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#1561
Look at the decorative quarter panel trim on the sides of the car. A 65 will have a vertical bar looking trim while the 66 will have this bar with 3 fingers sticking off of it. If it has been filled pull the interior panel and look what holes have been filled. This will explain what it started as. Holes in vertical line is a 65. ;)
#1562
The joy that little chunk of aluminum and cast iron brings..... Priceless      The most important part left out was the breakin procedure a thumbs up wont cut it. :-[
#1563
Quote from: Richstang on March 24, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
Before the May 10th Kent races and possibly after the March 21st 12 hours of Sebring race this Team photo was taken. "Gurney for President"
The photo was published in the May 67 Car and Driver issue. Does anyone know that exact DATE when the photo was taken?

I'm not 100% certain this is the same Ford HD1000 COE cab seen in the previous race photos.
This Ford cab has a white front bumper with lights mounted under it. The previous cab had a black front bumper with the same lights mounted under it.
I suspect this photo was taken in Venice so everyone could get in on the fun.

   That right there folks is a Sh.. load of talent that only a smooth talkin chicken farmer could put together!
#1564
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 428 thermostat
March 24, 2018, 06:48:30 PM
+1  And large diameter holes flow better then small ones- :)
#1565
Greek-   That is a similar story to my Beauty and the Beast story of 1189. My car was a street raced, drag raced,road raced,run hard put away wet car. So it had a hard, short life of only approx. 5 years before it was parked for nearly 47 years! So bringing the car back to life has been very fun and stressful at the same time wondering and worrying what way is best. After discussing its rehabilitation with 100s of people I concluded that day 2 is what I like best its what the previous owner liked best therefore that's the life that this car will have. All components needed attention after nearly 50 years of use and abuse. Back in 1971 it was one of the most beautiful and fastest street racers back on the east coast with a gorgeous Nightmist Blue paintjob and an equally feared full boogie 427 tunnel port. So this is what created the finished image in my minds eye of how it would return to the streets and tracks again. All fresh and shiny new, with parchment interior. Ready to take on a fresh start but less the drugs and alchohol of the 1960s-70s. No BLUE CHEER for this guy :)
#1566
I will jump in on this discussion because I have a little experience with the emotions you are experiencing. I have had many cars over the years that I needed to make a decision with. Your opinions may vary from mine but I prefer excellence for most parts of a car. I enjoy having a day 2 build because that's the way we did back in the day. Having a few more coins than when I was  teenager allows me to have a nicer paint job or better engine then back in my youth. I REALLY don't like vintage worn out paint,engines,upholstery, etc. For me a stunning restoration to better then new is what I prefer,but some cars like my 63 split window original survivor car I felt I had to leave it alone,it pained me more then words could describe to leave it alone but I did against my better judgement. So I guess everyone has that road to cross with different cars, but most look and drive better then they did 50 years ago with a new restoration. :) Just my 2 cents.
#1567
Doug That's some good info there... Thank you :)  I knew there was some info you were keeping from all of us. Hopefully the trans am brakes don't(break!)
#1568
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 428 thermostat
March 21, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
Well we could go on forever with this, but what about pinging when you are just toodling around the neighborhood at 200 degrees temp say cruising the LV strip at 110 degrees outside. All things equal quality, of fuel,timing,carbs etc. In many of my cars I don't even run a T stat I just change the hole size in a water flow restricter. your not trying to open up anything your just trying to regulate your coolant flow capabilities. With this you can find the sweet spot in any car. Not rocket science,just a little trial and error.
#1569
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 428 thermostat
March 21, 2018, 09:30:04 AM
I think we understand the law of averages that the auto manufacturers needed an AVERAGE temp T stat for cars shipped all over the world. 180 seemed to be the number- Since temps are wildly different in various parts of the world different heat ranges of T stats are available from 160-200 that's just when they open not where the engine operates at. You could write a book on variables from RPMS,LOADS,HORSEPOWER,FRONTAL SURFACE AREA,SPEEDS ETC. The common guy driving his common car,presumably stock 302-428 to the grocery store or local shows or whatever need not cringe when his T stat opens at 160 it will settle in to its 180+ range if not, a simple change to a different heat range will fix this problem typically in colder climants. :)
#1570
Quote from: Richstang on March 20, 2018, 09:04:07 PM
This last photo of the F250 pickup with bed cap / roof rack appears on May 8, 1966 at the Laguna Seca USRRC event.
Now they've painted the entire truck in dark blue and added the "COBRA Powered by Ford" lettering.

Check out the speakers on the roof rack. What would those be used for?


Back than as today some tracks don't have a PA system that is worth a sh.. You could and still can turn your radio on to a local station usually some unknown am station and get all day updates on whats going on at the track. that way everyone around the pits could here whats going on. We all sometimes need to ask our fellow competitors when is practice or delays due to track cleanup or whatever. That's my guess.
#1571
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 428 thermostat
March 20, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
when you live on the left coast and it is 110 degrees or better all summer long the angry hot big blocks love the T stat to open at 160 and while driving they usually settle in around 190-200 for optimum performance. Just some personal experiences from the left side.
#1572
1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Sleeping Beauty wakes up
March 20, 2018, 06:50:55 PM
While the interior is gutted and ready for an install I located my original gauge pod and was wondering if the factory wiring harness had pigtails added for the install of the gauge pod, or was the loom cut and spliced at SHELBY AMERICAN.
#1573
As most know I'm a big block guy that loves torque, but that tiny twin turbo ECOBOOST is the ultimate for doing all things well! :)
#1574
GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: "Yard Find" GT-40 P1005
March 20, 2018, 10:18:01 AM
Ceramic coated headers don't burn... well sorta :'(
#1575
So there has been some good help here to get you thinking, but we have not addressed the tow vehicle situation. Rule of thumb here is BIGGER is BETTER. Will a f150 tow an enclosed 24 foot hauler with car yes it will. I did it for years but with a load leveler hitch,tranny cooler, and air shocks. This was necessary for my combination to work well. So if you have 5000 or 50,000 to spend on a hauler get something you will enjoy on your way to your event. I have an Ecoboost set up that pulls 10,000 lbs like its not even there. So remember what our fathers towed with,most had station wagons and half ton trucks this was good enough for 99 percent of the population but they didn't have enclosed trailers back then. Good luck on your search.