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The Lounge / Re: 65 R replica vintage racer on ebay - Opinions please.
« on: April 01, 2018, 08:47:02 AM »
As mentioned above if going vintage racing you are doing it for a reason. The look and feel and sound of a vintage mustang is what completes the experience. Theres just something very special about hustling a 50 year old  car on steroids around a race course. There doesn't seem anything very special about a modern car converted to race status. Look around your shopping mall,every third car is some kind of configuration of a modern mustang. That flat plane crank and the sound they make in those engines would disqualify me from ever wanting to run one. We are all part of a vintage experience here on this site for a reason,the sight,sound and feel of these dinosaurs are what excites the senses. A modern race car will put the spank down on the old stuff but do we really care? So after some soul searching you will know what direction you should go in when your ready to load the trailer up and head out to your local track... Good Luck :)

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Up For Auction / Re: Let The Comments Begin
« on: March 31, 2018, 06:58:06 PM »
http://registry.teamshelby.com

Right from the Shelby American website

www.shelbyamerican.com
They have been running that "registry" for years.  You can enter information but you can view anything.  What good is a registry if no one can access the information?
                                        Well they made AIR CARS they probably make AIR REGISTRIES- :'(
QSS

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Up For Auction / Re: Let The Comments Begin
« on: March 30, 2018, 08:41:57 PM »
One thing I learned over the past 40 years of building cars, don't let your imagination run away from interested people in your project. Just because the owner or owners representative drank the COOLAIDE doesn't many any one else on the planet drank from the same punch bowl! Its a nice 65 with some stout parts. Nothing more nothing less- Put it up for sale on the internet starting at .99 cents and see where it goes,there will probably be some long faces when its over :'( I do like it just not at the perceived value-

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Most don't care or even know who PJ or George are... :'( Ol shell is what matters to the unknowing crowd.

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Honestly, I can see where someone might want an R model clone on steroids built by part of the original crew.

HOWEVER, the marketing suggests the car is something it’s not. And, I agree - taking a special car like an original K code is disconcerting.

And, the price? Think of what type of REAL Shelby you could buy for that money. You’re well into an extremely nice, true Shelby for a quarter mil.
  Agreed ... I think for 100k I could have a R model clone that would run circles around that over priced over exaggerated Dinosaur built dinosaurs. Everyone likes something different ,That's what makes the world go around. Todays builders and technology are AWESOME!!!

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The Lounge / Re: What motor oil do you use in your Shelby
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:08:10 PM »
There are numerous oils, boutique and otherwise, more than  good than enough for our vintage engines. We are fortunate to have such a wide selection to choose from with no apparent significant downside to any of them. 

To those people who drive infrequently enough to only need a single yearly oil change, I would urge y'all to make that yearly oil change it before the car is put to rest for the winter, not after the winter slumber.  That way the acidic combustion blow-by, however minimal it may be, is not munching on your engines bearings while it sits over the winter months.

Additionally, consider this: just drive the dang thing more ! Someday you won't be physically or mentally able to drive, and you'll be wishing you had just ONE more day behind the wheel to remember the joy of it all....

Personally, I've  been putting Mobil 1 15w-50 in both small and BB vintage Ford engines for a little over 20 years. including every variety of Ford's 200, 260, 289, 302, 352, 390, 406, 427, and 428 CJ & SCJ.  Have also put it in customers cars, including e type Jags, XK-120's, Triumph TR-3, 4's and 6's., MGA's, Sunbeam Alpine's, Jensen- Healey's,  Sting Rays, and Chevelle's, the list goes on and on.  I just like the way an engine wears with that oil:  that is, undetectable.  The ease of availability and price are hard to beat as well

The Mobil 1 0w-40 is a great oil too, especially if you drive in a cold winter, but their 15w-50 is faultless above 25 degrees F. which is cold enough for me.

Mobil 1 oil filters are pretty good too.

Z

PS   if one must use an oil w/o the sufficient amount of zinc and phosphorus (1200 ppm minimum of each in my view) then use a zddp additive. The best one I know of is:    http://www.cam-shield.com/
it comes with a formula concentration table so you know exactly how much concentration of zinc / phosphorus you are engine up with.  It takes VERY LITTLE Cam-Shield to bring up the standard level of zinc found in todays oil, usually 800 ppm, to an acceptable level in the 1200's, or more. So the oil is not being diluted significantly as is the case with other additives requiring a much greater volume of additive to accomplish the same thing. Of course, the best strategy is to use a proper oil in the first place.

