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Parts For Sale / ‘67 GT500/ ‘67 427 Fairlane/Comet clutch fork SOLD
« on: February 19, 2024, 10:33:00 AM »
Original Clutch fork for ‘67 GT500 or ‘67 427 Fairlane/Comet.  SOLD
Thanks!

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Up For Auction / Re: 67 GT500 air cleaner base
« on: February 01, 2024, 10:53:16 AM »
Yes, it is real and is for a ‘65-‘67 427 Fairlane/Comet/Galaxie with closed crankcase emissions because of the elbow.  The curved elbow is the second version, a 90 degree, sharp elbow was the first style, similar to the early GT500 usage.  You can tell it’s those applications by the rectangular shaped pad cast into it.  These were never reproduced. 
Chris

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: part identification
« on: January 26, 2024, 11:37:23 AM »
Jeremy,
Are these from Tom’s ‘69 Shelby, And does it have A/C?  With the December 9th date code on the lower dash bracket, it would be the right time frame.
Chris

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: part identification
« on: January 26, 2024, 11:20:47 AM »
The middle bracket is a ‘69-‘70 Mustang/Cougar under dash bracket.  It is located right above the gas pedal and goes from one of the brake/clutch pedal firewall support bolts to the lower dash. See first picture

The third bracket could be from a ‘69-‘70 Mustang as well.  Possibly the center A/C duct bracket from the duct to the cowl/firewall. See second picture.
Chris

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CSX 3000 Series / Re: what fuel pump is original to 427 Cobras?
« on: January 16, 2024, 02:11:27 PM »
This C0AZ-9350-C described as OE for 427 Cobra just listed on ebay......https://www.ebay.com/itm/166552504273

Yeah, Allen has had that for sale numerous times for awhile. It is a 4918, C0AE-9350-E, which was eventually replaced by the C0AZ-9350-C, 0294 pump. 

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CSX 3000 Series / Re: what fuel pump is original to 427 Cobras?
« on: January 15, 2024, 09:10:36 AM »
According to the April 1965 Ford Master Cross Reference List, the C5AE-9350-G is the C0AZ-9350-C, which is the A/C 0294.  It should actually be 40294, which is what is stamped on the pumps.  It’s a Ford MPC typo, in my opinion.
Chris

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1967 428 Engine Resto Article Hemmings
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:04:34 PM »
Those two Scott Drake pieces are for open crankcase or closed pcv?

Villages can go many directions. It's important to avoid the "Village of the Damned".

The larger, twist in, 6766-12A is for the drivers side valve cover, non-emissions, or “cookie cutter” cap on closed system.
  The small, push on, 6766-5, goes on the intake oil filler tube and was used for both closed and open emissions.  Don’t ask me why a closed emissions system has a vented cap on the oil filler tube, when the oil filler tube is connected to the air cleaner base for closed crankcase air flow.  GT350 closed emissions use a non-vented cap that hooks to the air cleaner base.

Whoever devised the closed emissions  system on the '67 GT500 shows a complete misunderstanding of how it is supposed to work. As a matter of fact it cannot work as built originally. It creates a big vacuum leak to the intake manifold.

I was just asking because the Scott Drake listing does not specify open or closed, it just states original applications which to me, as you pointed out, are confusing.
They are open emission caps "that is just the way it is "as quoted from Special Ed. It isn't Ford writing the applications it is someone who works for NPD . Unfortunately you have to look passed their good intentions of being accurate and take there descriptions with a grain of salt.

I was waiting for you to say that!!  I was going to, but figured I would give you the honors!  ;)

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1967 428 Engine Resto Article Hemmings
« on: December 28, 2023, 03:06:11 PM »
Those two Scott Drake pieces are for open crankcase or closed pcv?

Villages can go many directions. It's important to avoid the "Village of the Damned".

The larger, twist in, 6766-12A is for the drivers side valve cover, non-emissions, or “cookie cutter” cap on closed system.
  The small, push on, 6766-5, goes on the intake oil filler tube and was used for both closed and open emissions.  Don’t ask me why a closed emissions system has a vented cap on the oil filler tube, when the oil filler tube is connected to the air cleaner base for closed crankcase air flow.  GT350 closed emissions use a non-vented cap that hooks to the air cleaner base.

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We had 2 blue 60' harvestores silos assembled on our farm in 1969  made by a o smith and if i remember correctly they were about $20.000  apiece and we had to pay $ to have them taken down to save wasted tax $ on the farm since we havent had any cattle in a long time. Dad could have bought 8 new shelbys in 1969 for us 10 kids on the farm instead  imagine that!!

