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I came across this letter from 2008 on a AC Owner's Club register

It appears that what some collectors fear is already happening–aging 428 Fruas are being cannibalized for their chassis, which once shortened 6″ in wheelbase, can accommodate a 427 Cobra body. On an AC Owner’s club website I found one such case but they mention this fate awaits other 428 Fruas that are rusty or otherwise undesirable…
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Hi David

Both conversions already known and listed thanks in a first draft AC 428 Register I cobbled together late last year, which the Club has since removed to be replaced hopefully with their glossy on-line version sometime soon. [8D] I can attach a copy to an e-mail if you need.

To bring you up to date….

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Extracted and copied across from old Register I’ve saved on hard drive :

CFX 35: Fastback. Automatic. Now 428/ Cobra Conversion.
Manual. LHD. Trade advert: La Baule, Brittany France.
Status: Active.
E-mail received 5/1/08.
“Dear Sir,
the car we have for sale is a conversion from an AC Frua 428 to an AC Cobra
427. The engine is not the original 428 but a 302 that has been fully
prepared and that devellopps 450 HP. The body is a SC one. The chassis
number is CFX 35. Aluminium oil and water radiator. Aluminium vapor oil
Tank. Aluminium water expansion tank. Special laiton 3 discs clutch. Gearbox
is a toploader close ratio, wheels are original halibrand with hoosier
tyres.
Price is 200 000 €uros.
Sincerly yours,
Nicolas QUERARD
PH : 00 33 2 40 24 10 36”

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None of it's mine (I only have artwork made in modern times) , and it seems not all the lots are Shelby but see if you can open the site on Mecum On Time

https://ontime.mecum.com/auction/shelby-american-le-mans-sports-car-racing-collection-220/bidgallery/?utm_campaign=Mecum%20On%20Time&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=243358474&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--U1eFyjDl_ip0qOzCqc0O7oc1QGrtAeMmZImMQJJI_zpR_08U5_-z8FLfsaYaGE3rDup08eHCZGU49RdfaNXWD6gPrxA&utm_content=243358474&utm_source=hs_email

or maybe this title

What's On Time this Week: Shelby American / Le Mans & [NEW!] Formula One Grand Prix

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When i was at the Petersen Museum 100th Anniversary of Shelby show a resident of the Inland Empire said they were having a Shelby show at a dealer near Rancho Cucamonga in April? I neglected to write down which dealer. any clues?  Thanx

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The words ff their press release:
Carroll Shelby Centennial Celebration & Car Show

Date: Saturday, January 14, 2023
Time: 9:00AM- 3:00PM
Location: 19021 S. Figueroa St. Gardena, CA 90248

Join the official Carroll Shelby Centennial Celebration hosted by Carroll Shelby International on Saturday, January 14, 2023, in So Cal. We will honor the 100th birthday of the legend with a morning filled with great cars and prestigious people.

Don't miss meeting Carroll Shelby's grandson, CSI board member Aaron Shelby, and Shelby American President Gary Patterson as they unveil a special anniversary Shelby vehicle. You can tour the Snake Pit, Shelby HQ and the Original Venice Crew Shop, park your car in the cruise-in, and enjoy free coffee and donuts as you gaze on the amazing vehicles. The Carroll Shelby Foundation will conduct a silent auction and several Shelby legends are expected to attend.

LA SAAC invites Shelby and Ford-powered performance vehicles to be part of their judged car show. A portion of the proceeds from the car show will benefit the Carroll Shelby Foundation and participants will receive a commemorative gift package.

You will not want to miss this once-in-a-lifetime event"

Note weather forecast is for rain; the next day is a Shelby Cruise In at the Petersen Museum about 20 miles to the North

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1965 GT350/R-Model / list of GT350R prices from www.classic.com
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:53:02 PM »
site has pictures
from https://www.classic.com/m/ford/shelby-mustang/1st-gen/1965-1966/gt350r/
MARKET PRICES
Ford Shelby Mustang GT350R - 1st Gen (1965 to 1965)
CMB
$1,391,783

The race specification Shelby Mustang GT350R is one of the most coveted examples of the First Generation Shelby Mustang. Offered solely in 1...
For Sale
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This othr site has pictures
https://www.classic.com/m/ford/shelby-mustang/1st-gen/1965-1966/gt350r/
Avg
$1.5m
Sales Count
5
Dollar Volume
$7.5m
Lowest Sale
$720,000
Top Sale
$3.9m
Most Recent
$875,000
Zoom
From
Jan 7, 2018
To
Jan 7, 2023

1965 Shelby Mustang GT350R
$875,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby Mustang GT350R
TMU · Manual · LHD · Restored-Modified
Auction · 8 months ago
Mansfield, TX, USA

1965 Shelby GT350 R
$775,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
TMU · Manual · LHD
Auction · 1 year ago
Monterey County, CA, USA


1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
$1,265,000 SOLD

1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
TMU · Manual · LHD
Auction · 1 year ago
Monterey County, CA, USA

