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someone really doesn't like factory stock...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Ford-Mustang-Shelby-GT350-/123523553745

1967 Shelby GT350

Drivetrain   
-363 cubic in small block Dart block,Callies crank,Oliver rods,Afr head,Jessel rockers,custom quick fuel carb,MSD ignition,Milidon road race pan,assembled and dynoed by Kuntz and company 628hp @7200rpm
-KRC pulleys and power steering pump
-Custom built stainless headers and exhaust
-CR racing radiator module(has integral engine oil and power steering coolers)with dual electric fans
-Quick time scattersheild,Modern driveline hydrualic clutch,Ford close ratio toploader with Hurst billet super speedway shifter   
-Driveline hoop,Mark Williams drive shaft,Nodular 9" with 3.70 gears and traclock diff

Suspension and Brakes
-Global West upper and lower control arms(negative roll) Global West springs front and rear,11/4 sway bar,TCP spindles and bump stop tie rods,Modified Borgenson power steering box,Koni double adjustable shocks(rebuilt by Koni,were on car when purchased in 1978,sub frame connectors,equal length panard rods and underride bars were on car when purchased in 1978
-Baer brakes 13" on front 12" on rear with nickle plated Shelby calipers,adjustable proportioning valve

Wheels and tires
-Forgeline wheels with Falken Azenis tire 18x9 with 245/40R18 on front 18x10.5 with 295/40R18 rear

Interior
-Recaro seats with racing belts,Shelby gauges,Ididit tilt column and leather Lecarra steering wheel,Roll cage(was in car when purchased in 1978)Rear shelf with storage underneath,custom carpets with leather shift boot,22gallon Fuel safe fuel cell,Odyssey battery truck mounted in custom built tray.

If you have questions you can call me at 907 841-0888

Since Jeff "67_1183" figured out the ID for the red 67 GT500 at the LA Show so quickly, I thought I'd push my luck with another one.

This red GT500 (noted with A/C) also has outboards, lemans stripes, and 10-spokes.
If it's a true factory red car, there can only be a dozen or so possibilities.
I have a guess on the ID, but I'm not sure about it. Maybe someone knows this one too!

Article notes Jan 14th Detroit Auto Show unveiling of 2020 GT500, but the '67 is what I'd like to know more about.

I'd love to know the 67 Shelby ID on this one, anyone have an inside scoop?
Red GT500, outboards, flat taillight panel, valence trim, 10spokes, lemans stripes.
Looks like some brake duct scoops under the nose and no visible antenna.

https://www.motor1.com/news/280215/mustang-shelby-gt500-teaser/

I have to call out what appears to be an altered DSO document in the eBay listing. I'm not knocking the car as it looks very nice even if it's not a factory color.
PLEASE NOTE; The current seller likely does not realize this is an altered (faked) document.

The auction posts the "original" document DSO 84-2572 showing a 211F package with 1 gray unit. Look closely at the document because the package was altered and hand written in place of the original typed info. 84-2572 is a 201F DSO!
The paint color was also altered and hand written in place of the original info as 1901 gray instead of the actual red car. A gray painted car does not exist on this DSO 2572 per the registry data. That single unit painted red car is #2015. 

#1210 is listed in the registry as part of DSO 2527. There are only 10 cars in this correct DSO 84-2527. They are 211F packages, 5 are Gray, and the other 5 are Lime Gold.

The ad mentions the correct color is verified as code 1900 Medium Gray, and even shares an original B&W photo of the car back in 1967. The altered DSO is the sly part suggesting it was ordered as 1901 Silver Frost. This forthcoming information from the seller is why I don't think they realize the DSO/SVO doc has been altered.

