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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2021, 08:50:56 AM »
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Yeah, weird that ford placed a factory check box for air in a 1955 pass car, but yet did not offer it in the bird.
Yeah, the 58 square bird was offered with that check box for a/c/.
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2021, 09:06:44 AM »
I'm thinking that A/C was just not a popular thing until the late '60s? There wasn't much motivation for Ford to integrate it until demand got to a certain point.
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2021, 07:08:43 PM »
I'm thinking that A/C was just not a popular thing until the late '60s? There wasn't much motivation for Ford to integrate it until demand got to a certain point.

Depended on the Ford model and the price (sale) price it appears
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2021, 08:39:40 PM »
Both air units I refereed to in the 65 Shelby's  were after market. The name ARA comes to mind?
An under dash unit like Ford put in 1964 full size cars is what a 65 mustang would have come with via a factory order.
Seem to recall the chrome face with ford logo changed a bit for 1966 model year mustangs ?

Bit of trivia;
sent a 1955 factory ford installed a/c system to Australia years ago. Ford Select Air as I recall was the name on the round heater/ac control panel.
 As far as ford cars go, I think 1965 was the first year for in dash Ford a/c. 99%
Not sure about Lincoln or Mercury though.
crazy I remember all that, but not what I ate for dinner on Thursday, go figure.
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My '62 T-Bird had factory in-dash A/C.  The '61 'birds did too. 

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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2021, 09:35:52 AM »
Side oiler,
From 1958 on, all birds had a/c. May have been called std equip then. I have never witnessed a bird without?
I think ??? that it was Lincoln around 52ish ? that had factory air.
They were easy to spot, as they had these  awful looking huge R-L clear ducts in the back window.

My grandfather bought a 1964 Ford that was loaded. The a/c was under dash factory. >>> same looking ford unit was later used for 65-66 mustang to my best knowledge.
1967 appears to be the 1st Mustang with factory air?
That brings to mind, was there a check box for under dash optional air in 1965-1966 Mustang ?

I think that 1965 was the first year for true in dash a/c for most Ford brands?
My aunt purchased a new 1964 Mercury with the electric roll down back window. I have tried to visualize the car for a/c, as I am sure if she could have ordered it, she would have.
Granted, as all through auto history, I believe that Ford Lincoln or Mercury had special concepts made that factory exec's drove with A/C.

I truly am not sure of what manufacturer in the world, first had a/c in a car?
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John


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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2021, 03:01:42 PM »
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1967 appears to be the 1st Mustang with factory air?
That brings to mind, was there a check box for under dash optional air in 1965-1966 Mustang ?

That would be "1st Mustang with indash factory air"

If your referring to the forms used in ordering a 65-66 car rather than a handwritten description that used with the possible new owner then yes there was a spot on the form/car to indicate that. These forms were shared by all of the Ford passenger car lline
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2021, 08:19:27 AM »
Jeff,
Correct, it was the first in dash air offered, my error in detail.
All gets complicated as no consistency played out.

I am now left wondering which manufacturer in the world offered a/c first ?
Respectfully,
John




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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2021, 09:44:05 AM »
Jeff,
Correct, it was the first in dash air offered, my error in detail.
All gets complicated as no consistency played out.

I am now left wondering which manufacturer in the world offered a/c first ?
Respectfully,
John

Didn't that happen in the '30s with Chrysler?
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2021, 09:53:57 AM »
Jeff,
Correct, it was the first in dash air offered, my error in detail.
All gets complicated as no consistency played out.

I am now left wondering which manufacturer in the world offered a/c first ?
Respectfully,
John

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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2021, 10:10:55 AM »
Jeff,
Correct, it was the first in dash air offered, my error in detail.
All gets complicated as no consistency played out.

I am now left wondering which manufacturer in the world offered a/c first ?
Respectfully,
John

Packard!

What year and model? Was it a fan blowing on chunks of ice in the "ice box"?  :o
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2021, 04:30:15 PM »
Jeff,
Correct, it was the first in dash air offered, my error in detail.
All gets complicated as no consistency played out.

I am now left wondering which manufacturer in the world offered a/c first ?
Respectfully,
John

Packard!

What year and model? Was it a fan blowing on chunks of ice in the "ice box"?  :o

Offered as an option in 1939 for the 1940 modell.

https://carfromjapan.com/article/industry-knowledge/first-cars-with-air-conditioning/

https://thenewswheel.com/when-did-cars-first-get-air-conditioning/




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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2021, 06:00:55 PM »
The one article mentions Kelvinator.
I guess Packard took the components from that companies refrigerator and made the car system?
Makes sense anyway?
Seems that home refrigerators were introduced in the 30's also ?
The 1930's saw record innovations, even AM radio for cars.
Shelbydoug:
funny you mention chunks of ice.
There was a swamp cooler type round cooler that hung from the side window. They did put ice in it and wind force blew the colled air into the car from the outside
Bonus point for that Doug >>>
WOW, we sure have come a long way in our lifetimes.

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Size of an ac cobra, but built in 1935 !
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2021, 06:22:54 PM »
Shelbydoug:
funny you mention chunks of ice.
There was a swamp cooler type round cooler that hung from the side window. They did put ice in it and wind force blew the colled air into the car from the outside
Bonus point for that Doug >>>
WOW, we sure have come a long way in our lifetimes.
My dad bought one of those for our '58 Country Sedan Wagon for our long trips across the country hen the Army gave him a new assignment.  I don't remember that it worked very well.
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2021, 06:59:52 PM »
The one article mentions Kelvinator.
I guess Packard took the components from that companies refrigerator and made the car system?
Makes sense anyway?
Seems that home refrigerators were introduced in the 30's also ?
The 1930's saw record innovations, even AM radio for cars.
Shelbydoug:
funny you mention chunks of ice.
There was a swamp cooler type round cooler that hung from the side window. They did put ice in it and wind force blew the colled air into the car from the outside
Bonus point for that Doug >>>
WOW, we sure have come a long way in our lifetimes.

Mr. grandmother had a 5 story walk up cold water flat. I remember being dropped off for her to babysit me when we had 1/2 day kindergartens.

She had an icebox that apparently was on the way out because I do remember the refrigerator there.

The old wood burning stove on the stone hearth in the kitchen that was replaced with a gas stove that you had to light with a match.

The creme de la resistance was the "junkie" who would come around in a horse drawn cart.

Seems like another persons dreams now.
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Re: Factory AC in a 66 H?
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2021, 01:20:15 PM »
Regarding a 65/66 Mustang, I would suggest the only way to document factory A/c is a production marking.

I found this when wiping the core support with detergent, my interpretation is A/C production option during build?

I solicit others with more knowledge to chime in??

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