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also remember several Pantera's parked in the Dearborn test track infield with "scrap, parts only" spray painted on the hoods!

just used up cars then !! 

jim p

In the "new items' there is discussion of "engineering cars" and their ultimate disposition...

there is a member here "66GT350" that was involved in the mid 70's with arranging the disposition of an engineering car.

66GT350 worked in the manual transmission engineering team in the Market street building just west of the Livonia Trans plant, Livonia, MI
the project was developing the overdrive trans package to be released in the Granada platform, so they ordered a production Granada with the 3.03 3sp 250 CID 6 cyl with the 2.79 diff as I recall. 
I believe this was prior to the SROD was developed for the F series truck platform, so it still had the external shift rods.
The car was modified with the toploader OD trans, and 3.00 diff.  It was a feasibility study not a certification/calibration car as I recall.
When the work was complete the manager tasked 66GT350 to "return the car to production" and ready it for sale on the "B Lot"

So "somehow" a mistake was made and the car went to the B Lot WITH the OD trans still in it & the 2.79 diff reinstalled ( better OD gearing ), extra set of brake pads and a new clutch were "left in the trunk" and he also "Tagged" the car for purchase from the B Lot! ??

His dad ended up as the actual purchaser of the "special gas economy" spec Granada when retiring to Columbus IN.

so I've "outed" this insider scheme to configure an engineering car.

regards,
jim p

1965 Daytona Continental 2000Km SAI HT1000 rig

Indy Speedway Museum restoration of Dan Gurney's Lotus 29/1 1963
This segment shows reassembly wok on the 1963 pushrod 256 CID "Indy" engine.....

seems there was alot of unique design features, such as the better head fastener design,
that had they incorporated into the 289/302 FSB racing engine development,
they may have not had the GT40 Mk-I engine failures in 1964, 1965 that weren't resolved until JWA received the abandoned FoMoCo
small block patterns and adapted the Gurney-Weslake heads to produce the 1968/1969 JWA/Gulf successes?

What would have been the implications if they further developed into the Trans-Am program instead of messing around with the TP302 ??
It seems Hi RPM performance works for NASCAR,    mid-range torque works best for powering out of corners in Trans-Am and Chevy seems to have had the head start with SBC development 

https://youtu.be/Qa5PiDRhV7Q?si=bvhHTDDxP70H_Rqc

enjoy

jim p

Quote from: Side-Oilers on December 07, 2023, 12:35:40 AM
What a ridiculous comparison...was that Patrick Dempsey?   

I drove the Porsche F2 car from 1960-ish that was Dan Gurney's car in Targa Florio or Monaco, or similar (haven't looked it up recently.)

Porsche took it out of their museum for me to drive at their 50th anniversary event at Laguna Seca in 1998.

With just about zero instruction, they sent me out on the track. Narrow-gate crash box, rock-hard museum tires, leaking brake cylinder on the floor by my feet...all kinds of fun stuff to deal with, on track, with my learning curve that was 100% vertical.

Fortunately, I didn't crash, lag behind, or make an idiot out of myself.  Amazing opportunity and memory. Kudos to Porsche for trusting me.

Now, that's a race car!   I could drive any new Ferrari with one hand tied behind my back.

reading the comments, my take was Dempsey's comments were regarding the "movie cars"....

but cars in the movie's action sequences were actually Caterham chassis with vintage bodywork built on top, Dempsey explained.
He described the feel of driving these cars as "a bit like being in a Ferrari 550 Spyder," complete with concerns about the lack of any sort of protective cage.

just my take
jim p

I watched an ESPN documentary on a flight a couple of years ago, but haven't been able to find it again.

It covered the controversy of Ferrari drivers killed during the "deadly decade" of the 1950's for Ferrari team drivers.
Enzo was also charged for criminal negligence as the car manufacturer of spectator deaths at an Italian race, ( can't recall right now the event).

Peter Collins, Luigi Muso (CS's friend), Alfonso de Portago

Ferrari famously said to his drivers: "Win or die, you will be immortal."

SO I'm interested in which version of "Enzo" is presented??

jim p

https://youtu.be/I7e-o7h0HUs?si=SGuqgqj55bb6tsDb

enjoy !

jim p

2016 Pebble Beach

I think I can do this from memory, front to back

Edsel Ford II
P1046
J5 * P1015
P1075 * J4 * P1016
M10003 * P1040 * J6 * P1031/1047
GT109 * GT103 * GT101R * M3 continuation * AMGT-2 * M3-1101 * XGT-3

I thought the story was CSX2286 was going to be Carroll's "secret weapon"  for Le Mans 1965 with the aluminum 390, but both engine ( FoMoCo engine division ) delays and construction delays  meant it wouldn't be ready for Le Mans.

And perhaps more importantly it would have to compete in prototype class not GT, so it would be directly competing with GT-40s,
I don't see FoMoCo, who has earlier that year dropped the un-successful GT program in SAI's lap to produce wins ( or else ?) and is bank rolling SAI,
being very happy with Shelby showing up with a car that could run with the GT-40s for a LOT less $'s ??

jim p

we used to use the 1/2 Qt larger FL-299, same by-pass pressure, nipple thread.
I seem to recall a Ford engineer told us same filter manufacturer back in the day and same filter element as FL-1A

just for your consideration.

jim p

I'm surprised this has not been posted here previously.  perhaps it was on Forum v1.0?

https://youtu.be/EOG5ngpVTT4?si=uT2hPlLU0_4x1s1n

Was at Indianapolis Raceway Museum as P1046 clone "as received from Ford in 1968"

interesting footage of the work to restore, including some unique Mk-II features.

I very much liked the part where they took Mose Nowland around Indy in the restored car!!

enjoy

jim p

" The temporary fix is so that I can drive it down to the shop that I deal with.  ..... and I will get the pan fixed at the same time."

just wondering what the intended "fix" is?  Helicoil or TIG weld up the hole and re-tap??

jim p

My Nov 5th SJ scheduled build car has 5L1 Cleveland plant stamped in both locations, so block machined & assembly  = same day ?

jim p

I believe when Ford went to the different color cars for Sebring & Le Mans they used RPO Mustang colors.

Sapphire Blue code G M1905 looks like the right shade?

jim p

2S MFG 013   - 66 GT350; 6s120 (q) (white, no stripes, Cragar wheels) Cobra Caravan NYC 65-12-15

came across this photo from the Revs Institute, could be from the 65-12-15 NYC caravan event?

jim p