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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 27, 2023, 07:58:18 PM »
I thought there was a Turquoise car?
Not in 1967.
There might have been consideration of #0176 originaly as shipped in a Clearwater Aqua, but, it was painted in Lime Gold for the brochure in September 1966. That car was not ordered as a Shelby, just completed that way for PR use.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 24, 2023, 10:06:12 PM »
and just to look a bit deeper in the paint colors we have a Gantt chart.
This shows us how each color was released over the model year. All cars were painted at SJ (FSJ)

Docement was removed as it is an older version...I will get an updated version and repost at that time...

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 24, 2023, 10:02:46 PM »
And last but not least, we have only the GT500 paint colors

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 24, 2023, 10:01:33 PM »
Next, we have a pie chart to show only the GT350 paint colors.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Paint colors and how they stack up
« on: February 24, 2023, 09:58:46 PM »
From the SRG (1967 - Shelby Research Group):

First, a pie chart to show how all the paint colors are divided up.

Cars For Sale / Re: 1967 GT 500 Early White 4 Speed Project
« on: February 11, 2023, 02:38:09 PM »
Per the guidelines;
We require a Shelby number to be included in the description.

In the past the criuse was the day before the show (Saturday)
Moving it to another weekend, a few weeks later, could result in losing more attendees of the cruise, or the show.
In that case, I would probably only drive out there for the show, but I may not be typical.

There were two separate Carroll Shelby owned dealerships.
They are believed to be owned and operated separately.

-The 1st dealership was on La Brea Avenue in Los Angeles.
     It opened around 1964 and closed around late 1965.

-The 2nd dealership was on North Sepulveda Blvd in El Segundo
     It opened around September 1965 and closed with LAX around late August 1967

Neither Shelby dealership was a FORD dealer.

The first CS dealership, (HPM1), was named and located as follows;
Carroll Shelby & Lew Spencer’s
Hi-Performance Motors, Inc
1150 South La Brea Avenue
Los Angeles, 90019
 (The four top people were Lew Spencer, Peyton Cramer, Al Dowd, and Tom Reese.)

The second CS dealership, (HPM2), was named and located as follows;
Carroll Shelby’s
Hi-Performance Motors, Inc
901 North Sepulveda Blvd
El Segundo, CA

I discussed the details in depth with George Watters and Kieth Champine years ago.
For quick reference we called the first dealership ‘HPM1’ and the second ‘HPM2’.
With their help, we determined the opening and closing date and there separate use.
Business cards from each dealer confirm the serparate names and addresses.

HPM1 on La Brea Ave had Lew Spencer as the General Manager.
When Carroll closed HPM1 and opened HPM2...

HPM2 had Ray Wolff as the General Manager.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 GT350 ad
« on: January 31, 2023, 06:00:55 PM »
Here is another Yamaha 180 and '67 Shelby ad, same couple...note the upper scoop light on the car

Yes, that's the other one with a '67 Shelby

The photo may have been taken at LAX...
It looks like other '67s in the picture with much of the background cleared out for the ad copy.

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 GT350 ad
« on: January 30, 2023, 11:28:30 PM »
That Yamaha ad is neat.

They did a couple with '67s Shelby's and at least one with a '66 Shelby
There are some with Cobras's...They must have had a CS / SAI connection.

car build date is actually 4/12/67 and not march as I stated, I was mistaken that scheduled date was 3/20/67, sorry for confusion...

The car 'Imming1965' is working on was built at SJ 4/12/67    and completed by SAI 5/19/67

thanks Rich for the clarification, I often wondered that...
     With all the variations of tail light panels and trim bezels and inner brackets, did any car with the raised panel come with stud version of trim ring? Or is that the same time they started using screw on type trim bezels? Because what I am seeing/working with, I cant make these stud version work with raised panel and shallow inner brackets that are supposed to be correct with raised panel.

It might be helpful to hear from others, but...

The survivor #0772 shows no trim screws with a flat tail light panel
The survivor #2310 shows the trim srcews with a raised tail light panel.

#0032 parts (photo from NVSAAC site, from many years ago, show the studs.
As an early SAI completed car it likely had a flat tail light panel.

Up For Auction / Re: Brittany Blue 67 GT500 on BAT
« on: January 20, 2023, 09:04:16 PM »
Thanks for the kind words Roy and Van!

GT/CS - California Special / Re: GT/CS stripe colors ?
« on: January 20, 2023, 09:02:41 PM »
Thanks Jeff,
Specifying the pinstripes were painted on and listed on the Marti reports was helpful. Thanks for the photos too!
My previous replay should have stated that detail, but I did not think about it long enough.

I have seen the pinstripes noted on Marti reports.
Usually they are white or black, but on rare occasions I’ve seen painted stripes noted as red.

Up For Auction / Re: Brittany Blue 67 GT500 on BAT
« on: January 19, 2023, 10:04:45 PM »
To the Person who asked "WHO HAS THEM"....... THIS ONE has the Smooth Black Seats. it

GT/CS - California Special / Re: GT/CS stripe colors ?
« on: January 19, 2023, 10:01:28 PM »
Did the California Special come with stripe colors other than white or black from the Ford factory?

White, black, red and a medium blue according to the Paul's book

Off the subject a little not sure of the available stripes for High Country or the Gold Nugget specials - the Calif Special's cousins that year and car production plant

Sometimes the Calif Specials were also ordered with the painted stripes on the side above the stick on ones. Those colors are coded into the information Kevin Marti has access to. Would expect that those stripes matched the original color of the stick on decal Calif Special stripes. They did on the ones I've owned that had the painted stripe option

How do we know if an owner changed the stripe color (from say white to black or visa versa)
Any paint / stripe color list info out there?

Might be called out/listed on the buildsheet. Haven't done a survey on the coding in the odd numbered boxes and compared them to the know original stripe color.

Thanks for the details Jeff.  The painted stripes are new to me. I've only heard about the stick on tape.
I have seen the white, black, and red striped HCS cars but never blue stripes.

I have been to the California Special website many times over the years and never saw a list for the paint with factoy stripe colors listed.
Recently there was a rare Pebble Biege CS with red stripes. that started me looking closer.

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