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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2021, 09:02:23 AM »
R-Shelbys in Europe:
5R539 was sent directly to Claude, not via FAV, it was owned by Ford Belgium, Antwerp and just driven by Claude (as he confirmed himself), it had a red on white 43.S.10 licence plate with several holes, the number/letter combination indicates that it was a plate used until 1962.
5R209 was obviously sent to Bruxelles autoshow from FAV (the picture was taken at the show by Emil Sterckx, a former and current dutch Mustang racer), the contract orgainzed between Ford France and Martial Delalande/J.P. Hanrioud (with swiss geneve licence plates), before being used by the Ecurie Filipinetti/Peter Schetty. Acc. to some earlier report Ford France had a problem to licence these racing cars and used sometimes belgium or other countries licence plates, if possible.
5R107 was given to Ford Germany/Jochen Neerpasch, later appeared with the PKX207D (1966 plates) english licence plates for a period, so most probably still in ownership of FAV.
5R097 - very few early pics around, sold from FAV to Ecurie Filipinetti appeared only with swiss Geneve licence plates.
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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2021, 10:40:16 AM »
Great thread ! thanks Rich for starting it !

Here's a scan of the contract (entry) for 5R209 for the Rally Neige et Glace, on Feb. 19-20th 1966 that shows the license plate

 registered for the car, I can't quite make it out ?

Sorry for diverting the thread concerning 003   ::)

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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2021, 11:34:07 AM »
5r209 appears to be the only R model in Europe to ever wear a SAI MFG tag. (per many photos of all the exported 'R' models)
The 2011 registry does not mention any Shelby American sponsored competition 'R' models running overseas.

It doesn't make sense that SAI would send a license plate over for an auto show unless planned for other purposes.
With TransAmEd mentioning registration difficulties in France, the '2H' MFG license plate must have been on loan to Ford of France.
We can see the MFG plate was used for at least 2 events in February 1966, possibly others after that.
(I'll update the list)

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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2021, 01:58:12 PM »
At the same Bruxelles Autoshow as 5R209 - CSX2299 with 1X  MFG 013, January 1966.
By best knowledge CSX2601 and CSX2299 differ with their rear lights arrangement, so this should be CSX2299.


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« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2021, 02:02:17 PM »
Dante Duce, Cobra CSX ? 1964 Brighton Speed Trials, is that one of the ex Targa cars ?

(photo: Autocar)  from Profile Publications #60 The A.C. Cobra booklet

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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2021, 09:59:37 AM »
That's CSX 2345 that Duce was driving.

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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2021, 12:33:15 PM »
At the same Bruxelles Autoshow as 5R209 - CSX2299 with 1X  MFG 013, January 1966.
By best knowledge CSX2601 and CSX2299 differ with their rear lights arrangement, so this should be CSX2299.


Very nice COLOR photo TAEd!!
I agree that is the Daytona csx2299. It is slightly different in the back end details.!
Thanks for posting
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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2021, 12:37:59 PM »
Dante Duce, Cobra CSX ? 1964 Brighton Speed Trials, is that one of the ex Targa cars ?

(photo: Autocar)  from Profile Publications #60 The A.C. Cobra booklet

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Nice find Mike!
With Cobra Ned suggesting that is csx2345...
then the odds are that other photo of it getting loaded on the TWA cargo plane is the same Cobra.
Cool!
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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2021, 04:30:42 PM »
Hello all,

do you remember that i write that from some Pics i would really love to know the
License Plate Numbers ???

i decided to do complete research on all my databases and find new material that
helps us here ...

Please share your thoughts, do you think we have some match here ???

First there is this famous known Pic from the Lady on LAX in a GT350

i found a very high resolution PDF from that Pic and when i sized it to 600%  ;D
and looked an hour or so on it, i think this is 1S MFG 013
to proofed that a little bit more i do also compared it with the known "Pete Brock Appartment
Pic from 1S MFG 013"
(the upper pic on the right sight)



the other Pic is from 5007 at the 10.000 Mile Test, i found a colored Pic in a Book in
good resolution and size, when i looked long enough with a magnifying glass i read
2L MFG 013 (which would also be a knew Plate Number)





Greets from Germany

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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #69 on: June 14, 2021, 08:21:59 PM »
Stephan,
Looking at the first photo of the '65 GT350 at LAX in front of the blast wall (with the brunette sitting in it)...
I was not certain it was '1S', the same car as the other photo in front of the apartment building with Pete Brock on the 2nd floor balcony.
However, after looking at the front fender painted on stripes and the position of the 'G.T. 350' letters compared to the stripes location,
I think you are correct, and it is the same car.

I'm still on the fence on the lower photo / '65 GT350 with a '2L' on that license plate.
I can see a few specs of yellow paint that suggest it could be '2L', but it is so poorly lit and out of focus, I just don't know.
 
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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2021, 09:35:11 PM »
 I didn't see this listed, sorry if it's been caught !

65 Reims door #14, CSX2287, 1E MFG 013

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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2021, 09:54:07 PM »
These are listed, but catching 2 in the same photo, had to post

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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2021, 10:21:17 PM »
I didn't see this listed, sorry if it's been caught !

65 Reims door #14, CSX2287, 1E MFG 013

jim p

Thanks Jim,
I will be sure to add this Daytona /event to the list
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Re: Shelby American ‘MFG 013’ license plates
« Reply #73 on: June 16, 2021, 06:58:59 PM »
A 1964 Le Mans puzzle.

Two cars with the same '1E MFG 013' license plate!
My first thought was one photo was taken prior to race day (#5) and the other was on race day (#6)

BUT...

One photo (#6) shows the 1964 California registration sticker and the other photo (#5) has no registration sticker.

?


Edit; Updated list in first post with new information and more cars added
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« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2021, 11:40:34 AM »
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