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so if I understand this ad,
  they have a vintage mustang with many vintage modifications that were typical of what was done in the past to mustangs used in competition?
  the car has clearly had VIN transferred from another body (state/federal offense? )
  they are trying to add "prototype GT350 R" attribute to boost value to an auction?

my simple conclusion is, this is:
an interesting vintage mustang with what appears to be vintage (back-in-the-day) race modifications, with troubling, possibly legal jeopardy VIN identification manipulation.

IF this was an authentic GT350 body then the RH apron SFMxxxxx stamping would be present OR it's removal evident!

otherwise it cannot claim to be anything other than an interesting old used mustang body

regards
jim p

Quote from: texas swede on February 12, 2024, 10:01:26 AMHi guys,
I have attached a page showing the rear brake parts for 65/66 GT350's. It was published in "The Marque" in the end of the seventies or beginning of the eighties. Don't know if I am correct on the name but I believe it was Roger Hodyka.
Texas Swede

TX Swede,
 I will claim authorship for that article in the Marque!
I was working at a Ford dealer in Farmington MI at the time and found a customer we had was a K/H engineer.
So I questioned him on the unique Shelby brake hardware, he is the one who told me the springs were functionally the same as the RPO Ford hardware, the difference was the springs were made to tolerate higher temps without loss of performance. "hi temp springs"

regards,

jim p 

Earl,  the 2 persons in front of the car in the photos are residents of Michigan,
so not likely who you are thinking of.
the guy in the yellow tee shirt and balding is deceased,
the guy in the other photo @ Motor City Region show at Ford HQ, is the owner of the 70 Boss 302 alongside 5S465.

jim p

expanded view of dash
and photos of 5S465 at Motor City Region Memorial day Show & Go @ Ford HQ

digging thru old folders found some of 6S1380, prior to ownership by Jeff Burgy
I seem to recall this was following recent repaint?

jim p

yah, I was like, WHAT ?

500 HP @ 2,600 rpm and it was for a tank ! M4 Sherman running on 80 octane fuel

u_tube link

This is after old Henry refused to build the Merlin V-12 because most were going to go to Britian!
It was Edsel who behind Henry's back kept talking to the War Production Board that eventually negotiated the other defense contracts for the war; Willow Run plant - B24's & 56,870 Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Radial Aircraft Engines.

The widely distributed photo of 5R002 outside Carter shop has the unique window associated with that car.

There is another photo that appears to have the same size and font but #2, is / could it be 5R001 ?

This photo with what appears to be #2 on the fender rear just in front of the door, the drag link is hanging down, suggesting the pitman / idler are being installed.

jim p

Found this photo appears to be loading damaged GT/111 following 65 Targa Florio into the FAV transporter?

jim p

per the latest registry, 5R103 "never raced again" following being stuffed into a sand bank 1969 12 hrs of Sebring.

found a photo from 1970 Daytona, and according to Racingsportscars.com;

#94   Cummings / Stumes   Shelby GT350   Susan T. Cummings   327 laps   DNF

I'm adding this to my race history table

regards

jim p

I have not seen much discussion of GT/112, that was one of the "trial" (IMHO) designs produced as part of the "prototype" series GT/101 ~ GT/112.

finding a couple of photos from 1967 Spa 1000 Km shows the unique roadster/targa (removable roof panels) features.

regards

jim p

My search (in this Forum) did not find any prior discussion of this event,  should have checked Coralsnake.com
records show the 1967 Paris Auto Show was Oct 7th, 1967, so having a 1968 model GT350 would not be surprising?

Is there any records suggesting the Sn # ?  coralsnake.com = 8T02J110578-00339
I see what looks like a side marker lamp in the fender, Euro requirement?

Regards

jim p

I will have to look in my files at home for the name,
  but there is a "Paul Harvey...  the rest of the story" here with the Green Valley Valentines Day inaugural race for SAI GT350 program.

The famous "Flying (Miles) Mustang" photo of 5R002, where he got air under all 4 tires each lap when he hit the hump in the track, the crowd was thrilled at the "show" Ken was providing.

The ( I believe local "Dallas Times" news photographer ) that took the photos that day is also the photographer that took the infamous photo of Jack Ruby shooting Lee H Oswald in the basement of the Dallas PD headquarters!

I doubt this is a Trivial Persuit question,    but now you know the rest of the story !

jim p

I too am a member of The Henry Ford and contacted the Benson Ford Research center regarding research.
Since Whuan COVID they have been closed to the public and refer you to online staff for inquiries.

I requested any documents from the 1963~1967 Total Performance programs and was informed "they don't have much material or documents from 1962 and up, most of their material is pre 1960".
FWIW

jim p

1st race of the IMSA 2024 season, 1st win for Mustang !

In Race 1 of the VP Racing Challenge Series meeting at Daytona International Speedway,
17-year-old Luca Mars drove from the back of the 20-car Grand Sport X (GSX) class field to take the Ford Mustang GT4's first win in its global competition debut.

Mars was placed at the back of the grid when his #59 KOHR Motorsports Mustang GT4 failed post-qualifying scrutineering and had all of its lap times deleted, but using the strength of the Ford's V8 motor, he gradually fought his way into podium contention.

2 Mustang GT3 cars running in Rolex 24hrs  #64  #65   picking up on the GT programs car numbering for significant years?

https://youtu.be/l76WBXpSXiw?si=lceLGwqnUagD2uTC  part 1
https://youtu.be/f2iQiS2fmcs?si=PABwLWuyKfWqldN1   part 2
https://youtu.be/ZKRNcosZcdo?si=P61AWW6Zt9YmnVnR   part 3

gotta say the V8 sounds just evil !!

some familiar drivers from GT program, hope they can bring the same kind of success.

enjoy

jim p