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2005 Ford GT white/blue (grey calipers) R.I.P.

Quote from: hurlbird on June 01, 2022, 09:35:41 PM
Other than my trunk lid, all of my fiberglass needs work. A crack here, chip there. If i consider repairs, stripping and prep for paint, i can't imagine any one panel being a quick cheap fix. I see reproduction fiber glass out there. A. is it as bad as most metal reproduction panels? B. if not and its quality am i better off with repaired originals or perfect reproductions from a value perspective? Thanks for the feedback.

Personally, I prefer to repair than to replace whenever possible. Today's reproduction pieces still need work to get them to fit properly. So then the question is, spend the money on the reproduction piece, then spend money getting it to fit properly, or do you spend the time and money on the original pieces that came from the factory? Your car, your hard earned funds, your choice in this case.

Bill

Quote from: silverton_ford on June 01, 2022, 12:29:51 PM
https://www.motortrend.com/features/missing-mustangs-an-afx-1967-shelby-gt-350-with-amnesia/?fbclid=IwAR3fzbXAjW_Ut9WVLNh_kGmDQAxxtyYzRcMd4BNaFdQ7c_T3JLweFda_EHE

Out of the whole article, I find the following quote to be interesting:

"Thomas is putting out an APB on the history of his Mustang. Due to the fact that the front apron has been removed for the straight axle, we're left with no Shelby VIN to confirm the car. Thomas brought in both Randy DeLisio and Dave Mathews, both 1967 Shelby historians, who confirmed the shell is in fact a 1967 Shelby, but which exact Shelby (of the 1,174 cars built) remains a mystery."

Bill

Quote from: Thomas on June 01, 2022, 07:30:34 AM
I've sat back and kept quiet for a couple years and listened to all of the conspiracy theories and bashing from so many, including some of you guys....

To the ones who helped me and we're supportive, I thank you very much. Every email and text helped me to get one step closer to solving the cars origin (1477).

Truth be told, When I first discovered this car and brought it home to Detroit from Chicago,, I found the transmission VIN stamp which was caked in grease & dirt. I immediately contacted Dave Mathews that day with as found car pictures and also with the VIN sequence (from the trans).

He knowingly mislead me as to the true identity of the transmission was. His words were that it was from a late '67 build and that it was from a Green GT350. Stated that all I had was a Old cut up Mustang.
Also, to add to his dishonesty, he fabricated a long story of how the green car had been stolen and recovered minus the driveline. He advised me that I'd be best for me  to remain silent about the car and the transmission because it could "open up a can of worms".

He warned me that I could be opening myself up to legality issues because of the stolen status of the transmission.....  I have all of the original emails and conversations to back up everything I've said for anyone wanting to doubt me.

Also, for the doubters... reread my original posts regarding the car, the date codes that I shared and also the additional part and panel stamps DO in fact match with the 1477 build dates. It's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you haven't seen the car in person. There have now been respected and knowledgeable Shelby experts who agree as to the cars true origin. (1477)

Had he been honest from the start, this could have been an amazing find for the SAAC group as I came here to you guys first for help. I laid every piece of data out there for you openly and honestly.
Unfortunately for myself, We sold the car at an exact break even amount and it quiet honestly wasn't much at all. Trust me. My cousin and myself wanted the car to go to someone who had the horsepower to take it to the next level, and hopefully someone with the ability to treat this car with the respect it deserves. I no longer own the car, so I have zero to gain by stating the facts. I'm not angry at Dave or the group, just extremely disappointed in how things were handled.

As owners and caretakers of such a rare brand, I feel that it's your duty & obligation to try and find the true history of existing and also missing units when they come to light. I know that the car was butchered, but had you taken the time to help, rather than bash my attempts, this could have been a completely different outcome.

So this post will most likely get taken down and deleted very soon because it states some facts that some will find offensive, but I'm posting the facts as they happened. I feel that the group deserves to hear how Dave handled this situation. I completely understand the concept of protecting the breed from fishing expeditions to match VIN's, but this was blatant. I now wish that I had posted the trans numbers from the start.

Thomas,

   While I am not taking sides other than to say the car is still in question, regardless of who "the shelby experts" are who saw the car, and are now hyping the car as one or another for their own personal gain. In addition, bold statements require cold, hard facts to back them up.

I wish you well, and will leave it at that.

Bill

Quote from: shelbydoug on May 29, 2022, 08:48:23 PM
Why draw everyones attention to it at all?

If you say it long enough on the web, and promote it to all of the journalistic parties, then it sooner or later becomes the truth. Worked for Shelby 


Bill

Quote from: shelbydoug on May 29, 2022, 08:22:22 AM
As a recent former member of that 67 Shelby Facebook group, I can tell you that the Administrator of it indicated to me that the "expert advisor" did look at the sheetmetal dates, compare them to the Ford build date, the Shelby build date and decided that the five week difference was "right in the ballpark for 1444".

He also indicated that the transmission IS original to the car.

He mentioned the intent to stir a debate about the subject, 1444, yet rejected the term of "taking sides" while admitting his non-agreement with mine and Dave's views. Then in a private memo, threatened that if I continued with my "snarky criticisms" he would remove access to the "members thread".

I saved him the effort.


It makes sense that there might be a remote association with TV program hosts here? Many actually think that they know something or can influence the public that they do and we should follow their line of thinking, even after their show is cancelled for poor ratings?

I personally don't adhere to the theory that I can prescribe horse de-worming medications for Covid treatments just because I played a doctor on a TV program?

