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+1 to Randy.

Disappointing!  With such history of early Bronco design to base it on, they blew it. 

Trivia:  Anyone remember Arco Graphite that came out in the mid-Seventies?  It also was black, coming out of the can.

I put that in a SB Chevy and the oil temp immediately went up about 15 degrees.  Drained it after a couple of weeks and returned to Castrol GTX 10-40.  Oil temp returned to normal.

l also remember that, when my car dripped the Arco onto the driveway, it was almost impossible to get the stain out.

IIRC, the reason graphite oil wasn't sold for very long was that the graphite had a problem staying suspended in the oil. Which contributed to sludge.

Quote from: s2ms on March 05, 2020, 11:05:46 PM

Quote from: Side-Oilers on March 05, 2020, 09:21:28 PM
Here's a new project for Richstang and anyone else:  Identify those boys in the above iconic 1967 photo with CS. 

We actually had one of the 'kids' attend a WASAAC meeting years ago and talk about the experience.  I sure don't remember the details, maybe one of you guys does?

Very cool!

Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 06, 2020, 12:31:05 PM

Quote from: smith0494 on March 06, 2020, 11:01:00 AM
Hello everyone! I'm a first-time poster. I'm an attorney who is handling an estate of a gentleman who owns a 1965 Shelby Cobra CSX4246 Convertible Roadster. This is the 24th of 40 made. I'm getting conflicting accounts of what the vehicle is worth. The family wants to liquidate. For instance, Sotheby's wants to auction and placed value at $1.3M. Other appraisers have stated between $140K and $400K. I'm told it was built by Carroll Shelby himself and signed the vehicle. It has a little over 2000 miles. The pictures I'm posting are not post-detailing of the car. It's in Mint collection.

First off it is a valuable car being a SA built continuation car. I will try and put the value range in perspective. The 1.3 Million are for the vintage Cobras built back in the 60's. This is not one of those . Carroll Shelby's company Shelby American built the car just like the other vintage and other continuation cars. The vintage high value Cobras stopped being produced in 1967.There are many different companies that build Cobra replicas. Since Shelby American made the vintage cars ,when they started to build them again in more contemporary times they were referred to as "continuation cars". Carroll Shelby's company built the cars but CS was not out in the plant wrenching on the cars to build them. It is a 40 anniversary edition which is more or less special badges on the car to commemorate the time. It is apparently one of the 40 built or badged to commemorate for the occasion . It is a sub group of the many hundreds of other 4000 series continuation Cobras built between the early 1990's and present day without the badges basically. It is important to mention that unlike the vintage cars where Shelby American sold a running driving car so as to get around emission and crash standards the continuation cars were not built complete and were sold in various states of completion . At the very most it was sold as a roller with out engine or drivetrain . Someone else had to add those components and get the car running. Because of being sold as a roller there are countless variations some worst then others. As has been mentioned it is important to determine if it has a fiberglass body and the more expensive aluminium alloy body option. That difference is maybe 80K more if aluminum. Best of luck with marketing the car.

Thanks for your time to help the OP.  You stated it well. 

I got a chuckle out of your line: "Carroll Shelby's company built the cars but CS was not out in the plant wrenching on the cars to build them. "   

Nope, he certainly wasn't.  Did he even do any wrenching on CSX2000?  I'd assumed it was all Moon's guys.

Thanks Mike!  I had not seen that photo before.

Note that the kids are wearing Keds sneakers.   Remember when every kid wore those, back in the days before Adidas and the rest of the sports shoes appeared?

OK, makes sense. Thanks.   Always fun to hear a back-story.

I agree on the definition of barn find!

Interesting...that 1960 T-Bird was only ten years old when it went into the barn and never came out.

That's like a 2010 car being likewise entombed today. 

It would seem strange to do that to a 2010 car today, wouldn't it?  I wonder what that T-Bird's 1970 story was. 

In 1970, a '60 T-Bird was nothing special at all. Certainly not considered a future collectible. Probably worth $100 at the junkyard.

Here's a new project for Richstang and anyone else:  Identify those boys in the above iconic 1967 photo with CS. 

I would guess that the boys had some direct connection to Shelby employees, or friends of employees.

Each one of those guys would undoubtedly still remember that memorable day and photo.

Is this car known to SAAC?   History? 

Thank heavens they never did a four door!!!! 

+1 NC TRACKRAT

The above photos are Turn Six as the bleachers were being built.

Rich, thanks for the link.  In there was the pix of CS (standing) and who we thought might be Masten Gregory (behind the wheel) with Turn Nine in the background. I'm wondering now if it was merely a school student.  Also, the previous question of "who was that photog" is now answered: Brock.

Richard,

IMO, the rust on the hood is more likely the fault of the prop guy, set decorator or transportation dept.  Or, once on set, the director yelled "Give it more rust!"

A doubt a TV writer would go into that much detail on a car in a one-hour (48 minute) show. 

It was probably more like "Old sports car with a lot of rust pulls up to the hotel. Blonde gets out as Crockett and Tubbs rush up and pull their guns on her."

But, yes, the attention to detail about cars that most TV/film writers know about, and/or give a story, isn't too deep.

Pete, what condition are they in?  Photos?
Thanks,
Van