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GT350HR,
Ruel's alive (at least as of today!)
He did close his shop on Maple & Primrose a couple of years ago though.

I have no bone to pick w SAAC and (except for the Registries) the creeping of time, technology, gentrification/ value of cars have pretty much minimized SAAC operationally.
The catastrophic loss of the forum really highlighted the value of the forum as an online technical/historical/automotive library of considerable energy. Even more granular, there was a small but extremely knowledgeable group who contributed so so much freely of quality information which benefited many owners, restorers, buyers, sellers and fans.  I believe the center of gravity had slowly shifted to the forum for our hobby.
Who was to know that it was essentially unattended, not backed up, and not even really SAAC?
If this forum cannot somehow be resuscitated our doom may be quicker than we think (it doesn't look like SAAC will be of any help).

-What left me aghast was that after this forum opened, there were postings which insulted long term members who really contributed so much usable research for many years. This chilled many who had done so much for all of us and really didn't owe anybody anything here.
-Pictures. What more can be said? Without the ability to readily post, exchange and enjoy pictures.......

The 'ownership', culture and usability now are not what the former forum was (or presumed to be). Who would have thunk that we were so rudderless and of such quality?

Thank for posting. An optional gear spread from a GM T-10 C-1 would require an interesting 'main drive', the .490 lift camshaft, a Don Sullivan profile (?) or perhap Jack Engle (??), seems low even for 'back in the day'. This carb was widely used on pre-65 FE's, seems it would be sluggish 'off the corners' for a 289 CID.
Love these old docs!

 
This is a wonderful contribution of so much personal effort and expertise.
It will help many and really enriches this forum.
Thank you Jeff.

 
http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inventory/current-inventory.aspx

description is pretty opaque, anybody familiar? price??

thanks

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisherAttachments/9990313265938/1969-10_HR_289_-_294_HP_fm_Sock_Parts_1-3.pdf

Bob Gaines> no offense intended. You are very generous to field so many questions which help many board participants.
Here, just enjoying a spirited discussion, so much of which was lost with what happened.
Still can't believe it.

still water can run deep....
IMHO this is a most impressive and outstanding 1965 GT-350. I wish the seller good luck.
This example, which has been raced and aptly represented the race-car bonafides of the 65s for many many years brings to light a lot of things which need to be refreshed - lest they be forgotten:
https://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/cardetail.php?reqcardir=SH-350GT-5S075;

-I agree 100% w the posting of "SFM5S000". This car could easily and cheaply be reconfigured to street trim. In concurrence, it would not necessarily be 'concours 1965'. But a concours 1965 GT 350 is a car w significant shortcomings and easily embarrassed by its' peers. This has all but been forgotten as 65 GT-350s have largely disappeared from common ownership and street/track usage;

-we have all been meaconed by the very real, although dissociated, auction/private-sale collectors laying down 500 (large) for a '65 to round out their collections. But what are they buying? Dare I say that many of these auction queens are masterfully restored old floozies reborn as new found virgins... (not necessarily a bad thing);

- I herein posit that the halcyon days for the 1965 GT-350s were in 1968-1980~ range when 65s, in various states of sensible modification, took the attack as club racers, autocrossers (remember?), open trackers, SCCA B prod, doorbangers, run-whatcha-brung, etc.

Although, yes, the R ran at Green Valley etc and, yes, Jerry Titus, Donahue etc al were truly outstanding, the vaunted reputation of the 1965 GT-350 as a serious performance car was demonstrated in 'club racing' 1968-1980.  These were great days for the 65 GT-350s, probably the most aggressive widespread usage, most wrenched by their (then) enthusiast owner-drivers. Secret: (lightweight) shhhh
A (then) 'set up' 65 GT-350 could indeed stick it to a '68 302 Camaro or B302, but it wasn't easy.  THAT is what this instant sale represents (warts and all). It is this where the 1965 GT-350 proved its' worth;
-most of the guys who aggressively raced and established the enduring reputation of the 65 GT-350s have passed and the naive 'market' now wants a 'hanger car' as a collection trophy. But hey? that's  where we're at I guess....can't argue w the money!
- BTW, these were all modded 'S' model 65s, as above, (by the mid 70s most R models were junk heaps subject to re-body). '427' is also correct about these period 'racer' cars not at the level of today's Cobra Automotive prepped cars- which are masterful. But the CA level cars are creations of the twenty-first century! There was NEVER anything of the sort when 65s established their enduring reputation.

Dare I say:
Why would anyone want a 3939S fuel pump? functionally worthless
or a stock fan? laughable
or a G2 radiator? first to be vaulted into the dumpster....
289 heads? run for your life
external balance? give up now

These things are all sacrosanct in our 'collector-pseudo concours world' now, and the mere mention is unspeakable, with the inference that this degrades the car. wow.
It is in these areas  that a car such as 5S075, can so accurately portray a 1965 GT-350, and the real history of the 1965 GT-350s at their best, but I agree that is not the 'market' today. By gosh there may even be a chance that a car such as this may not have the 'correct' date coded wind-wing!
Back to lurking.

Steve
SFM5S339