1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
$800,000 HIGH BID

1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
Manual · LHD
Auction · 1 year ago
Indianapolis, IN, USA


1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
$1,100,000 HIGH BID
1965 Shelby GT350R Fastback
4,930 mi · LHD
Auction · 1 year ago
Kissimmee, FL, USA


1965 Shelby GT350R Prototype
$3,850,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350R Prototype
LHD
Auction · 2 years ago
Indianapolis, IN, USA

1965 Shelby GT350 R
$720,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
LHD
Auction · 4 years ago
Monterey, CA, USA


1965 Shelby GT350R
NOT SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350R
LHD
Auction · 4 years ago
Scottsdale, AZ, USA

1965 Shelby GT350 R
NOT SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
LHD
Auction · 4 years ago
Phoenix, AZ, USA


1965 Shelby GT350 R
$742,500 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
LHD
Auction · 6 years ago
Monterey, CA, USA

1965 Shelby GT350 R
$770,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
LHD
Auction · 7 years ago
Fort Worth, TX, USA

1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 R
$984,500 SOLD
1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 R
LHD
Auction · 8 years ago
Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

1965 Shelby GT350 R
$990,000 SOLD
1965 Shelby GT350 R
Manual · LHD
Auction · 10 years ago

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The entry was in '67
17   Dubois / Tuerlinckx   Claude Dubois (B)   Shelby   GT350
It did not finish. I want to do a color painting but since my only ref. photos are black and white, I  don't know if the number on the side, racing stripes, and driver's names were in black or dark blue?  Thanks for any tips....

interview of Dubois here http://www.ponysite.de/sheleur_dubois.htm

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I just became aware of this already on-going 24 hour a day  63-lot auction of Shelby-American related memorabilia.(end date Jan. 31st)  The same site  also has one on  Porsche memorabilia. Find the Shelby one under this heading:

https://ontime.mecum.com/auction/shelby-american-le-mans-sports-car-racing-collection-220/terms-conditions/Here's a partial description

Part of their description:
Shelby American / Le Mans - Sports Car Racing Collection
BIDDING NOW!   Tue, November 29 - Tue, January 31   Location: Walworth, WI   Number of Items: 63
Shelby American / Le Mans - Sports Car Racing Collection
The Shelby American / Le Mans - Sports Car Racing Collection was curated by a lifelong California-based sports car racing enthusiast with a focus on eye-catching vintage racing posters from around the world. The assemblage encompasses a broad range of unique collectibles sure to appeal to both sports car and racing fans and followers, including some of the rarest Shelby American items from the company's founding through 1966, as well as Le Mans photographs from noted photographer Dave Friedman. This special collection is full of desirable items that will delight enthusiasts of the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans race, Ferrari sports racing cars and the most discerning Shelby American collectors alike. 

All offered at No Reserve //Terms, Conditions & Shipping Information

Mecum Magazine: Sport Racing Panoply


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To see what each item is selling for right now , go to the Bid Gallery. Bids started a couple days ago so most only have the asking price. One that surprised me was a George Bartell poster (from a painting) a 1965 Shelby GT350 Mustang that the seller wants over $1,700 for--yes,  minimum bids are shown , tho I am confused why some bidders are bidding below the minimum.(could these be counter-offers? Like at some point the seller could lower the price?) Like to hear what other items are priced far higher than what they've been known to go for previously

   


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Up For Auction / German website advertises 1965 Cobra but no SN
« on: January 01, 2023, 10:39:38 AM »
messy website, no SN , no history of car
https://www.ooyyo.com/germany/c=CDA31D7114D2854F111BFE6FBA65355B0CB31D6617F286/8765627733610334454.html/

Sorry this is so fragmentary...









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Lots of good pictures on the dealer's site. It's in Hong Kong

https://www.classicinsider.com/single-post/fordmustangfastback

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I think new cars that arre  LHD are illegal to sell in Aussieland so even used LHD must be hard to sell...and this one's  left hooker
1963 Shelby Cobra MK I 289



View all photos at this website  https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGrbbzqxZgPWDvBlkCsxZnPFgbc


Oldtimer Australia is delighted to offer for sale this fabulous 1963 Shelby Cobra MK I 289.

According to the World Registry of Cobras & GT40s, this particular car was the 105th of 126 Mk I Cobras built and one of only 51 Mk I Cobras fitted with the 289 engine. It was originally finished in blue with a black interior. The car was delivered new on the 4th January 1963 to Shelby America and then shipped to New York on the 4th April 1963 on board the ‘SS Vlist”. It was invoiced to Coventry Motors, Walnut Creek, California on the 6th May 1963.

The earliest known owner, Mr. William Nicholas from Mill Valley, California, acquired the car in the late 1960’s or early 1970’s. The car is documented as carrying the yellow on black California licence plate CCZ907 in August 1976. In circa 1978 the car was acquired by Ed Breith from San Remo, California. During Breith’s ownership the car was refurbished, which included a repaint in guardsman blue with the addition of the white stripes, fresh chrome, a retrim in black leather and an engine rebuild. The car changed hands a few more times throughout the 1990’s in the USA before being acquired by Oldtimer Australia and imported into Brisbane in 2003. The current owner, who is a well-known Shelby enthusiast and collector, acquired this Cobra in 2010.

