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oldcanuck

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Clutch Pedal Support ?
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:22:55 AM »

I was advised yesterday that 1966 and 1967 clutch support brackets have a 100% mortality rate. This old Ford mechanic said its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. He went on to say if your clutch pedal does not return all the way up and stops about an inch short, its not your return assist spring, its the support bracket. "They all fail".

Can someone enlighten me on this ?   Is this fact or myth.......?

Thanks,
BG
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Re: Clutch Pedal Support ?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
Bob, I am no expert, but many cars I have had had that issue. My Boss has always done that. a 67 GT350 I owned did that. As a few other cars over the years has. Not sure its an issue, I am sure we will be able to "read below" and perhaps be enlightened.

The only real problem for me was back in the 80's I had a Boss 302 that would bend the adjusting rod under the car and I would have to get under it and replace it from time to time, it got where I had one in the unsigned glove box at all times. In fact, I think I got one in my tool box now, I may have moved it somewhere of late! Like magic, that car stopped bending them????
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2021, 10:42:36 AM »

I was advised yesterday that 1966 and 1967 clutch support brackets have a 100% mortality rate. This old Ford mechanic said its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. He went on to say if your clutch pedal does not return all the way up and stops about an inch short, its not your return assist spring, its the support bracket. "They all fail".

Can someone enlighten me on this ?   Is this fact or myth.......?

Thanks,
BG
Probably referring to the bushings made into the bracket wearing out on a manual trans car.The bushings are permanently attached to the bracket.  Brackets from Automatic cars with unused manual bushing attachment points are used as donors if a original look is preferred . Some companies make alternative roller bearing repair parts if a after market repair is desired. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2021, 12:28:08 PM »
Fact. Both my 1968 and 1969 had the bushings fail, and the holes elongate, resulting in strange clutch pedal motion.

Replaced it on my 1968  many, many years ago, and modified the '69 to use roller bearings on the clutch, gave it a very smooth action. Hidden upgrade well worth the work.

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2021, 12:58:31 PM »
Fact. Both my 1968 and 1969 had the bushings fail, and the holes elongate, resulting in strange clutch pedal motion.

Replaced it on my 1968  many, many years ago, and modified the '69 to use roller bearings on the clutch, gave it a very smooth action. Hidden upgrade well worth the work.

Is that repair sold in a kit form? Is there a place to order them from?
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2021, 01:18:11 PM »
Fact. Both my 1968 and 1969 had the bushings fail, and the holes elongate, resulting in strange clutch pedal motion.

Replaced it on my 1968  many, many years ago, and modified the '69 to use roller bearings on the clutch, gave it a very smooth action. Hidden upgrade well worth the work.

Is that repair sold in a kit form? Is there a place to order them from?

+1   Anybody know of this, and where to source ?

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2021, 01:22:33 PM »


https://www.drakeautomotivegroup.com/master-roller-bearing-repair-c5zz-2478-rbmk

And while you are at it, order two, try to retro-fit the Z-Bar bushings as well, as that is another wear/abrasion area.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2021, 03:22:43 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2021, 03:51:04 PM »
... did this on the car I had, if you don't need it to be concours it's worth doing. 

Also replace all the related bushings on the associated parts. 

If I remember right, there is a "rubber" pad/bumper stop that gets lost over the years, that the released pedal stops/hits/rests against.  Stops it from making metal to metal contact when the clutch pedal is released.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2021, 05:44:11 PM »
If you intend to drive your Mustang, then the roller bearing clutch bracket upgrade is a must! One of the best upgrades for the money.

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2021, 07:39:29 PM »
Just asking but, ScottyD stuff is not of good quality usually. What is that made of? I only ask because I am afraid that for all the work, it should be very hard steel. If it is China made it actually might fail. This is a "Just sayin" / "Just asking" We all know that the metal from China is really useless including stainless.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2021, 08:10:49 PM »
Totally agree. It cuts the clutch pedal effort in half on a 428 GT500. Amazing difference, big improvement.

I got a kit from Mustang Steve once, twice have got the Drake kit. All pretty much the same.


If you intend to drive your Mustang, then the roller bearing clutch bracket upgrade is a must! One of the best upgrades for the money.

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2021, 08:19:46 PM »
Totally agree. It cuts the clutch pedal effort in half on a 428 GT500. Amazing difference, big improvement.

I got a kit from Mustang Steve once, twice have got the Drake kit. All pretty much the same.


If you intend to drive your Mustang, then the roller bearing clutch bracket upgrade is a must! One of the best upgrades for the money.

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So it is a good quality kit?
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2021, 09:58:06 PM »
Yes both kits were very nice. Generally I am not a big fan of Scott Drake but these kits were nice.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2021, 10:19:10 PM »
Just asking but, ScottyD stuff is not of good quality usually. What is that made of? I only ask because I am afraid that for all the work, it should be very hard steel. If it is China made it actually might fail. This is a "Just sayin" / "Just asking" We all know that the metal from China is really useless including stainless.
I'm always skeptical of Drake stuff too but did use these. The bearings from what I can tell are put together well. The only issue I recall was the groove for the c-clip sat maybe .001 - .002 too low when the bearing was installed in the support. Nothing that 5 minutes with a file on the support couldn't solve. It's also not a bad idea to throw the plastic bushings for the Z-bar in the trash and use bronze instead