I still have a 40’ one, thought about having a big Mustang running horse emblem painted on it!

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1969-1970 Boss 302/429 / Re: 69 boss 429 with cold weather package
« on: December 05, 2023, 11:03:31 PM »
I wonder if those were the same prototype louvers that were on the Shinoda BOSS 302?  Looks like it has a tilt away column and quarter panels filled in, like a 302.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 30, 2023, 01:08:02 PM »
Thanks Bob, for clarification on the oil fill tube usage.  The two pictures I posted in reply #29 are of car #590 (green) and #620 (blue) for reference.  Not sure if that constitutes them as being some of the earliest, but they are both pretty early. 
Chris
Of course pictures of restored cars although well done can not be taken as stand alone documentation . Especially when showing out of the ordinary usage.
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Exactly.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 30, 2023, 12:28:30 PM »
What is the part number for the "cookie cutter cap"? I can't find that? Was one a service part?

C7AZ-6766-A (engineering number C5AE-6766-K)

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 30, 2023, 10:51:47 AM »
Thanks Bob, for clarification on the oil fill tube usage.  The two pictures I posted in reply #29 are of car #590 (green) and #620 (blue) for reference.  Not sure if that constitutes them as being some of the earliest, but they are both pretty early. 
Chris

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 30, 2023, 09:51:30 AM »
While this subject is open, I have a few questions.

1) Is that oil filler cap what is expected on all '67 GT500's or do they vary?

2) The Cobra Lemans driver's side valve cover is machined for clearance to the master brake cylinder for clearance. Doesn't the CS Shelby cover need that also?

3) Does the heater hose routing vary according to emissions or non-emission GT500 applications? Where would you expect to see it on a non-emissions car?

Which cap are you asking about?  The scalloped, “cookie cutter” cap on the drivers side valve cover was only used on the closed crankcase emissions/thermactor GT 500’s(and ‘67 427 Fairlanes/Comets).  They could be Autolite stamped or no script un-stamped.
 The chrome, Autolite stamped cap on the intake fill tube is typically the style expected for a later car.  The earlier cars used the same style/shape cap that were stamped with the FoMoCo in an oval from my understanding.  Others will know approximately when the phasing in occurred for the Autolite caps.  I was also told that not all of them were chrome, and black painted variations of each type script cap were used sparingly throughout production.  Again, maybe someone has a more definitive time frame of usage.

The cookie cutter is the one that caught my attention and curiosity.

My 67 500, 3074, is a non-emissions 4 speed so if you are correct, that isn't what should have been on the car as built anyway.

Your open emissions driver side cap should be this style of twist on and probably Autolite stamped instead of FoMoCo in a box.  Again, I’ve been told chrome and black were intermixed used.  The push on cap in the picture is for reference of size between the oil fill tube cap (smaller) and valve cover cap.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 30, 2023, 09:11:21 AM »
While this subject is open, I have a few questions.

1) Is that oil filler cap what is expected on all '67 GT500's or do they vary?

2) The Cobra Lemans driver's side valve cover is machined for clearance to the master brake cylinder for clearance. Doesn't the CS Shelby cover need that also?

3) Does the heater hose routing vary according to emissions or non-emission GT500 applications? Where would you expect to see it on a non-emissions car?

Which cap are you asking about?  The scalloped, “cookie cutter” cap on the drivers side valve cover was only used on the closed crankcase emissions/thermactor GT 500’s(and ‘67 427 Fairlanes/Comets/Galaxies).  They could be Autolite stamped or no script un-stamped.
 The chrome, Autolite stamped cap on the intake fill tube in the first picture at the beginning of this thread, is typically the style expected for a later car.  The earlier cars used the same style/shape cap that were stamped with the FoMoCo in an oval from my understanding.  Others will know approximately when the phasing in occurred for the Autolite caps.  I was also told that not all of them were chrome, and black painted variations of each type script cap were used sparingly throughout production.  Again, maybe someone has a more definitive time frame of usage.

Something I’ve been wondering about is did some of the closed emission/thermactor GT500’s use the oil fill tube cap and spark arrestor system pictured below if the regular, straight oil fill tube was used instead of the C4AZ-6763-A curved fill tube with the nipple on the side that Jeff posted a picture of.  If so, then that opens up another whole batch of closed crankcase emission caps, scripts, finishes, shapes/sizes.

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