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Up For Auction / Re: '65 GT350 on BaT
« on: March 27, 2019, 11:07:53 AM »
I'm extremely interested in this because it's similar in many ways to my own car, #159. It's a "weapons grade" race car as the guys in Sports Car Market call them. Cars that are prepared exclusively for the track, or pure race cars.
My thoughts are that cars like this should remain race cars. It would take so much work and effort to "undo" what has been done that little originality would remain. It would have been replaced and erased. My own car was converted to a race car in the 70's by a well known racer in the Shelby world, Don Cummings. It has far more history as a race car than a street car. Why erase all of that? Same with this car. Its got a great look and I'm sure it performs well. Is there a penalty on the value? Of course. I have no issue with that at all. Its not a concours or original car. I have no idea what that price penalty is, or what it should be. I guess we'll see if it sell. I don't worry too much about that title issue, as I have purchased cars from no-title states and simply presented the bill of sale in Ohio and I was issued a clear title. This applies to pre-1973 or whatever it was for the particular state. Yes, a thorough history needs to be established to make certain that a title doesn't pop up in another state, but that's shouldn't be that hard with ownership history and intact Ford VIN number on the aprons of the car.
Related to this but maybe a separate topic is an analysis of how many '65's have been modified and made into track cars? As I read through the new '65 registry and look at the pics it seems like a very high percentage of cars have some small tasteful mods. I was going to do a causal count but didn't get around to it. I'm guessing 20% maybe.
Regardless this is very very cool car in my view. And with the cost of restoration back to original specs, it would make more sense to go buy a "correct" '65 vs. converting a car this modified back.
I'll be very interested to see where it closes. I'm going to go out on a limb and say around $200k.
Mike C
My thoughts are that cars like this should remain race cars. It would take so much work and effort to "undo" what has been done that little originality would remain. It would have been replaced and erased. My own car was converted to a race car in the 70's by a well known racer in the Shelby world, Don Cummings. It has far more history as a race car than a street car. Why erase all of that? Same with this car. Its got a great look and I'm sure it performs well. Is there a penalty on the value? Of course. I have no issue with that at all. Its not a concours or original car. I have no idea what that price penalty is, or what it should be. I guess we'll see if it sell. I don't worry too much about that title issue, as I have purchased cars from no-title states and simply presented the bill of sale in Ohio and I was issued a clear title. This applies to pre-1973 or whatever it was for the particular state. Yes, a thorough history needs to be established to make certain that a title doesn't pop up in another state, but that's shouldn't be that hard with ownership history and intact Ford VIN number on the aprons of the car.
Related to this but maybe a separate topic is an analysis of how many '65's have been modified and made into track cars? As I read through the new '65 registry and look at the pics it seems like a very high percentage of cars have some small tasteful mods. I was going to do a causal count but didn't get around to it. I'm guessing 20% maybe.
Regardless this is very very cool car in my view. And with the cost of restoration back to original specs, it would make more sense to go buy a "correct" '65 vs. converting a car this modified back.
I'll be very interested to see where it closes. I'm going to go out on a limb and say around $200k.
Mike C