Z +1
  Z- I agree with most everything you said above,so MOST all streetable hydraulic cammed engines from the most mundane six bangers to a performance 460 and everything in between will run very well on standard 30 weight or whatever is on sale at the auto parts. Many on here feel good about spending 50.00 dollars on an oil change with specialty oils when the bargain brand will do just fine. Remember 50 years ago 100s of millions of cars ran on 30weight and got approx. 100k miles of trouble free driving. Today most of these cars might see 500 miles of driving if there lucky. Sorta like running 18 dollar a gallon race gas when their 8 to 1  302 wont even ping with 40 degrees of timing in the 110 degree desert... to each his own ;D

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The Lounge / Re: Models with Shelbys, Mustangs and Fords
« on: March 29, 2018, 01:21:07 PM »
Faux vintage shot... ;)

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I look at my house ,my car ,my wife ,all in the same light. I love them all but I don't want to go out on the town with my wife that has a dirty blouse, bra, toes sticking out the end of her shoes just because she has owned that stuff for years. Same with the house,I don't want paint peeling ,weeds growing in the yard, and a swimming pool full of algae because it gives it the original look to the house. The same holds true for my cars. A kick ass engine .paint and interior work etc puts the smile on my face as well as those that see it at the races,car shows or out the the streets. My thoughts are we purchase cars at the dealerships to get a beautiful car so why not make your pride and joy at least as good as it was 50 years ago. :)

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: 65/66 coupes - non-Shelby
« on: March 27, 2018, 08:26:34 AM »
Look at the decorative quarter panel trim on the sides of the car. A 65 will have a vertical bar looking trim while the 66 will have this bar with 3 fingers sticking off of it. If it has been filled pull the interior panel and look what holes have been filled. This will explain what it started as. Holes in vertical line is a 65. ;)

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The Lounge / Re: Tear-down & re-build a 289 in 5 minutes!
« on: March 24, 2018, 07:14:53 PM »
The joy that little chunk of aluminum and cast iron brings..... Priceless      The most important part left out was the breakin procedure a thumbs up wont cut it. :-[

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Before the May 10th Kent races and possibly after the March 21st 12 hours of Sebring race this Team photo was taken. "Gurney for President"
The photo was published in the May 67 Car and Driver issue. Does anyone know that exact DATE when the photo was taken?

I'm not 100% certain this is the same Ford HD1000 COE cab seen in the previous race photos.
This Ford cab has a white front bumper with lights mounted under it. The previous cab had a black front bumper with the same lights mounted under it.
I suspect this photo was taken in Venice so everyone could get in on the fun.

   That right there folks is a Sh.. load of talent that only a smooth talkin chicken farmer could put together!

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 428 thermostat
« on: March 24, 2018, 06:48:30 PM »
+1  And large diameter holes flow better then small ones- :)

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Greek-   That is a similar story to my Beauty and the Beast story of 1189. My car was a street raced, drag raced,road raced,run hard put away wet car. So it had a hard, short life of only approx. 5 years before it was parked for nearly 47 years! So bringing the car back to life has been very fun and stressful at the same time wondering and worrying what way is best. After discussing its rehabilitation with 100s of people I concluded that day 2 is what I like best its what the previous owner liked best therefore that's the life that this car will have. All components needed attention after nearly 50 years of use and abuse. Back in 1971 it was one of the most beautiful and fastest street racers back on the east coast with a gorgeous Nightmist Blue paintjob and an equally feared full boogie 427 tunnel port. So this is what created the finished image in my minds eye of how it would return to the streets and tracks again. All fresh and shiny new, with parchment interior. Ready to take on a fresh start but less the drugs and alchohol of the 1960s-70s. No BLUE CHEER for this guy :)

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I will jump in on this discussion because I have a little experience with the emotions you are experiencing. I have had many cars over the years that I needed to make a decision with. Your opinions may vary from mine but I prefer excellence for most parts of a car. I enjoy having a day 2 build because that's the way we did back in the day. Having a few more coins than when I was  teenager allows me to have a nicer paint job or better engine then back in my youth. I REALLY don't like vintage worn out paint,engines,upholstery, etc. For me a stunning restoration to better then new is what I prefer,but some cars like my 63 split window original survivor car I felt I had to leave it alone,it pained me more then words could describe to leave it alone but I did against my better judgement. So I guess everyone has that road to cross with different cars, but most look and drive better then they did 50 years ago with a new restoration. :) Just my 2 cents.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Trans am break parts
« on: March 21, 2018, 07:38:59 PM »
Doug That's some good info there... Thank you :)  I knew there was some info you were keeping from all of us. Hopefully the trans am brakes don't(break!)

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