SAAC Forum

Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 02, 2024, 09:21:19 PM
Just so you know, that is a 1968 knob. 1968 knobs have a flat top 3. 1969 knobs have a round top 3.

I agree but nobody I know including me has ever found a cutoff date approx for when the first rounded 3 showed up then they went to the second iteration(darker) of the round 3 in Jan of 69.  I have not seen any early original 69 cars or very late 68 cars to see a variance. Since to most the knobs are the "same" and I'd think Ford wouldn't just do a hard  cut off on a knob like this from one year to the next but am also thinking a supplier thing? Different supplier just making it different. It is a mystery. I have had a June 68 built KR with the flat 3 knob (I bought the very used knob off a guy who replaced his original one with a NOS one). BTW I used to collect the knobs even buying some very early repo knobs that matched the early 68 knobs(no line cut indention around the ball). Chris Simon used to have the most NOS knobs I have ever seen and he educated me on knobs(Chris owns a LOT of 68.5 cars or used to) back in the 2000s.

Quote from: Wedgeman on February 01, 2024, 01:53:46 PM
Bob Gaines,, funny you should mention that alarm. When I bought 68 GT500 #817 in 1971, it had the exact same alarm on it. I drove the car to Junior College daily, set the alarm, and went to class.  Came out one day and my passenger side wing window was open, and the 8 track player attached to the side of the console was gone...In frustration I kicked the side of the car.... and....THE ALARM GOES OFF!
I drove home... immediately removed the alarm.....tossed it in the trash. Guess it was in the end..." NOT TYPICALLY EFFECTIVE"...

Is that a Shelby shirt you were wearing in the pic?

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 02, 2024, 11:15:00 AM

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on February 02, 2024, 10:44:02 AM
You link to the Henry Ford. So is that where you could research photos? I wasn't aware if it was available from the Henry Ford. Are you saying I could go there and search photos? I get emails all the time from this site  https://fordimages.com/
  Since I am a member of the Henry Ford I would sure like to be able to search for what isn't online from them or Fordimages.

The Benson Ford Research Center archives are at the Henry Ford but it's actually a public library. Anything they have collected that is paper or film is there.
20900 Oakwood Blvd. Dearborn, MI 48120
United States
313-982-6020  research.center@thehenryford.org

The Benson Ford Research Center is part of The Henry Ford, America's Greatest History Attraction, which includes the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village. The Research Center's holdings include the historical records of Ford Motor Company and The Henry Ford, and other archival collections, books, periodicals, and trade catalogs relating to the automotive, industrial, social and cultural history of America.

The Benson Ford Research Center is free and open to the public. Members of the general public cannot check out books, but are welcome to visit the reading room to access the library and archival collections.

Thanks. Since I know The Henry Ford well-or so I thought- a google maps search of that address puts the library where ticket sales are actually. I'm sure it is near by. I'll check it out next time we visit the Village. Every year for over a decade I have put one of my Shelbys in the Motor Muster at Greenfield Village. The only time My Shelbys have ever sat outside over night. I do it every Father's Day weekend(Friday-Sunday). Great show.

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on February 01, 2024, 04:36:49 PM
Ford archives has a hand search service for anything that is not online. There is sometimes a charge but their records are well cataloged so it's not a needle in a haystack search. When they find something that you wanted they scan it for you and put it on line too.
I would be surprised if Henry didn't have a Ford photographer at the Open House. SA was an important cog in their performance development. A lot of their archival photos have the date and who's in the photo.  https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/research-databases/

Dave Freidman's collection is now in the Ford Archives - I think this is a least the 3rd-4th place he's sold it to......

You link to the Henry Ford. So is that where you could research photos? I wasn't aware if it was available from the Henry Ford. Are you saying I could go there and search photos? I get emails all the time from this site  https://fordimages.com/
  Since I am a member of the Henry Ford I would sure like to be able to search for what isn't online from them or Fordimages.

Quote from: 427Larry on January 24, 2024, 01:29:09 PM
Thanks guys. I wanted to put this out here to see if anyone else has had contact with these two.

Real simple. Ask him a question about the car that a scammer wouldn't know but you do to trip him up. Ask if the electric motor that powers the front wheels works good. My friend did this for some "wanted parts" ad. The guy had the parts so he asks him if he had a fictitious part and low and behold he did. Scammer.

Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2024, 05:57:37 AM

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 28, 2024, 04:58:31 AM
If you look at Bob's pics it appears the bracket is mounted  the way you see it in my pic below if you were peering into the trunk from the rear of the car.

It sure looks close in appearance to the ebay bracket posted earlier too.

