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Brunk "Continuation" Shelbys
« on: February 08, 2022, 01:22:02 PM »
Did they use any used parts in building these vehicles?

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2022, 01:58:43 PM »
Yes, the unibody.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2022, 02:03:23 PM »
How about transmissions, hoods, etc.?

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2022, 02:32:19 PM »
They were required by the "rules" to use something like 90% new parts for them to qualify as "new" cars built by Shelby American. That did not happen new parts were just not available to make 12 cars. CS said he had the 12 new HiPo engines (probably in the TX warehouse next to the 50 Cobra chassis). They probably used rebuilt trans and rearends. All the truly new parts were the cheapest Mustang repop parts available at the time. They changed a lot of sheetmetal since they bought the cheapest cars available to start with. They were poorly cobbled together and not very good. I knew a guy who was working at Shelby at the time and it took him about 2 weeks per car just to sort out the wrong things and get them reliable. That was just on the 4 CS got. I can only imagine how bad the actual customer cars were. I never heard the final cost breakdown but they went into the deal with 4 cars for CS, 4 for Brunk and 4 to sell and cover the cost of all 12. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2022, 03:47:43 PM »
I find this brunkrageous !

They were required by the "rules" to use something like 90% new parts for them to qualify as "new" cars built by Shelby American. That did not happen new parts were just not available to make 12 cars. CS said he had the 12 new HiPo engines (probably in the TX warehouse next to the 50 Cobra chassis). They probably used rebuilt trans and rearends. All the truly new parts were the cheapest Mustang repop parts available at the time. They changed a lot of sheetmetal since they bought the cheapest cars available to start with. They were poorly cobbled together and not very good. I knew a guy who was working at Shelby at the time and it took him about 2 weeks per car just to sort out the wrong things and get them reliable. That was just on the 4 CS got. I can only imagine how bad the actual customer cars were. I never heard the final cost breakdown but they went into the deal with 4 cars for CS, 4 for Brunk and 4 to sell and cover the cost of all 12.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2022, 03:52:11 PM »
Yes, the unibody.
And engines ,rear end housings ,center sections ,upper control arms (some car),strut rods,etc. etc. etc.  In my estimation after owning and inspecting numerous continuation converts there is no way 90% of the cars parts of the the ones that were completed  by Beverly Hills were new. It must be a case where this "rule" was not enforced. Shiny paint ,new tires and chrome probably looks to the un informed that everything else is new too. At least that is the most logical reason to me.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2022, 04:14:43 PM »
When were these cars built?

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2022, 04:26:11 PM »
Each car had typically a document with it showing which item was N.O.S, new, restored or replaced. Probably not kept from many owners...

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2022, 04:51:43 PM »
If the myth is Shelby had a dozen HiPo motors in a warehouse, why does the build sheet note the .030 overbore and all the aftermarket engine parts?  Find it hard to believe he was storing used engines for close to 20 years.

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Re: Brunk "Continuation" Shelbys
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2022, 05:12:19 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2022, 05:54:11 PM »
Each car had typically a document with it showing which item was N.O.S, new, restored or replaced. Probably not kept from many owners...

I am skeptical that the document is totally accurate ether what with the 31 spine axles instead of the typical 28 listed on the list. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2022, 05:57:30 PM »
We had one of those cars in our shop about 1983..was puffing smoke badly....had to send the heads to be redone... also replaced leaking head gaskets,  motor was .030 over, noticed on the interior the the steering wheel  center cap (GT 350) had been rechromed..problem was that it was actually a mustang GT center cap that had the lettering starting to show thru the chrome...no wonder they called him....Jay "BUNK".... :o
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2022, 06:50:26 PM »
If the myth is Shelby had a dozen HiPo motors in a warehouse, why does the build sheet note the .030 overbore and all the aftermarket engine parts?  Find it hard to believe he was storing used engines for close to 20 years.
Which is why I added "next to the 50 Cobra chassis" comment. The original photo when the deal was announced showed CS & Brunk standing next to a new motor in a crate.
There were a couple members of COCOA who idolized Brunk. We got glowing reports each meeting on the cars. They realized they were backing the wrong horse when Brunk screwed them working on their own car.
I got a call after Brunk had gone blind and shut down the business. A guy was looking to sue him for restoration work. His replacing the floor pans amounted to gluing down the carpet and putting a heavy coat of undercoating in the bottom.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2022, 07:59:58 PM »
I find this brunkrageous !

They were required by the "rules" to use something like 90% new parts for them to qualify as "new" cars built by Shelby American. That did not happen new parts were just not available to make 12 cars. CS said he had the 12 new HiPo engines (probably in the TX warehouse next to the 50 Cobra chassis). They probably used rebuilt trans and rearends. All the truly new parts were the cheapest Mustang repop parts available at the time. They changed a lot of sheetmetal since they bought the cheapest cars available to start with. They were poorly cobbled together and not very good. I knew a guy who was working at Shelby at the time and it took him about 2 weeks per car just to sort out the wrong things and get them reliable. That was just on the 4 CS got. I can only imagine how bad the actual customer cars were. I never heard the final cost breakdown but they went into the deal with 4 cars for CS, 4 for Brunk and 4 to sell and cover the cost of all 12.
.       Sounds like a bunch of brunk  to me!!! ;)

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2022, 10:39:54 PM »
It always sounded like a bad deal to me from the get go.  And I was disappointed to find out that SAAC was reserving spots for them in the registry.  I certainly don't view those cars as worthy of being included in the registry due to a variety of reasons.  Just my opinion, yours may differ from mine.
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