SAAC Forum

Quote from: shelbydoug on October 19, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
Torque wrench? OK. What are the recommended values for the aluminum manifold vs. iron?

     The use of a torque wrench does not dictate a torque value, just aids in executing and the consistency fastener to fastener of the torque value chosen!     

     Scott.

Quote from: shelbydoug on October 19, 2021, 11:59:11 AM
.......................or for that matter even a torque wrench.

     Well,...........maybe I would disagree here.  That is, a properly used torque wrench!   

     Scott.

Quote from: FL SAAC on October 18, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
I just don't know

     I'm not to 'IN' to these grossly reworked body Hot-Rods, but somebody sure worked awfully hard on that one, and it isn't the worst rendition of a ground burdened rocket-ship I've ever seen; hopefully it has been saved by someone.   

     Besides, just think, the restoration costs will be covered when rented to the movie guys for the next re-make of The Jetsons !   

     Scott.

   

Quote from: shelbydoug on October 19, 2021, 10:06:32 AM
That manifold, unfortunately, is very susceptible to breaking off that ear. I don't know if there is anything that you can do about it?

     The engineering of the unsupported flange in this area (260/289 cylinder heads) was based on the iron component which was fine; but with the substitution of the less rigid aluminum material for the intake manifold, and as a nonstandard production component probably didn't receive the engineering discover effort typically warranted, failures began to result.  Later Ford changed the intake face casting profile of the cylinder heads to provide support, but I wonder if this was thru observation of the difficulties experienced with the aluminum intakes, or due to similar failures of even the cast iron units with the propensity of air impact wrenches in use in the assembling of such items at the dealership service departments?   

     Don't over torque the bolts (particularly the end ones') and you won't have any problems; but remember, the torque values listed in the repair manual is based on the cast iron component!   

     Scott.

     These vintage race films are great!   

     Interesting bits:

      For the FE guys the Galaxies competing in England is a rare sight (pick-up @ 6.25 min.), unfortunately (for Ford) in this event of Brands Hatch Six Hour Race the little 3.8L Jaguar MKII's showed the way, as it seemed the Ford defenders just couldn't cope with getting their feet (tyres) wet; this demonstrated by the big number '1' Galaxie going round twice in the event with driver Dan Gurney as co-driven with Jack Brabham (both photographed), and finishing several laps down to the Jaguars!       

      And, (starting at about 12.50 min.) also rare views of the Jaguar factory lightweight E-Types, particularly the number '1', registration number '4 WPD' and appears to be Graham Hill as presented with the collar of roses.  But I'm not sure which event this is? .....anybody (I'm lazy, save me the research effort of looking it up!)?     

      Perhaps this should be posted on the FE Forum (at least the section relevant), though the race out come might not be completely appreciated, the historical views should be; and after all, the humility of defeat by the little six cylinder Jags won't hurt that badly!  Though........... as viewed (@ 7.33 min.) it looks a though the Jaguar is attempting to push even the fastest Galaxie off the mark out of the way!  But then, the FE guys can always point out in their defense that the number '6' car was disqualified, as upon technical inspection it was found to have not legal inlet valves installed, oh my!  But unfortunately, the other Jags that were ahead didn't get disqualified. 

       Scott.
     
       UPDATE: 

       I answered my own question, as I believe the race with the Competition Jaguars (aka. Lightweights) and Graham Hill being victorious was the Daily Express Silverstone event.      And it wasn't even a close race to victory for the Jaguar;.........if anybody cares?   

       
       

     Man, you SAAC guys let those little foreign cars into your meets?  This as in photo '1d', the little TVR.

     But it would appear you guys wouldn't let him participate as he's parked over in a corner  ; if so, to bad, as by the appearance I suspect there might be a V8 under the bonnet  , and might have proven to be a bit of a challenge if allowed to play! 

     Scott. 

     Oh, and the 'Battle Bird' is cool to! 

Quote from: shelbydoug on October 14, 2021, 06:29:15 AM
You mean everyone isn't running 500+ hp small blocks? 

     500?!   

     It seems the most common request made by potential customers that enter our shop over the last decade or so follows something like:

          I know it's easy to do, but I don't want to make a thousand horsepower or anything like that, after all I don't want a race engine,.......... ya-know, just your average "mild", "street" engine, making only maybe six hundred or so horse!   

     With the additional follow-up of: 

          Because I (customer) don't really know anything about cars, and don't want something that I would have to work on or fix!     

     Scott.

     

Quote from: TA Coupe on October 14, 2021, 02:59:10 AM
You might need a small base circle cam?     

     Do not get sucked into the "Small-Base-Circle" cam programs!   

     Scott.

Quote from: shelbydoug on October 09, 2021, 04:30:52 PM
How fast are you going to require aluminum lugs?

     It had more to do with the intended applications; that being of generally light weight little European sports cars, most often with not so powerful little four cylinder engines, this where just a little difference just 'might' be noticeable.     

     Scott.

Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 07, 2021, 02:27:57 PM
I can assure everyone that the most basic stainless steel alloy is stronger than the aluminum lug nuts that Minilite has shipped with their wheels - along with the warning to use anti seize.

     Yes, I would agree, but the fact that someone in the past may have practiced something, that in particular "has" been discontinued, doesn't lead credence to some other adopted practice.  In a somewhat removed example, aluminum valve spring retainers 'were' somewhat popular several decades ago, appreciated for their light weight (same as with the lug nuts), but with experience it was determined that this really wasn't such a good idea; and along came titanium!   

     And yes, with aluminum some sort of anti-seize consideration had better be had!   

     Scott.

Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 29, 2021, 01:06:01 AM

.........top is unfortunately not anything that was used in 68 originally.
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      But is the top a Ford O.E.M. component, if from another application?  Looks sorta like it was installed on a dual carb set-up previously?   

      Scott.

     That's quite a distance from the outside rocker panel to the inside seating position; I would doubt that this would be produced as represented here.     

     Scott.

Quote from: Cobrask8 on September 27, 2021, 12:23:37 PM
...........snapped the crank at #2, and sent the first throw out the front of the block.

     I don't think in the cases where the crankshaft segmented, one can really criticize the block for being broken.  And we have seen many a good block destroyed in such melees.     

     And, even if the block hadn't broken, chances are the main saddles would be pushed out of position, hence, you still throw the block away!   

     Scott.

Quote from: honker on September 02, 2021, 10:47:54 AM
Showing my age here ! back in the day we called them "necker's knobs"

     We had a '59 Ford wagon made into a "Ranchero" with what we in these parts at that time just called a "Speed-Handle" or "Speed-Knob"     

     Scott.

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on September 14, 2021, 01:21:53 PM
Unless it is a classic Corvette. Those get torn to shreds.

     
    Yeah, I was the high bidder recently on one I liked (easy with the stone throwing!     )  but it didn't meet the sellers' reserve; and apparently by a significant distance as he didn't bother to contact me post the auction to see if a deal could be accomplished.     

    I think the Vette's are more of a commodity item in the market place as compared to the say Shelby's which seem to suffer from greater swing numbers in transactions.

    And, to clarify my position on this Shelby sale:  There is good to be had from an accurate discussion of what something is, particularly in the light of attempting educate the interested but less informed on the particular subject; but also to a great degree many of these old car subjects are solely whim participation events (aka. a hobby!), and here, if the seller is satisfied, and the buyer is happy, it was a good transaction.     

    Scott.