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The most original in the universe?

Started by TJinSA, June 12, 2022, 07:13:16 AM

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TJinSA

https://aglomerado.digital/en/web-stories/shelby-gt500-king-of-the-road-1968-and-the-most-original-in-the-universe/
A mighty bold claim by Barrett-Jackson, and anytime something claimed remotely similiar, my senses first reaction is to claim BS. I see lots of white cad bolts under the hood which I'd think "maybe not", but '68s are not my forte'.
Tom Kubler
6S296

Coralsnake

#1
I'm very confused. What is "most original" ? Another uninformed writer claim? Perhaps something lost in translation...

It doesn't appear to be a claim Barrett Jackson made.

Regardless, there is a ways to go before that car is "correct" as it left the factory.

It's pretty and it's shiny, so I am confident it will do well at the auction. That seems to be what uninformed buyers gravitate toward.

It would not even be a SAAC Gold car if it were shown!

The cad bolts are fine in 1968, but there's a couple dozen other things that are not quite right.

;)


Side-Oilers

Where's the rear fender side-markers? 
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs. Top Speed Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra 427.  482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Previous:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

deathsled

"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

TJinSA

Quote from: Side-Oilers on June 12, 2022, 01:07:29 PM
Where's the rear fender side-markers?

Lost in the "refreshing the original metal"?
Tom Kubler
6S296

Coralsnake

Lost when the quarter panel was replaced.  :-\

crossboss

Possibly a lawsuit for fraud as I see it. Buyer beware.
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

Coralsnake


crossboss

#8
Quote from: Coralsnake on June 12, 2022, 07:35:29 PM
What is fraudulent?



Claiming it's the "most original in the universe". As noted from the members, its not. You even mentioned the quarter panel replacement, and It would not even be a SAAC Gold car if it were shown!

The cad bolts are fine in 1968, but there's a couple dozen other things that are not quite right.
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

Coralsnake

#9
Thats something some writer wrote. Its not a claim Barrett Jackson auctions made, there is nothing fraudulent about a writer's sensationalized opinion.

If I say someone else has the best car I have ever seen, there is no fraud. I may just be an  ignorant foolish person, if you could sue stupid people for dumb comments...

crossboss

Quote from: Coralsnake on June 13, 2022, 05:25:20 AM
Thats something some writer wrote. Its not a claim Barrett Jackson auctions made, there is nothing fraudulent about a writer's sensationalized opinion.

If I say someone else has the best car I have ever seen, there is no fraud. I may just be an  ignorant foolish person, if you could sue stupid people for dumb comments...



Well on dumb comments, I agree with you. However, when selling (car, home, motorcycle, etc) and making a 'claim' that is not true, is fraud. Its obvious this 1968 KR is not 'original'. I'm sure you would agree with that.
Past owned Shelby's:
1968 GT-350--Gold
1970 GT-500--#3129--Grabber Orange.
Current lifelong projects:
1969 Mustang Fastback/FOX chassis, 5 speed, 4 wheel discs, with a modern Can-Am 494 (Boss 429), Kaase heads, intake with a 1425 cfm 'B' Autolite Inline carb, ala Trans-Am style
1968/70 Olds 442 W-30

deathsled

Rear quarters on a 68 either NOS or otherwise have no cutout for the marker lights?  It would seem so given the photo.  I genuinely don't know, hence the question.
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

Coralsnake

#12
The odds of finding a NOS fastback quarter are virtually nil. I have seen three in the last 40 years. They would have the correct holes and/or impressions.

Reproductions come in various degrees of quality. As does quality of workmanship by restorers. In this case drilling four small holes was not possible.

deathsled

"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"