any of our websites…are you?
We would welcome anyone who wanted to participate and help add information of any kind to the topics.
The links to our sites are in my signatures.

CSX 2000 Series / Early 1960s European Motor show COBRA pictures
« on: June 22, 2022, 08:50:37 PM »
Hopefullly I am not borrowing any copyrighted photos that are being shared here for historical educational purposes, but
I thought it would be neat for those interested in seeing them and I don't recall the websites they came from.

I'll start with October 1961 in London with this one photo from that show.

CSX 2000 Series / Red Cobra with unusual Taillight at SAAC 47
« on: June 21, 2022, 02:57:56 PM »
Can anyone fill in the story on this unusual Cobra.
What is the CSX number?
Why does it have different tail lights?
Did Ed Hugus built it? (Probably not.)

It was also in a December 7th 1963 video  filmed in Michigan.

It is different!

I am offering a data report on any 1991-1993 SAAC car (only 62 were built)
I’ll need to confirm your VIN with a photo of the door pillar sticker and the buck tag.
The Ford VIN numbers are in our files along with past owner history.
(The Buck Tag is mounted on the radiator support just behind the driver’s side headlight)
These two items will confirm exactly how the car was built, by FORD,
        before the SAAC Car Company completed it.

Send me a PM if I have not done one of these and I will create one ASAP.

Richstang (1991-1993 SAAC MKI, MKII, & Snake registrar since 2010)

GT40 - Original/Mk V / P/1001 photo request ... at FAV
« on: March 03, 2022, 12:58:47 PM »
I was wondering if anyone would happen to have a nice large photo of P/1001 in stock from and blue paint?

There was a front left view in front of FAV (Slough) on the "GT40.ORG.UK" site, but it is very small
It was later returned to FAV to get revamped as a race car.

1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Registry (GRID CODE) paint code question
« on: January 16, 2022, 10:41:53 PM »

What does the paint code "E" stand for in the 2011 Registry Grid Code pages for 1969-70?

It is not listed on page 856 in the 'KEY' for Original Features!

1991-93 SAAC Mk1, Mk2 Mustang / ’91-’93 SHELBY / SAAC -Emblems
« on: October 29, 2021, 05:42:32 PM »
Version 1: 1991 MKI ”SHELBY” Prototypes

These first sets of emblems were found on the prototypes at the SAAC Convention for the introduction in 1991 in Charlotte, NC.
(This included; MKI CX1, XX1, XX2, XX3, & XX4 (MKI XX4 was marked as MKI 009 while in Charlotte;
       MKI 007 has SHELBY emblems, but they were installed after Charlotte).
No other cars received them from the factory. I believe approximately a dozen sets were made for the prototypes.

“SHELBY” letters only for the exterior oval emblems, (no “AAC MKI” letters in ovals)
“SHELBY AAC MKI” letter emblems for the hatchback side quarter panel windows
“CS” letter logo in the center cap emblems
“SHELBY” letters in the oval logo on the steering wheel

Any members of the South Jersey Mustang Club?

I'm trying to ID this red '67 Shelby of one members' car
This photo was posted on the SJMC website.

It appears at some south jersey car shows and was also at SAAC 33 back in 2008.
There are a few other photos of his car. Most are from the side, but it does appear to have inboard grille lights.

Up For Auction / 67 GT350 Acapulco Blue -stick (No Shelby ID listed)
« on: October 23, 2021, 04:27:23 PM »
Another Dynamic Motorsports '67 listing (not mine)

Looks very clean and should be for that asking price.
~57 GT350 Acapulco Blue 4-speeds were produced.

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