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#16
Thanks for the help guys.  Hoping somebody can identify him as a good friend of mine looks very much like him and I'd like to know more info and see if there may even be more photos of the guy.

Troy
#17
Can anybody identify the guy in the passenger seat?
#18
The Lounge / Re: Legendary 1965 GT350 for sale
November 13, 2019, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: EdwardGT350 on November 12, 2019, 10:05:53 AM
$485k

Almost exactly 100x the cost when purchased new  :)
#19
Up For Auction / Re: 68 KR 500 Convertible
October 24, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
A GT500KR factory sprayed in Blue with a 4 speed and AC is going to fetch a good price in ANY condition.  That is a rare car - not many more to choose from if you are a buyer with that list of must have features.
#20
John, I'm very sorry to hear about your loved one.  I'm also glad you are finding things to look forward to in the midst of all that.  I hope to see you in June!

Troy
#21
John,

I saw your car on CL.  What gives?  I'm looking forward to Indy again in 2020!
#22
Shelby has made a number of post-title conversion Shelbys.  Some started out as Ford Mustangs and some started out as Shelby GT500s.  I've already stated (Bill has shown documents) that the GT-H should be considered a post-title Shelby conversion.  The SGT and GT500KRs are the only pre-title Shelby cars out of LV that I'm aware of.  For this reason I think they are significant.  More collectible or more valuable is in the eye of the collector.  No large group/entity is going to to agree on what is "best".

A GT-H was quite simply this: A Ford Mustang GT ordered and purchased by Hertz, which was drop shipped to SAI where parts were removed and added to make it a Shelby GT-H.  They were always Hertz's cars from the start, so they were never sold as "Shelbys" except as a used car from Hertz calling it as such.  Any owner titling or registering these cars have a Ford Mustang GT on their title and registration.  That doesn't mean they are not considered Shelby cars by those who now own and love them. 

In 2007 and 08 Ford decided that the Hertz program was popular enough to do it themselves so they contracted with SAI to do the same thing Hertz did, but this time they sold them as NEW completed cars through FORD dealerships..  This is also the very same way the GT350 was built in 66.  I don't know how GT500KRs or SGTs are titled/registered.  I know my dad's original GT350H is titled as a 1966 Ford.  I know the late model SGTs and KRs have a Mustang window sticker with an addendum and SAI also supplied a second window sticker.  Confusing.  However, I don't think these details mean much to collectibility.  People will buy and collect what they like, generally. ;)
#23
Doug certainly has the goods.  This should be fun.  Wish I had a "like" button.
#24
Quote from: SHELB66 on October 04, 2019, 03:25:55 PM
This is from Galpin Ford (North Hills, CA).  They will help put you in the driver's seat of a 40th anniversary edition Shelby GT350H.

Craig R.

Craig, my car (#229) was purchased from Galpin by the first owner after rental use.  Very cool, and I have not seen one of these flyers before. 
#25
Most here know I'm in love with the Hertz cars.  Check out my handle, for cryin' out loud!  I also own a 2006 GT-H.  I agree these should be ones to look for in the future.  Having said that...

I think the 08-09 GT500KR cars deserve a seat at the table.  These were genuine pre-title Shelby Mustangs sold through Ford dealerships as completed Shelby cars complete with Ford warranty.  Just like they did in the 60s and just like they did with the 07-08 SGT.  Unlike the SGT, the KR has more unique parts and lower production volume. 

As much as I love the GT-H cars they aren't quite in the same category as the GT500KR, simply because they should likely be considered post-title Shelby conversion cars.  However, their historical significance (GT-H) is unmatched with putting Shelby Mustangs back on the map in 2006 and of course the nod back to 1966 when the Shelby GT350H catapulted the Shelby Mustang into the mainstream. 

The problem with both of these vehicles (and all the so-called future collectibles) is that there are far too many that all look the same; each with low miles because they haven't been enjoyed properly.  I find it humorous how many GT-H cars have been stored away with only their rental use miles...all in the interest of preserving the value.  I drive mine!  Why should the renters get all the fun (:

#26
The Lounge / Re: The Art of Racing in the Rain
August 11, 2019, 10:15:10 AM
Loved the book and really enjoyed the movie yesterday.  Not a dry eye in the theater.  Expect to see Golden Retriever pups command big money this fall (:
#27
The Lounge / Re: 289 HiPo- How many were made?
July 31, 2019, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 31, 2019, 07:11:07 AM
Quote from: Richstang on July 30, 2019, 08:59:35 PM


That's the one I was thinking of. Those numbers make the K Mustang a rarer car then a Shelby.

yup
#28
No matter how you slant it that was a terrific buy!
#29
You still have time to register... No MCA membership required for display only classes.  Registration closes June 20.  Hope to see some of you there.
https://www.northernstarnationalmustangshow.com/

Troy
#30
Are there two different shades of parchment that Ford used in 1967?  If so, was there some sort of cut-off date when they switched?