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The Lounge / Re: Elvira the cats out of the bag
« on: Today at 02:21:57 AM »
^^ Sure looks like a lot of stiletto heel marks on that wood floor!

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: New to forum. #682
« on: September 22, 2021, 03:00:00 PM »
Great car!  I like the Lime over Parchment.   Welcome to the gang.

The Lounge / What was your first Shelby/Cobra?
« on: September 21, 2021, 03:29:29 PM »
In the name of Shelby & Cobra enthusiasm, I can't recall seeing a thread about what Shelby product we first owned.

Would be cool to see original pix, info, and the date(s) that you owned it.  Even better if you still own it.  8)

And can we please have no critiques, flaming, trolling or other negative comments on this thread?  This is about Shelby fun & memories.

I'll go first.

1968 GT500KR fastback, white with black interior.  4-speed.

Bought in 1982, in SoCal.   Promptly blew-up the 427 side-oiler the PO had installed.

Stupidly let the car sit without an engine for 20 years before (even stupider) selling it to Ron Butler's son. 

After painfully serving the appropriate penance, I bought it back from Butler in 2013.  Butler had kept it stored away and completely untouched.   

I installed stroked aluminum 427 side-oiler (553 hp on dyno) from Shelby/Denbeste in 2014. 

Added a few Day Two parts. 

Listed in the 1968 Shelby Registry.   

I will never let go of the car again! 

Bottom photo is soon after car was  finished, with NHRA's Phil Burgess (left) at our old hangout in Culver City, CA.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: September 18, 2021, 12:33:44 AM »
So, she's 58 now.   Kind of kills the mental picture of seeing her somewhere today.

The Lounge / Re: Electric versus nitromethane
« on: September 17, 2021, 07:05:04 PM »
^^^ And name it "Silent But Deadly."     

It still wouldn't hold a candle to a jet car doing burner pops at OCIR. 

One time when I was there in the late '70s...two jet cars at the same time.

They blew down part of the fence behind the staging lanes.   Might have burned it a bit too.   Bitchin! 

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: September 17, 2021, 06:37:17 PM »
Did she have on a red bikini?   I'd have spilled gas all over the car.   

The Lounge / L.A. Sheriff Deputy killed in Cobra crash today
« on: September 16, 2021, 03:55:23 PM »
A terrible tragedy for the deputy and his family.

But, I'd think the reporter is incorrect where he says the car is believed to be a "1965 Shelby Cobra."  The damage makes it look like fiberglass to me.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Joe Mannix returns
« on: September 14, 2021, 08:57:43 PM »
^^Wow.  Seriously crappy wheels. 

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Joe Mannix returns
« on: September 14, 2021, 08:00:20 PM »
Good eye, Phillip. 

The Mannix Dart did originally have Rader wheels, but they were prone to some problem (I seem to remember it was the center section cracking) and were replaced with Cragar S/S chromies part way through the 1968 season of the show. 

The original Batmobile also ran Rader wheels. 

Up For Auction / Re: Can this be explained to me?
« on: September 14, 2021, 07:21:54 PM »
So, my question:  Why is fraud not fraud?  Just because it is allowed by some of those people/organizations committing the fraud? 

How about all the unsuspecting/trusting for-real bidders?  Me thinks they'd have a different viewpoint.

Definition of shill:
An accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
"I used to be a shill in a Reno gambling club"

Below is from Wikipedia...source of all knowledge  ::):  but is pretty accurate in this case, IMO.

People who drive prices in favor of the auctioneer with fake bids in an auction are called shills or potted plants and seek to provoke a bidding war among other participants.[8][9] Often they are told by the seller precisely how high to bid, as the seller does not lose money if the item does not sell, paying only the auction fees. Shilling has a substantially higher rate of occurrence in online auctions, where any user with multiple accounts can bid on their own items. One detailed example of this has been documented in online auto auctions.[8] The online auction site eBay forbids shilling; its rules do not allow friends or employees of a person selling an item to bid on the item,[10] even though eBay has no means to detect if a bidder is related to a seller or is in fact the seller.[11]

In his book Fake: Forgery, Lies, & eBay, Kenneth Walton describes how he and his cohorts placed shill bids on hundreds of eBay auctions over the course of a year. Walton and his associates were charged and convicted of fraud by the United States Attorney for their eBay shill bidding.[12]

With the proliferation of live online auctions in recent years, shill bidding has become commonplace.[citation needed] Some websites allow shill bidding by participating auctioneers. These auctioneers are able to see bids placed in real time and can then place counter bids to increase the amount. One Proxibid auctioneers' website states, "At the request of the auction company, this auction permits bids to be placed by the seller or on the seller's behalf, even if such bids are placed solely for the purpose of increasing the bid."[13]

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Joe Mannix returns
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:43:17 PM »
Thanks Tony. 

It gets attention from the young guys, but car guys age 50 and up almost always recognize it as the Mannix car.

It is fun to cruise around in.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Joe Mannix returns
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:37:41 PM »
Barris removed the faux vents on top of the hood bulges (from the factory)  then cut out the little front sections of the bulges to create functional air vents to the engine.

They're not really scoops, because they're very small and wouldn't do anything for the carb.  They're for appearance. 

Up For Auction / Re: Can this be explained to me?
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:18:33 PM »
Bob, I agree. And that is another of many things that irks me about auction houses.   

To me, when the "House" falsely raises the bid price of an item to push the selling price higher, that's fraud.   

How's that okay/legal?

Richard, can you help here? 

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: September 14, 2021, 02:12:45 PM »
Yes true, but to get to Van Nuys from Culver City, we often took the canyons, including Laurel and Coldwater, to get there.  Fun twisty roads and hardly any traffic at night, back in the day.   

I think Frank lived in Laurel Cyn.   

As for the "girl next door" chick and slot mags on the 'Stang.   8)

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Joe Mannix returns
« on: September 13, 2021, 11:13:46 PM »
My Imperial...

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