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Quote from: Karguy on August 24, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
I recently acquired this copy of an original design of the 66 GT 350 door sill plate tag. It was drawn by a Mr. Kerr who apparently worked under Peter Brock. It was signed off and approved by a young project manager named C. Cantwell. Chuck Cantwell signed off on it 7/6/65. It might be helpful to this conversation because it shows a lot of dimensions and even the raised areas that they designed into the plate. Under the material to be use section, it says "foil with adhesive backing". The sample in the lower left corner is smooth but I believe it was just a test sample.

Thanks for sharing, this information helps makes sense of the two versions seen in the production run. The early (7/65) version was a more intricate and therefor more expensive then the later two line. This fits with how the later cars in 66 loose many of the 65 and earlier 66 features.   

6S853 is a two line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0E3_c8AxA

All we need now is someone to post a photo of their dinner, some shamwow investment advice, and a cat video.

I am really sorry the bag was stolen! You need to file a police report right away. Give the police copies of the photos of the bag and it's collectable value which I think would be at least $1,000. If you do not report it stolen you can not get it back. Make sure the place you left the vehicle is aware you filed a police report and tell them you want it passed along to all their employees that you want the bag returned. See if they have cameras and watch facebook marketplace, ebay, and craigslist. 

Quote from: deathsled on June 20, 2023, 11:48:21 AM
Once upon a time, I bought a surplus wheel with the intent to have the plastic stripped off and replaced with real walnut. For years I have had this wheel and it surfaced in my garage yesterday while looking for the oil filter wrench. Now I am back on the idea again. Problem in the past was the place that did this service is no longer in service. First off is there any place that does this anymore? Second, are there any markings that should be on the wheel to identify it as an original and not an aftermarket piece? Do the splines go bad on wheels? I understand this can be a contentious issue on the over the counter 66 wooden rims if you can find one.

The over the counter wheel for the 1966 shelby has no connection to the ford mustang wheel. You would be making a one off custom wheel so that would be up to you.

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on June 07, 2023, 10:50:32 AM

Quote from: 427hunter on June 07, 2023, 10:47:54 AM
Original wheels do not have rivets holding the spoke to the rim.

I thought after the recall all the wheels had rivets holding the spoke to the wheel.

I read that also but the only correction I have seen is the lug nut issue on the non rivet wheels. I am sure Pete can answer this question, but if you find non rivet wheels they are for sure original.   

Original wheels do not have rivets holding the spoke to the rim.

Quote from: tesgt350 on June 05, 2023, 02:18:46 PM

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What's funny is that years ago the story that carryover cars were leftover 65's came to be because of what ford did with the 1969 gt500's and 350' that were unsold - selling them as 70's. I think this misunderstanding has kept the value on the carryover cars higher then if people understood that they not 65 Shelby's but rather just the start of the 66 model year at Shelby.

If you removed the Shelby Tag under the Hood, did it show a 65 Mustang VIN# or a 66 VIN#?  I am betting a 1965 VIN#.

Of course they have 65 vins but I guess you did not understand that they were sold as 66's (with 66 features) not 65's?

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 05, 2023, 01:15:14 PM

Quote from: 427hunter on June 05, 2023, 10:57:36 AMWhat's funny is that years ago the story that carryover cars were leftover 65's came to be because of what ford did with the 1969 gt500's and 350' that were unsold - selling them as 70's. I think this misunderstanding has kept the value on the carryover cars higher then if people understood that they not 65 Shelby's but rather just the start of the 66 model year at Shelby.

2 entirely different reasons. In 1965/6 the cars were selling so fast SA ordered extra cars to assure they would have enough on hand to keep their assembly line running while San Jose was shut down for the model change. In 1969 they were selling so poorly that Ford was left with a glut of them and re-tagged already completed cars as 1970s. I imagine it had everything to do with dealer contracts that required "new model" year cars not last years leftovers. We'll see this played out again with the 1,000s of 2021/2 F150's that Ford still has stored with no electronics in them. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/45000-incomplete-ford-f-150-models-clog-kentucky-speedway/

What part of the word "story" and "misunderstanding" did you not understand? I was talking about what people said about the carryover cars not the reality of the situation. 

Quote from: SFM6S087 on January 27, 2023, 12:04:18 AM
For the record – a carryover is a car that started life as a 1965 Mustang chassis and was transformed at Shelby American into a 1966 GT350. The first 252 1966 GT350s fit into that description. That would be 6S001 through 6S252.

Also for the record, all carryovers are 1966 GT350s – not 1965.

So, in addition to being a special Hertz prototype, 6S048 is a 1966 GT350 carryover (albeit the Hertz version of the GT350). It was ordered from Ford by Shelby American on the same DSO as my 6S087 and 65 other cars. It was pulled at random from that batch to build into the first Hertz prototype.

How do I know that? Because I've been studying those 252 cars for 45 years. At one time those cars were referred to as leftover 65's, 65 1/2,'s, crossovers, change-overs, and early 66's among other names.  I and the Carryover Owners Group were instrumental in getting the automotive community to unite on the term carryover, as it seemed to most accurately reflect the history of those special cars. If you'd like to learn more we have a web site:

www.CarryoverGT350.com

The "Unique Features" page is the result of my decades of research into these cars.

Over the years I've learned a lot about these cars, but I'll be the first to admit that I don't know it all. So if you think I'm wrong let's discuss it. If your presentation is strong enough I'll admit my error and give you credit for teaching me something. I'm always ready to learn something new, especially when it involves carryovers.

Steve

What's funny is that years ago the story that carryover cars were leftover 65's came to be because of what ford did with the 1969 gt500's and 350' that were unsold - selling them as 70's. I think this misunderstanding has kept the value on the carryover cars higher then if people understood that they not 65 Shelby's but rather just the start of the 66 model year at Shelby.   

Quote from: Jim Herrud on June 03, 2023, 07:47:08 PM
I am a Shelby fan, but it is not a passion. I have a Shelby tribute and have no problem with some referring to it with apparently denigrating remarks such as "Fake Shelby". I was aware of the bias long before I decided to go down this path.

What I do have a problem with is someone attempting to place an old car, whose claim to distinction is it's having been modified at a particular location, with the oath that every Veteran has taken, pledging their life in defense of this country.

Look up the meaning of the word "Valor". In the words of Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

There is no "bias" it's not a Shelby but badged as one to fool people. The stolen valor act criminalized wearing awards not earned (later amended for financial gain), that was the reference you missed. 

You asked for a value, the only way to know what it's worth is to see if it's real.

Post some photo's.

Here is a photo of how it looks.