They look close but a prior poster said not the same. That ebay one is heavily corroded/pitted. Weird in that my orange one above came out of a 70 so badly rusted structurally that when it was dragged on the salvage yard flat bed I kept the vert structural plate on it because I was afraid to go underneath and take it off. The front was on jack stands and the rear held up by the "rear end/trans" stand I made up out of unistrut. Took all the suspension off the car. The car had a 69 front end, doors(mach1 door panels)  and 69 tilt-away wheel on the car and the core support still had a 69 Mach1 428CJ R-code buck tag which I still have. 2 cars in one? Accidents happened...Great parts car back around 1991.

Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2024, 03:19:31 AM
Keep in mind that lowering the front can cause interference problems with your tires depending on size especially when turning .The metal fenders of a 65-68 Shelby just make strange noises to let you know there is a issue. The fiberglass fenders of a 69/70 Shelby aren't as forgiving and don't typically give that warning and just break chunks of fiberglass off.

+1
I see it all the time on social media people lowering and running tires too big for what the clearances were on these cars. The fronts of 68 Shelbys I wouldn't go bigger than 216-65-15 as that is the closest size to the E-70-15s. Lowering even with that tire size could cause rubbing. My 69 Mustang runs 235-60-15s up front(not my first choice) but my wheel lips have been rolled by the prior owner(Cobrask8) because they tracked the car. On the 69 Mach1 if I reverse down my driveway and cut real hard to the right as I hit the little driveway curb lip I hear a noise. Haven't figured out yet what the 235s are rubbing on but I'm pretty sure it is one side. My answer for now is not to cut so hard(Running a 428SCJ with manual steering you can understand why I'd cut hard while rolling out of the driveway). 

If you look at Bob's pics it appears the bracket is mounted  the way you see it in my pic below if you were peering into the trunk from the rear of the car.

Here is a bracket I pulled off a 70 Calypso coral vert. Kind odd how it's bare metal on a lot of it and orange. There is no paint and outlines of where washer bolts were mounted. I'd have pull my pump out to see what was going on and if has overspray on it. Car was Acapulco blue repainted over the orange when I bought it and parted it out. Gary

Yes, there is a bracket that does. I'm not sure 65-8 is the same as 69-70. I have a spare but not sure where it is and my last time looking for a spare part I haven't found it yet for another guy here(my parts are everywhere in my attic). I parted out a 70 vert in the early 90s for all the specific Vert parts as spares for my vert. I'll either find it or take a pic of mine.

Quote from: Michael Bol on January 27, 2024, 10:36:54 AM
Hope to hear from Bret soon, but he sold it to my dealer in the Netherlands I guess. I'm not worried about that but hope to get more info.

I didn't mean to ever infer that there is something wrong with that transaction as it happens all the time for cars going overseas both ways. Good luck on getting more info on your black beauty. I love black on 68s. I painted my old green 68 Black. I sold it to a guy in France in 2013. It is in FRANCE last I heard.

Quote from: Michael Bol on January 26, 2024, 05:01:46 PM
Wow, didn't even see that. Haha

So you just bought this car. Bret(Capecod) bought it a few weeks ago. What's the story here?

Quote from: owenkelley on January 24, 2024, 11:27:25 AM
I believe the car is usually displayed in the Shelby Museum in Las Vegas. it is there right now, and it is beautiful. Gary told me a couple years ago that it had been in his wife's family since new. Sounds like she'd be the perfect wife!

If you watch the video I posted above you will see Sarah's dad purchased the car out of Texas in 1999. She used to live by me in the Detroit area  until she met Gary from what I have been told. I never met her.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-IZ_2CjSx0

Quote from: Ckeene1 on January 25, 2024, 12:03:23 AM
I am looking for any information or leads on my late grandfather, Frank Martin. He was an employee in the 60s and worked with Paul Kunysz and Jack Khory. Thanks to all!

I'm sure some can help you here and Brian supplied some links. By any chance did your Grandfather have any pics he took back in the day? Thanks. Gary

Quote from: tesgt350 on January 25, 2024, 06:54:13 AM

Quote from: SCJSTU on January 24, 2024, 04:49:53 PM

Quote from: Coralsnake on January 23, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
The Florida salvage title lists it as "rebuildable". I don't think its a big deal considering its documented now.

The vendors retail value is laughable. I wonder what their reserve is?

does a rebuildable title requires a new state issued VIN?

I know in Tallahassee Florida, when I bought a Car from an Auction that said "Rebuildable", I had to take it to the DMV for an Inspection and when it passed, they put a Barcode Sticker under the Factory Sticker.

In Mi  the title will say salvage on it with no other numbers other than the VIN if it still has the original one on the car. It also states that these at auction a bidder must possess a dealer license to buy(?). So I wonder if Fla it is the same? https://www.michigan.gov/sos/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/01preston/Dealer_Manual_Chapter_5.pdf?rev=43836d1232814437bb4cb0833eeda376&hash=2C59D8323FCCF327670A5A580160174C#:~:text=a)%20For%20late%20model%20vehicles,the%20pre%2Ddamaged%20cash%20value.