Here's a the link to the current listing and the ad;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Shelby-Mustang-RESTORED-WITH-HISTORY-Pics-in-discription/232982588891?hash=item363ed82ddb:g:kZgAAOSwZFxb1KCI:rk:11:pf:0&vxp=mtr

Location: Fresno, California, 93703
Mileage: 130,000
Transmission: Auto
Condition: Mint
Exterior: Silver Frost paint code 1901
Interior: Black

Seller's Description: 
This 1967 Shelby GT 350, #1210 is 1 of 5 according to the Marti Auto Works report. Rare options such as special order color, air-conditioning and automatic transmission separate this fully optioned Shelby from all but four of the other 1967 Shelby's produced. The matching numbers original K code motor and a nut bolt concourse restoration make this car a turn- key blue chip investment that needs nothing more than a new proud owner. This highly documented and verified 1967 Shelby GT 350 drives like a dream and comes with all the original Ford and Shelby documents supplied by the 1967 Shelby registrar, as well as the Marti Auto Works verification report. A color copy of the original 1967 Martin Senour paint chart is also included, and is an important reference for #1210's interesting paint color history. This GT 350 is listed in the SAAC Shelby Registry, and is currently registered in California with a California black plate and a 1967 sticker. Of course there's a Carroll Shelby signature on the glove box. We have a 2019 Ford GT limited edition Lightweight arriving in January 2019 and are willing to part with #1210 if the sale is finalized prior to taking delivery of the new GT.

Color History: This car was a rare special order color from the factory, and that's where the intriguing paint code history begins. The Original document dated 1-26-67, Special Vehicle Order form from Ford Motor Company-San Jose states paint code 1901, and the car is currently painted code 1901. This documentation indicating paint code 1901 has been perpetuated throughout subsequent writings by everyone in the Shelby world, including Marti Auto Works. Only after the car was restored and painted code 1901, original photos from 1967 were discovered of this Shelby sitting in front of its first home, WHOO Radio Studio in Orlando Florida. It was then verified #1210 left the factory originally painted paint code 1900 {Thunderbird Charcoal Gray}, rather than paint code 1901 (Mustang Silver Frost) which was stated on the Special Vehicle Order form from Ford Motor Company-San Jose. In our opinion it would be a shame to, however #1210 could easily be returned to 1900 Thunderbird Charcoal Gray if the new owner wished to.

Provided with sale is a copy of the original invoice from Shelby American to Johnny Bolton Ford itemizing the following options:

Power Disc Brakes

Power Steering

Shoulder Harness

Fold-Down Rear Seat

Select-O-Matic Transmission

Radio

Air Conditioner-Select-aire

Tinted Windshield

4.0 Gallons of Gas $1.20

The original 1967 photo and write up from WHOO Radio is available

"This is a great picture from the 'WHOO Beat' of two of our WHOO station vehicles: A Honda motorbike, and the 1967 Shelby Mustang GT 'Cruise Newser,' which was used for a lot of promotional activities. We even ran it at Central Florida Dragway a couple of times! This was one hot car that even had a roll bar and fire extinguisher in the driver's compartment. The Mustang was the hottest car in America in the 60s, and this was the hottest model of them all. The vehicles are parked in front of the WHOO studios and transmitter building on Silver Star Road. Notice the typical Florida architecture and foliage." Big Bill Love-WHOO Radio Orlando Florida

Price: $195,000   

PLEASE TEXT OR LEAVE MESSAGE FOR MORE INFO OR TO ARRANGE VIEWING 559-978-7669    MATT

I believe it was in August '67 as there is a photo showing numerous planes on the site in September '67.
Would anyone know the exact date or can you confirm the month?

That leaves me with another question. Where did the last 19-24 cars get built? (September 5 units / October 19 units)
These were all GT500's that shipped to various dealers across the country when completed.
I thought I read they were sent to Hi-Performance Motors to be completed, but just thought I'd ask to be sure.

Who is Ed Casey?

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359417/1967-shelby-gt500-fastback/

Since this is a car offered for sale, here are a few thoughts;

On the positive side;
-Correct side stripe placement
-Correct flat tail panel for early car
-Correct rear valance with trim for early car

Neutral
-Large lettered Goodyear tires look great (might not be correct, but it is very close to the cutoff point around the 255th car built).

On the Negative side;
-Rocker Panel moldings? (That's a big concern for me)
-Wheel lips moldings (less concerning but still not correct)
-Vertical inboard grille (I believe this car should have a slanted inboard grille).

