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Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 08, 2023, 02:40:18 PM

A Mustang front clip would contain the VIN and then could be built into a rebody with a known VIN and questionable history. A Mustang from the firewall back has no VIN and therefore nothing can be PROVEN that it was born as a car destined to be built into a Shelby. Best it could hope for is being built as a tribute.
[/quote] and this is where the owners credibility comes into serious question. if he is willing to perpetrate this fraud, how many has he been involved with in the past? and how many more is he planning in the future? and just how long are the 67 research boys willing to stick around with this snake oil salesman? one thing is for certain, they have both opened themselves up to a life time of scrutiny. in this case, the Holy grail hath runneth over...with Bullshit!

I believe that was George Washington's axe that was referenced. Not Daniel Boone's.

Quote from: Coralsnake on November 07, 2023, 08:34:53 AM
I would say the fact that the SRG page has changed must be a direct result of this thread.

well if it is, so be it. if they weanted to change anything else, it should be their opinion.

I once looked at a 1967 Shelby GT 500. It had its correct sheet metal stampings and vin tag. And then I checked the transmission. And it had a 67 GT500 Transmission in it. However it was from another Shelby! This is why a Transmission vin does not "solve" any mystery. It only creates one!

Quote from: BDT 739 on November 04, 2023, 08:07:27 PM
Brian Styles from the research group provided me with very good information in regard to my car, emailed me with documentation that was as good or better than the Marti report that I purchased years ago. I don't know anything about the car being questioned but I did appreciate the information that I received from the group on my 67.

yeah thats all well and good and goes along with building a good reputation in this Hobby/Business. for them to back this particular car is damaging as it creates credibility issues. for instance, where did he get the information he shared with you? did you pay for this information?  perhaps it was "Created" for you just like it appears it was for the car in question. we don't know because if someone gets caught in one lie, you have to wonder how many other lies they may have they fabricated.

Quote from: owenkelley on October 30, 2023, 02:26:50 PM
So they say the mystery of 1447 is completely solved. What did they decide the story is behind that car? Seemed like there were alot of questions on that one....

It is a Fraud at best. the only thing solved is that anybody signing off on that car as real is signing away their reputations.

Given the fact that the owner has discussed in his video about "Returning the dragster to it's former glory as an original Factory Paxton car!" and that "They have solved the mystery about this car" leads one to believe that is his full intentions. I also wonder why he himself has never contacted SAAC about the car? I think that is part of what bothers me about the whole matter. he knew what the response would be. so instead, he ran to the 67 research gang for their Blessing. in exchange for some You Tube exposure, they took the bait, hook, line and sinker. in doing so they have put their credibility in to serious question. the owner is playing it safe as he can always claim "They told me it was this car with this Shelby number and these options!" and the 67 Research group is left holding the flaming bag of Dog shit while he rubs Petroleum Primate after shave on his rosy cheeks hoping it covers up the stench created by the burning bag of shit he lit up.

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 03, 2023, 07:55:53 PM

Quote from: shelbydoug on November 03, 2023, 07:40:16 PMNo one in their right mind would attempt to pull off a fraud like this. Maybe that's the problem? They have lost their right mind?

Ego and greed are big motivators.......

I agree with that. I also see it as puppies trying to come off the porch and its time the Big dog puts them back in their place. "If you dont stand for something, you'll fall for anything!" A wise man would keep that car as found. Tell all the stories to any fool that will listen. Maybe even take the car to some vintage drags and have a good time with it. But to attempt to rebuild a car that once existed and attempt to pass it off as real just because the 67 Research group says so!? Means nothing in the real world. No matter how many times he says he solved the mystery. Shaggy and Scooby Doo can see right through this fraud. If SAAC says it ain't so, it ain't So! Thats it thats all.

Quote from: Coralsnake on November 03, 2023, 06:01:41 PM
I agree without any paperwork, numbers or tags, rebuilding this car as a Shelby should not be done. Even if every conclusion is correct. It sets a poor precedent. Just my opinion.

your opinion weighs heavy my friend. whoever don't like it can "Get ya some of that!"

I consider SAAC to be the ultimate authority on the cars manufactured from 1962-70. recently I noticed a fellow trying to anoint a 67 Mustang drag car that has had every bit of sheet metal from the floor and dash forward cut out. and now the owner is claiming it is a Shelby with a real vin because the 67 Shelby Research group told him it is. or so he claims in his online videos. personally I think it taints the respectability of the 67 Shelby Research group to get behind such a Frankenstein without SAAC recognizing the car as REAL. not to mention the owners credibility as well. do they feel it makes it real if you make videos and slap each other on the back with praise about solving the mystery and giving the car a VIN themselves? I say "BULLSHIT" and this is exactly the kind of thing the Registry was created to prevent from happening. yet here it is happening for all the world to see. the car is interesting and unique as a Drag car. it became a Drag car at some point because the owner at that time wanted to do just that. if it was or was not a Shelby has not and cannot be proven with what is left of the car. people need to look at their Moral compass and realize what is right and what is wrong. clearly trying to pawn this car off as a Shelby is wrong. and anybody that is going along with it for fame or fortune is equally wrong as well.

Times they are a changing!!

somewhere in my posts is a picture of Paul Goldschmidts Griffith that he took for a ride around the block and rolled it.

stir the witches brew!!

It will be bought and rebuilt. It is hurt but not beyond repair.

I live about 15 minutes from this dealer. I am available to examine the car in detail if anyone has interest in it. pm me.