No. I know better because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night.


Unfortunately Little Abner and Dogpatch itself hasn't got the electricity yet so they consult with the pigs who I am told are actually highly intelligent? I always thought Arnold Ziffell should run for office. At least the Senate? He probably could win in that state. There are already examples that are in office and have been re-elected several times.

It really shouldn't be that I am categorized as one of the "coastal intellectuals" that don't understand the real America. That really isn't true. I can get down in the mud and wrestle with the pigs too but that doesn't really seem to be the point, just the results.

Calling attention to that '67 Mustang seems counter productive to the owner? It just illustrates to an ever growing  group that the thing is basically a pariah and shows that anyone associated with it is as well or should be considered as one?

As with everything else in todays world, healthy debate is only allowed when it fits with a specific narrative. Question that narrative during the healthy debate, and that is when noses get bent out of shape, feathers get ruffled, and threats, idle or otherwise are produced, thus ending the healthy debate. I've had such negative experiences, as I too did not drink the Kool Aid being handed to me in the paper cup. Sad, but true.


Bill

Quote from: Coralsnake on May 27, 2022, 08:05:17 PMits still half a car.

While I am no expert, I am not convinced at this time of the claims being made.

I'll wait for more definitive proof, one way or the other, before further judgement.


Bill

Quote from: daltondavid on May 26, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
I am beaming with pride as my 24 year old son learned of this car 5 years ago and stayed on the original owner until he finally agreed to part with it today! full story to come! Yo Vinny Liska!

How did Dominic not grab this one  .....Nice going, look forward to hearing the story.


Bill

Quote from: curtw on May 25, 2022, 12:50:31 PM
I'm a newbie and still trying to learn how to navigate the forum. I hope this is the proper subforum for this post. I see other folks posts that have a thumbnail and car info. Is this stuff ported over from one's SAAC account as I can't figure out how to input this info from within my forum account? Thanks. Curt Wheeler

Curt,

   In your profile is a sub tab for "your profile" (IE: under account settings). While adding something poetic to your sig line is expected here, adding a thumbnail imagine of your car in each and every one of your posts is frowned upon as many members here work via WiFi and their cell phones or tablets.

Hope you find this helpful.

Bill

   Thanks again for putting this together, had a great time putting faces to names, and seeing some cars I had not since the early 80's. 


Bill

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on May 09, 2022, 10:08:04 AM

Quote from: Bill on May 09, 2022, 09:26:30 AM

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on May 09, 2022, 07:17:25 AM
Since we are talking tires and whats available does anyone have a site that lists all available out there? Use the main chains or tire rack they only show you a couple like T/As and Copper Cobras and maybe one or 2 others. Those sites didn't show all like Belle tire gives me 3 options and not all available. I'm looking to put 215-65-15s on the front on my 69 Mach1(68 and early 69 tire size of E-70-15s) and either 245/255-60-15s in the rear. I did that on my 68 Shelby(255s) and like the look. Gary

You'll like the eagle assurance, smooth, black, sidewall for the front, not certain about your requested rear tire size. Fills the wheel well quite nicely. Think there may be an earlier thread where I posted comparison pictures of the two.

Bill

I just actually did a Goodyear tire search on Goodyear's website for 235-60-15 and no matches came up. I actually pulled up a few Goodyear stores and no tires in 235/245/255-60-15s . Maybe they quit making them?

See my note and post above on the 215-65-15 and the size specs.

Quote from: shelbymann1970 on May 09, 2022, 07:17:25 AM
Since we are talking tires and whats available does anyone have a site that lists all available out there? Use the main chains or tire rack they only show you a couple like T/As and Copper Cobras and maybe one or 2 others. Those sites didn't show all like Belle tire gives me 3 options and not all available. I'm looking to put 215-65-15s on the front on my 69 Mach1(68 and early 69 tire size of E-70-15s) and either 245/255-60-15s in the rear. I did that on my 68 Shelby(255s) and like the look. Gary

You'll like the eagle assurance, smooth, black, sidewall for the front, not certain about your requested rear tire size. Fills the wheel well quite nicely. Think there may be an earlier thread where I posted comparison pictures of the two.

Bill

Quote from: Ldouble619 on May 07, 2022, 04:38:57 PM
What tire size and brand is everyone running for radial tires on stock 1969 Shelby rims?

Thanks

On my June 69 built 70 GT 350 convertible, for the street, I'm running 235/60/15 Cooper Cobras

On my old March 69 built 69 GT500 fastback (earliest big spindle car per Mongo), I ran Goodyear Assurance 215/65R15 as the 235/60/15 BFG's rubbed a little.


Spec wise, they were close enough for me
Original F60
Overall Diameter in inches-25.9
Section Width in inches-9.2

Goodyear Assurance 215/65R15
Overall Diameter in inches-26
Section Width in inches-8.5

Hope you find this helpful.

Bill

Quote from: Coralsnake on May 06, 2022, 06:32:08 AM
Just want you to know I stand behind any wiring I sell.

Pete,

   Every harness I've purchased from you for one of my cars has been top quality and I'm constantly pointing people to you for theirs.

Bill

Quote from: corbins on May 05, 2022, 09:39:16 PM

Rear lights getting power with the fuse block completely unplugged.

If memory serves me correctly, I believe that the AMP circuit is the only live feed that would bypass the fuse block. That would be the first thing I would be tracing at this point in time. Again, per my earlier post above, I do feel your frustrations.


Bill