The Mk I Cobras were all fitted with worm and sector type steering. Many of these early cars had their steering upgraded to a rack and pinion type steering, which was standard on the Mk II Cobras. This particular example has had the steering rack upgrade at some stage.

This Shelby Cobra MK I 289 is no trailer queen and it has been used as Carroll Shelby intended – to be driven! That said, today this car presents exceptionally well. The blue paintwork looks fresh and it carries a high gloss with a strong depth of colour. On closer inspection you will notice a few minor blemishes and stone chips. The external trim, including the chrome, lights/lenses also present well. The only exception is the front ‘Shelby’ badge and ‘Powered by Ford’ badges which show some wear. The chrome wire wheels and AC wheel spinners are in excellent condition and a real feature on this car. The wheels are shod with Michelin XWX tyres all round.

The interior of the car presents well with just the right amount patina. The upholstery has aged beautifully and is all in good condition with no rips or tears. The quick release seat belts suit the car perfectly. The dashboard may well be original and whilst the top is in good condition the fascia shows light wear with minor damage in places. The instruments and controls are similarly presented and look to be in working order.

The engine bay looks clean and after opening the bonnet you immediately note that the original Holley 715 carburettor has been replaced with a downdraft Weber set up.

Accompanying the car is a full tonneau cover, which is in excellent condition and a soft top which probably hasn’t seen the light of day in many, many years. It would be for emergency purposes only, but it looks to be in good condition.

It was with great anticipation and excitement that we got behind the wheel of this car for a test drive and it did not disappoint. In fact, it probably exceeded expectations! The weather gods smiled upon us and allowed the beast to be unleashed under a cloudless blue sky. The thumping Ford V8 started easily at the first turn of the key. We expected that the Weber carburettor set up would have made the car a little temperamental, but it didn’t. There’s no doubt it preferred the open road, but it behaved surprisingly well in traffic. The engine sounds fabulous and has more power than you will ever need. The gearbox is smooth and with a short throw it is easy to shift up and down the box. The steering is light, yet direct and the car handles well. The brakes were more than adequate to pull the car up.  That said you’d really want to get the car on the track to experience its true potential. The car felt tight on the road, though to be honest you would not hear any rattles or squeaks over the roar of the engine!

Highlights:

Documented in the World Registry of Cobras & GT40s
The 105th of 126 Mk I Cobras built and one of only 51 Mk I Cobras with the 289 engine.
Delivered new on the 4th January 1963 to Shelby America.
Invoiced to Coventry Motors, Walnut Creek, California on the 6th May 1963.
Originally finished in blue with a black interior.
Upgraded to later rack and pinion steering at some stage.
Purchased by Oldtimer Australia and imported into Brisbane in 2003.
Acquired by the current owner in 2010.
The Shelby Cobra is one of the most desirable and sought-after world market collector cars. Currently there are only a handful of these amazing cars in Australia. Given the current taxes you would have to pay to import one, it is not very likely that that number will increase. As such, here is a unique opportunity to acquire a rare 1963 Shelby Cobra MK I 289.

This fabulous car is ready for its next custodian to enjoy, show, ta

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Up For Auction / CSX2516 coming up for auction Kissimmee FL Jan, 4th
« on: December 28, 2022, 12:38:26 AM »
It's a repaint from original color but looks good to me

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-545393/1965-shelby-289-cobra-roadster/

LIGHTS
CSX2516
HiPo 289 V-8 engine
4-speed manual transmission
Chrome knock-off wire wheels
Delivered new with Class A accessories
Billed to Shelby American on July 21, 1964 and shipped to Los Angeles aboard the SS Dongedyk
Invoiced on October 19, 1964 to Harr Ford in Worcester, Massachusetts
The car was delivered to Massachusetts by Shelby truck
Known ownership includes Biff Bering and David Greene of Houston, Texas in the early 1970s
Acquired in 1975 by Virgil Nelson of Iowa, who retained ownership for 31 years
Nelson sold it in 2006 to Richard Cohen of Del Ray, Florida
Purchased later in 2006 from Cohen by Rick Grant of Dayton, Ohio
Part of the Rick Grant Collection since 2006
Grant commissioned a restoration and had it finished in Red with a Black interior
Displayed at the 2011 Dayton Concours d'Elegance
Copy of Nelson's Iowa title from 1979
History listed in the Shelby Registry



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The misprint sound like $140,000 or so but they corrected it The discussu9in goes into how one guy (not on this car) could fake a 427 side oiler engine, like to hear comments on those comments

https://barnfinds.com/real-cobra-427-on-craigslist/

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You can leave a message on his site, which also has feature stories, but the message box isn't big enough and no way to send pictures.

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