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Wish mine was nice enough, but concours it is not 

Quote from: gt350hr on September 04, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
Remember the 18 white w/blue cars ( of which mine is one) Well documented with SAI meeting notes . Not all white Hertz cars had gold stripes OR roof stripes.

I just put all the white cars under the White/Gold
I'm trying to add to the list if the car had stripes or not, apparently a bunch in the middle did not
Thanks to all for this info. I'll get it all "cleaned up" and send it out to all who ask. It is a Excel spreadsheet

We are in the of "cleaning out the barn" and have found a bunch of stuff and some of it might have value for those literature collectors
First, these books and papers were used by us when we were building and racing drag cars, they all have rips, tears and smudges.
one is a series of Ford "Building an Off Highway Small Block V8 (289/302/351) 24 pages
Ford "Building an Off Highway 335 Series Engine (351C and 400) 12 pages
Ford Building an Off Highway 385 Series Engine (429-429CJ-429SCJ-429 BOSS-Nascar 429-460 16 pages
Ford Building an Off Highway FE Series Engine (352-390-406-410-428....and 427)  10 pages
Missing front page Ford Building an Off Highway 1.6 and 2.0 Engine pages 3-12
PArts ID and Interchange 20 pages
Ford "Trick Tips" PAges 5-20
3 misc pages showing "Camshaftry", "Compression" and Ignition"
A one page both sides,  Holman and Moody RAce CArs, showing and illustration of a Roll Cage($1500 installed and on the back has option including a Boss 302 Holman&Moody Blueprinted $1,750
7 Pages of  Ford engineering drawings dated 4/13/64 for the ider for the timing chain on a 427 SOHC
A Ford Performance "Muscle Parts "book showing part numbers and modifications for Ford missing front cover and rear cover and pages 3-4 and 77-78 it shows, camshafts, carburetion, cam shafts "impressor kits", "controller kits" and a lot more
A Shelby High Performance Parts catalog, Small block with 2 fours on the
cover and a girl in a white bikini on the back cover
Looking to sell the whole bunch of just what you want, had then for over 45 years

Got 048 as a 4 speed and prototype
The next Vin is 279 says automatic , the next Vin for a 4 speed is 450,  both are black/gold cars  the 10 Hertz Vins in between 390,391 and then 440-450 missing 443, 444 are non Hertz cars, all the Hertz cars are noted to be white/gold
Like I said, interesting stuff

Quote from: gt350cs on August 31, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
Good job Steve. I always appreciate your many posts. I have just a couple of changes for you regarding your information.

If my records are correct concerning the 4 speed Hertz cars there were 86 with 6S048 (Prototype) being the earliest number and 6S612 being the latest number.

Also you can take at least one off of the "Present owner/whereabouts unknown". When I purchased the latest Registry, I was surprised to see that my Hertz was listed as such. I contacted Howard right away and he said that since there had not been any correspondence concerning my car it was assumed to have changed hands. There may be others where the last listed owner still retains the car.

Be careful with your research; it can become addictive as I have created several data bases using the information from the Registry as well as information found on the various Internet Forums and other resources.

And here is another shameless plug - I am still collecting first issue license plate numbers. The list is continuing to grow.

Thanks to all who have contributed their information.

Dennis

I just the ones that said 4 speed confirmed. I think Shelby's record keeping didn't really meet the standards of today.

I find looking up this kind of stuff really interesting.  Sort of like Ancestry. Com but for Cars. 

Maybe we can get everyone to send in a "DNA" swab from their crankcase and we can determine where is from 

Quote from: Shelby_0022 on August 31, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
Great info, Steve!  Thanks for sharing.

And, I have to hand it to you...counting 561 different entries in the registry...wow! 

Actually I counted 993 entries
Want to review than again, might add a column as to what the color is today and how many have been changed to 4 speeds

So a few days ago heard back from Howard he had some interesting specs on the total 1966 production, like about 308 cars are unaccounted for, a few were stolen and never recovered, a few were totally destroyed. That can be a thread for a another post, but I was interested in the Hertz cars.
I got out the latest Registry and started counting, I was amazed at how many cars have been changed to 4 speeds, painted different colors and even a few that were destroyed or stolen and there may be a couple of Air Cars out there
Here is a little of what I have found,
One it may be impossible to actually determine how many are left, some haven't been seen in decades, other just disappeared, many are reported with "Preset Owner/whereabouts not known"
9 Were Stolen and never recovered, 1 was destroyed in a fire but may have resurfaced as a re-body?
I counted 84 4 Speed cars and the rest I assume were automatics
According to the registry 561 are marked as "Present owner/whereabouts unknown". I know a couple of the cars I have seen at shows and the registry is a paper reference and the ownership changes all the times, some owners asked that their name not be shown, other just have the state in which it resides, so to tell "how many are left" may be impossible. As the cars become more expensive, more and more may resurface as the skill set, parts and even new body's making a old car new again becomes a reality.
It was fun exercise, but to answer the question, "how many are left"?
I don't think anyone can really tell, but I'm guessing around 800 or so based upon the last ownership in the cycle listed in the registry. Cars marked unknown and haven't been heard of since the early 70's may be long gone or perhaps stored away as a nice 401K investment
I'll think Ill take mine out for ride, to clear my head

Car 1431 had a set of the ones on the left when I got in in 1971, the original owner said he never changed them.  I kept the original headers going until they died a noble death around 1980 when there was nothing left to fix. Still have about 12 of the bolts left

was a spur of the moment thing, decided the night before.
I have some other shows planned
This Weds the Boatyard bar and Grill in Deale 5-9pm
National Capital Region Mustang Club, Sept 8th at Cowles Ford in Woodbridge Va. Sept 8th
SAAC Lehigh Valley Car Show Sunday Sept 16th near Allentown Pa. ( a great show with great people)
NRA Car Show at their headquarters in Fairfax Virginia Sept 23rd
The GT350 Tour in Early Oct
The Rockville Car Show Oct 20th
Bruce Larson's Dragfest, Nov 10th Dauphin Pa
The MCACN in Chicago Nov 16th-18th
and possibly the Indoor Car Show at timonium maryland Nov 30th-Dec 2 
Come on down to Deale on Weds

Quote from: Coralsnake on August 27, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
Do you know the number?

8T02J149373-01172
Show tag said it belongs to George long

Chesapeake City, up on the top end of the Eastern Shore

Seeing another Shelby at a car show is becoming rarer and rarer, I doo see some at Ford only shows but very few "early"cars, most are late models. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, they are great cars too)
This was a 1968 GT350 said to be a Hertz car. Looked very nice and it even had the "Caution Fan" decal on it

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Quote from: 1967 eight barrel on August 20, 2018, 05:29:27 AM
".......no matter what Zray says, points are problematic, especially with the poor quality Chinese made products. They just don't hold up......" 

what zray says (but no matter):

the echlin brand that NAPA sells has a very good quality of points. Am getting 20,000+ miles per set from them, with no burning, and little wear and Ohm meter showing zero resistance. I wonder how long it takes the average Shelby owmer to put 20,000 miles on their car ?

[/color]takes me about 2 years at the present rate of driving [/color

How many miles do you have on that beautiful machine Steve?

Just turned 235,000 Saturday on a 200 mile drive to a show and back, even won an award for top pick out of the 800+ cars that were there

Ford 2DR

"You got mud in your tires, we are famous for our mud"
Quote from "My Cousin Vinnie"