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Concours Talk / Re: 69 GT350 starter
« on: March 23, 2023, 08:47:46 PM »
This came on a complete 69 351W the nose cone is a C5TF-A

Yep, that’s the correct nose cone for that C7AF-F, small block, large flywheel, manual transmission starter.  Almost a correct date code for a ‘69 BOSS 302.
Good piece.

Concours Talk / Re: 69 GT350 starter
« on: March 23, 2023, 09:48:34 AM »
As always thanks for your knowledge on the starter for the nov 1st 67.
Question about the ink stamp, who might produce the best repop ink stamp or decal, I prefer ink stamp.
I imagine the date code would prohibit a decal?
The C 3 nose cone pictured is a 63 up to 68, if I read correctly.
I have many starters and alternators , coopers and my own, decades worth of the old ones, most autolite.
I am getting ready to offer a bunch of parts, and don't want to get rid of anything that is correct for the Shelby.

I have a noise cone with the number C6OF _ A with a large 2 besides it.
Correct or put in the pile to sell.

The C3OF-A nose cone was used until the D0OF-A nose cone replaced it sometime in the 1970 model year.  The C3 cone is used with small block automatic transmissions and a small block, manual transmission flywheel that is small diameter, like used in Mustangs prior to 1968. Some ‘65-‘66 small block Galaxies used the large diameter manual transmission flywheel and they used the C5TF-A nose cone, which was used on large diameter manual transmissions flywheels in later Mustangs.

The C6OF-A nose cone is for ‘66-‘67, 170cid and 200cid engines with manual trans. only.

Concours Talk / Re: 69 GT350 starter
« on: March 20, 2023, 09:04:35 AM »
This starter is the original off of a ‘69 Grande, 351w, automatic, built in February at the San Jose plant, and is dated January 17th, 1969. The C3OF-A nose cone was the only small block, automatic cone to be made until the D0OF-A came in 1970 and then the D2AF cones later. 

Concours Talk / Re: 69 GT350 starter
« on: March 19, 2023, 10:20:16 PM »

Bob, the only three C9 casting numbered starters are the BOSS 429 C9AF-A, 390cid C9AF-B, and the 250cid six cylinder C9ZF-A.  The 250 starter would work but is not technically listed for a 351cid, like the C7AF-B.  The other two, as you know, won’t work at all.  Even the ‘69 BOSS 302 used a C7AF-F, which was carried over into the 1970 model year when replaced by the D0AF-C around January 1970.

Concours Talk / Re: 69 GT350 starter
« on: March 19, 2023, 10:01:50 PM »
I would expect to see an AUTOLITE starter die stamped with C7AF-11001-B followed by a date code that corresponds/would pre-date the build date of your car.   As Bob stated, it is probably one of the most common starters of the era because it fit several engine across several years. 

Not the greatest picture on short notice, but you get the idea.  You can start to see the “9Fxx” date code after the part number, which would be June 1969.

CSX 3000 Series / Re: Close Ratio / Wide Ratio Opinions 427 Cobra
« on: March 14, 2023, 12:34:55 PM »
I'll add my 2 cents here.  I've driven the same car with both a close ratio 2.32 to 1 first gear toploader as well as a wide ratio 2.78 to 1st gear.  I much preferred the the 2.78 gearbox on the street.

If you wish to convert a close ration box to a wide ration these are the parts you'll be swapping: 2nd gear, 3rd gear, the cluster gear, and the input shaft.  There are no factory 2.78 big spline 1st gear inputs, you'll have to have it made which requires two inputs, the original big spline input and a donor wide ratio input.  Liberty Gear in Michigan used to do that kind of work but I don't know if they still offer that service.  I was very happy with the work they did for me and it would still be in the car except I switched to a TKO600 (happy with that transmission too).

New, one piece, 2.78 large input shafts are available through David Kee and other drivetrain parts places.  They even make the longer version, big input for a small block.   

1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: A couple of questions.
« on: March 08, 2023, 05:55:28 PM »
Did SJ follow this approximate timing also?   I ask because I have a pretty original ‘69 Grande parts car that was built in February that has the black out above the pinch weld.  It does have the flat DS front apron also.  It also has three lenses on the back-up lights. 

CSX 3000 Series / Re: Toploader In Cobra Fitment Question
« on: February 07, 2023, 06:41:46 PM »
I do very little with 427 Cobra specific parts but I have collected some information over the years. I have the original Shelby American office copy of the purchase order numbers by part they had to buy to complete the street chassis A.C. Cars sent them and some information on recommended spares for competition cars.

Caution: If the 427 Cobra parts lists are no more accurate than the Cobra ones, users should take every part number as a starting point for their own research.

The units listed by chassis number are owner provided assembly tag details.

Interesting parts lists.  The C5AR-7003-G is a big input, small output, long tail housing, HEH-R, which was replaced/serviced by the C6AZ-7003-B, which is a big input, big output, long tail housing.   The RUG-S is the big input, big output short tailhousing used in the ‘67 GT500s.  Not much info/luck yet on the HEH-BY transmission.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: More Flat Gas Cap Emblem Adapters
« on: February 03, 2023, 04:37:24 PM »
At what approximate serial numbers did they stop using the flat caps?

Wanted to Buy / Re: Wanted: NOS FOMOCO C6AE-9439-A intake gaskets
« on: January 18, 2023, 04:16:20 PM »
Is this what your looking for?

CSX 2000 Series / Re: T-10 stencil
« on: January 12, 2023, 04:25:47 PM »
Thanks fellas!!  Hadn’t seen too many T-10s with the markings still on them and was curious if a Cobra had the stamps as well. 

CSX 2000 Series / Re: T-10 stencil
« on: January 12, 2023, 03:01:06 PM »
Here it is, he just dropped it off.  Obviously the shifter is aftermarket.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: T-10 stencil
« on: January 12, 2023, 01:19:52 PM »
Don't believe so. Different supplier so different way of marking and visually identifying
Thanks Jeff!
What do you mean by “different supplier”?  That Shelby didn’t get them from Ford?   Or that B/W didn’t stencil them like Ford did on their top loaders?

I’m asking because I have a guy bringing me a 63 or 64 T-10 to look at, that has what appears to be C3O?-? stenciled on the side, from the picture he showed me.  I’m sure it’s not out of a Cobra, but was wondering if that detail would be on a Cobra transmission.

CSX 2000 Series / T-10 stencil
« on: January 12, 2023, 11:31:26 AM »
Did the Cobra cast iron T-10’s have any partial Ford part number stenciled on the side, similar to the yellow ID stamps on top loaders?

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1967 GT500 Air Cleaner Questions
« on: January 07, 2023, 09:13:36 PM »
It appears to be an original earlier ‘67 sand cast top and bottom and they had the straight leg “R” as well as other different letter shapes/features.  The first sand cast lids were natural aluminum finish and the second variation was black crinkle painted like the one in the first post.  I can’t tell from the pictures, but the side/edge of the lid should be aluminum finished as well, no crinkle paint.  The picture Wedgeman posted is of a die cast, curved leg “R” that was used later in ‘67-‘68.

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