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Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 18, 2024, 07:37:57 PM
Sometimes you can find the big books on Ebay or swap meets.

+1 They are great resources though a bit bulky and a challenge to store since they are not on the typical book or page size format

Quote from: KR500 on March 14, 2024, 05:18:05 PM
I am doing a 66 GT 350 and have a few detailing questions. It is a mid April Ford build.
Q.#1 What finish would the heater hose elbow at the intake manifold be? Gold cad. silver cad or engine blue?

By the time your engine was assembled it appears that the elbows were not being swapped from the iron intake any longer. For judging currently allow both -painted or plated

Quote from: KR500 on March 14, 2024, 05:18:05 PMQ.#3 The car has a cast iron T-10 and the the oil drain plug is a square drive with "MAGNETIC " on it.   Is this correct or a day 2 item?

Here is what I found on the majority  Approx 500's - 1450's

Haven't heard or seen a neutral safety switch that was connected to the transmission on a 67-70 Mustang Cougar or Shelby but with the FMX they were located on the shifter but would guess that someone hopefully altered things to make one work in a 68 with a C6

Looks like someone has looked at allot of magazine articles and online ones and borrowed from multiple sources (different plants and years) Reason for allot of the markings being incorrect or positioned differently than 67 San Jose. Yellow axle end, axle writing, big X .......... Painted front coil springs, bolt in cross member, backing plate finish .... will stop there

Did find it surprising that the black pinch weld overspray was not reproduced on the floor pans. 90% didn't end up on the pinch weld and hod to go somewhere  Happy to see the body color rear wheel wells 

Don't mean to be picking the effort and car apart just, as above, concerned that someone else will copy the practices and details from the video and in turn possibly creating some disappointment for that person later at some point.

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on March 04, 2024, 01:18:38 PM
Thanks and to be clear all added after paintwork on car? What type of sealer around the plugs? Jeff, I hate to admit this but have a hard time just finding pics like you just posted on the concours site. I did searches this morning then looked at all the unrestored Dearborn 67 and 68 cars without any luck.

Yes added after the car was painted. Looks to be a dark colored chalking likely very dark gray or black in the picture in the top left where there is not allot of dust and dirt on it in sections

Yes I believe you will find that all three plants used the same provider

Quote from: kram350 on March 01, 2024, 09:02:01 PM
Also, don't understand why Ford could not use fastback Mustangs in the early Trans Am series, as they were production four seaters?........

Weight?

Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 27, 2024, 07:01:33 AM
In the video you suggested, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTak2_MrgQs that car appears to have almost no under coating on the floors and wheel wells.

Just to help. Typically we refer to the thick tar and asbestos material that was applied after the car was delivered to the dealership as "undercoating"  and the stuff applied at the factor as "sound deadener" to keep them separate in discussions

Are you referring to sound deadener in the rear wheel wells or front. Ford applied it to the rear wheel wells before body color was applied over it and I doubt that missing this step would pass any of the hundreds of inspectors on the line. As far as sound deadener being applied to the floor area that depended on the model of Mustang and the options in most cases

Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 27, 2024, 07:01:33 AMAlso no seam sealer on the seat belt mounts. was it removed or is that typical of production?

Likely removed, cracked and fell off or cleaned away at some point

Quote from: 68stangcjfb on February 27, 2024, 07:01:33 AMIf you look at my second picture, the undercoating on this car spreads from just past the transmission tunnel to the rocker panels on both sides and in the wheel wells. When it was sprayed, it appears the worker was standing under where the right-side muffler sits as that seems the be the spray pattern direction.  It is also sprayed lightly in the tunnel above the transmission closer to the firewall where the firewall and floor pan come together. I don't think it was dealer applied because there is no way a dealer could have sprayed it there without removing the transmission.

Didn't watch the video but if there is spray on thee muffler then that is very likely and indication that someone on the line caught an issue and it was touched up or that is undercoating applied later. Mufflers as we understand it were installed after the factory floor sound deadener.   For above the transmission it was installed before thew sound deadener so the workers didn't want any on the transmission or linkage to screw operations later so typically the factory applications started to the sides and behind at the plant.

Not the typical location of the spray so likely undercoating. Easy to get to that area with the long wands used to apply the nasty stuff in the 70's

Though different year, same plant some of the information in the article below may be of help. Found it using the search and the words "69 undercarriage" and my screen name as author

https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=929.msg6979#msg6979

Quote from: TOBKOB on February 26, 2024, 09:01:07 PM
[quote Plain ones (without the snake) were sold through may speed shops and in catalogs like JC Whitney and Honest Charles
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Interesting but I doubt Hertz or Ford would replace one from those sources ( who knows) but probably from a Ford  dealer. My car went from Hertz back to Ford then I bought it so I wouldn't expect a third party part but who knows...
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Dealer might have had them as an impulse item hanging in the dealership/at parts counter. As mentioned we will never know just discussing the possibilities

Remember the 3rd member section bare steel/machined areas also while your at it 

Quote from: Krelboyne on February 26, 2024, 04:39:05 PM
I would imagine that they were available plain. There was a Cougar version for the 1970 Eliminator.

Plain ones (without the snake) were sold through may speed shops and in catalogs like JC Whitney and Honest Charles

In my collection I found the green floor color trend from 0F17xxxx into the later 180000's





For others with 70 Dearborn build Mustangs and Cougars here are a few pictures that represent the range of finishes typically found

Red oxide is not what one would expect to see on a 70 Dearborn built car. Will find plenty of them on "restored" cars since organizations like MCA allow your choice of undercarriage colors. Dearborn rarely used a red oxide base for the firewall rearward application. Rec oxide was used prior to 69 at San Jose and all of NJ production of the Mustang

The base used was mixed with the remains of earlier exterior paint barrels creating a fairly custom mix that could change even during a day or so. Often the color comes out to a dark gray with blue or green tint but with 70's enlarged exterior color choices the ranges swings allot more than in the prior years. Of course with the addition of body color over spray the look can differ even more. In q970 the same or similar color/paint was used at times fro the firewall forward application by hand also.

Would have to look through my files to see if I have something like your description

Quote from: 6s1640 on February 23, 2024, 10:47:28 PM
Your car 6S1227 is likely a San Jose February 1966 build, so  1-66 rad would be nice, but a 12-65 or 11-65 would also work nicely.  If all you need is to replace the top, watch for a Mustang six cylinder radiator with a date code that works for you.  This will be the most economic choice. These can be found at local swap meets or your favorite auction site.  It is the same top as the V8 radiator.  Then have the AMK radiator tag C4ZE-M2 soldered on to complete the transformation.  Patients will also be a factor.

+1 Cars built during the same time period as yours would have a Jan 66 date with the soldered on ID tag.

Quote from: 427heaven on February 23, 2024, 10:14:35 AM
Those were known as Brodie knobs..... In the 40s -50s according to my Vintage Dear ol Dad!

Or a "Necker Knob"  For one handed driving when the other hand is occupied - around your girlfriend