This clip was taken after the 9/13/64 Road America event and before the 10/11/64 Riverside GP.
My guess is this was taken after the 9/20 Bridgehampton 500 double weekend around the end of September.
No sound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcJZPjRdad8&index=1&list=PLE1Up9TYWk17dPL9mRcMg4jlyCawatlcu

Would anyone know the background on this GT. Was the "Martini" livery added by the owner or maybe it was factory or dealer applied?

Just came across this recently opened museum in Rhode Island.

It sure looks like it's worth a trip with several galleries including a large one for Shelby & Mustangs. Photos show a 1965 GT350R (and a 2017 GT350R), a '67 GT350 Paxton car, three '68's including a yellow GT500KR convertible (and a 2008 GT500KR) , a 3000 series Cobra, and a Boss 429 and Boss 302, Ford GT, etc. Check out the link for more photos

https://newportcarmuseum.org/

This is not mine, but a rare chance to own a 1 of 3 factory GT500 in Black.
Only 2 were built with a 4-speed, and the only 1 built with a thermactor.

For sale in France, (registry last reported in Switzerland)
https://www.lesanciennes.com/annonce/A209325-ventes-auto-shelby-500gt-1967.html

GT500 completed March 13, 1967. Sent March 27 to Hi-Performance Motors, El Segundo, CA. Returned to Shelby on September 8, 1967, then re-shipped to Mel Burns Ford, Long Beach, CA. Sent to Theodore Robins Ford, CA. Purchased November 12, 1967 by Mr. Michael Haley, CA. Important damage to the low engine. Purchased by Mr. Doug Sholts, CA. Purchased by Mr. Bruce Elder, VA.

Equipped with a 427 Cobra engine, she is sent to Europe in 1991, and appears in an auction in Paris. Acquired by a French collector who will keep it from 1991 to 1999. Sold in the south of France and restored, repainted in black and always equipped with the revised 427 engine. However, an error occurred during the running-in of the cylinders, causes a consumption of oil from the first kilometers of test. Disappointed, its owner puts it on sale. Acquired at the end of 2000, it is imported into Switzerland. In 2002, a complete Ford 428 engine with 428 cylinder heads and Holley double quadruple carburetor inlet are completely overhauled and installed. Taking advantage of this intervention, the engine compartment is repainted, a new hood and Shelby nose of better quality are also mounted. It was in May 2008 during a test drive that the car partially fires, obviously an electrical short under the dashboard would be the cause of the disaster. The damage is for the majority inside the vehicle, the engine only a few threads of candles are damaged, and some aluminum elements on the surface, but nothing too important. It is then acquired as is by a French collector at the end of 2008, reimported in France, where it is conscientiously repaired, the engine is extracted from its home to be controlled. The important cleaning is carried out, and the deteriorated interior elements are changed, such as the carpet, the dashboard cap, the heating box, the instruments of the dashboard, the flashlight. At the end of 2009, the vehicle found in perfect working order, and traveled only 1500 km. It is noted that during the incident in May 2008 the engine had traveled only 1000km according to its previous owner, which was confirmed during its control after fire. The two non-original elements are: the steering wheel, the reproduction rims. The car will change once again in 2014. This Shelby has never suffered the onslaught of rust or accident in his life. It still has its original monohull, it is accompanied by a French carte grise and a valid MOT.

Reiny asked that I post this article as a follow up to the previous 1966 article in that section.

I'll let him follow up with any commentary on the translation.

It would be great to see a bigger photo of this one but at LAX, still this is a neat find that is on the display board of the Shelby no55.
I believe this is on the west side of the race hanger in the back corner...

Here's a list of all the known VINTAGE 66-67 magazines articles. If I'm missing any please let us know.

1966 December "Popular Science" Lime Gold GT500 believed to be the same GT350 brochure car #0176

1967 January "Road & Track" as above, Lime Gold GT500 believed to be the same GT350 brochure car #0176
1967 January "Track & Traffic" White GT350, possible a MI plate "13M-339" hubcaps, USL, wrong located side emblems (possibly #0025)

1967 February "Car and Driver" Red GT500 #0100 CA plate "3S MFG-013"
1967 February "Road & Track" Red GT500 #0100 CA plate "3S MFG-013"
1967 February "Popular Hot Rodding" White GT350 #0050 CA plate "3C MFG-013"

1967 March "Sports Car Graphic" Red GT500 #0100 CA plate "3S MFG-013" & White GT350 #0050 CA plate "3C MFG-013"

1967 April "Motor Trend" Lime Gold GT500 #0173 CA plate "2Z MFG-013"
1967 April "Competition Press & Autoweek" White GT500 #0554 Super Snake 

1967 May "Ford Times" Lime Gold GT350 #0176 brochure pictures, Red GT500 #V-738-2 brochure pictures, White GT500 #0231 factory photo
1967 May "Motor Trend" White GT350 #0050 CA plate "3C MFG-013"

1967 August "Drag Strip" White GT500 #0554 Super Snake (multi page article) CA plate possibly "#? MFG-2392"

1967 September "Car & Driver" Tire Test

1967 November "Road Test Sports Car Annual" GT500 with A/C and louvered hood

1967 December? "Car and Driver" Yearbook Lime Gold GT350 #0176 cover, Red GT500 #V-738-2 brochure picture inside

EDIT; additions and updates in blue

There's got to be a good reason to do this. Why not take the daily driver and enjoy the great outdoors. Must be some kind of gathering.
Anyone know the car or owner?

John sent me a smaller photo of the 3/4 view photo asking for any info such as the car, date, location, and driver.

My notes have this listed as csx2009 in September 1963 at Waterford Hills, MI and driven by Tom Payne. Not sure if it was taken in 9/1 or 9/28-9/29
John adds the fellow checking the gas cap is Ben Harris.

Anyone have any other info to share about these two photos?
I suspect "Kranky" might know a bit more...

Found this on Flickr today. Maybe Dennis knows the car ID from the MFG plate. (I'll post larger versions of the smaller photos)

Since the other "It has Begun - SAAC 43" thread has transformed in a poster thread...It's a good time to start an official SAAC 43 picture thread.

I found many good photos over on the "Club Cobra" site with much thanks to Jeff Gagnon who posted so many great photos!
csx2027 and csx3018 were both nice surprises. The "Al Unser Jr" '65 R model has me scratching my head.


http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/shelby-american-inc/141269-saac43-sonoma-weekend.html

not mine....

"Offered here today is a 1967 Shelby GT500 Fastback showing just 77,000 miles on it. The exterior is clad in highly attractive Nightmist Blue paint, which further accentuates the formidable overall look of this GT500. Combine this with racing stripes and the factory Shelby 10-spoke wheels, and it becomes very obvious that this car means business. Looking at the interior of the car will reveal the all original black vinyl upholstery and carpeting. It is a well-known fact that Shelby cars were not known for being heavily optioned, however this GT500 is equipped with power steering and power brakes as well as a functioning factory AM radio. Other features include a fold-down rear seat, an all original roll bar, and factory-installed shoulder harnesses. This car even retains its original Shelby VIN plate, numbered at 2798."


No photos of the engine, chassis, or VIN tag (noted as original). No Marti report or other documents noted either.
They didn't have any problem listing the Ford VIN???
I guess they don't have a good understanding of the Shelby market.

http://www.worldwide-auctioneers.com/auctions/details.cfm?vehicleID=51&id=64

Here's my pitch to anyone attending the convention.
Please take lots of photos and share them with those of us less fortunate not to be there?

I'm hoping to continue the annual tradition to ID all the '67s with exterior photos, VIN tags, engine & grille shots, and interior views too.
(Beggars can't be choosers, so I'd be happy to see any of them)

Any coverage of the other years and models would be greatly appreciated too.

Thanks.
Rich

I saw this one a few years back at the same Thurs night "Cops & Rodders" gathering.
Since those photos were lost with forum 1.0 here's this past Thurs night photos.
Good to see someone enjoying a cruise in one of the early Shelby's.